Skip to comments.FBI director outraged by Lockerbie bomber release (Obama on release: "highly objectionable"
Posted on 08/22/2009 12:35:19 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet
"Your action," he wrote MacAskill, "makes a mockery of the grief of the families who lost their own on December 21, 1988. You could not have spent much time with the families, certainly not as much time as others involved in the investigation and prosecution."
He ended the Lockerbie letter with a frustrated question: "Where, I ask, is the justice?"
President Barack Obama on Friday called the elaborate homecoming in Libya for the freed bomber "highly objectionable."
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We should have had a stealth bomber flying over the spot of his homecoming and dropped a 2,000 lbs bomb on the whole crowd.
Wave up America. Pres_ _ent Obama did not say the
release was objectionable. It was the reception.
Should it have been in the Oval Office?
This is UN style justice. The trial should have been held in the USA, and the POS should have been imprisoned here.
Jurisdiction was in Scotland for the trial because the flight crashed there.
We should have objected and had the trial in the USA.
BTW, there is no death penalty in Scotland.
While the outrage is understandable, prior to the release it was common knowledge in UK that a pending appeal would quite likely show that the prisoner was framed by the British government.
Avoiding this embarassment may have been one reason for the release.
Funny how all this “outrage” is being vented after the fact. I’m sure the Brits coordinated this with us and got the green light behind the scenes. Gotta do Muslim outreach, y’know.
“Our country has lost its way.”
As much as I dislike 0, what would you have liked for him to do? He certainly is not going to pick a fight with another Muslim country.
Do you think that Bush would have reacted otherwise? Hell, he is the one who used the phrase, “Religion of Peace” during a “State of the Union” address. There are still millions of Americans who take that statement for granted.
The trial should have been held in the USA, and the POS should have been imprisoned here.
Jurisdiction was in Scotland for the trial because the flight crashed there.
We should have objected and had the trial in the USA.
“what would you have liked for him to do?”
1. State he is “utterly outraged” in lieu of “highly objectionable.”...for starts. Maybe throw in he “strongly condemns this horrific display of appreciation of a convicted mass murderer by a sitting head of state”..might be nice.
2. Recall ambassador
3. Invite families to DC to discuss his “highly objectionable” views rather than an out-of-control buddy of his for a beer, for absolutely no value at all.
Sounds like a start. What say you?
Excuse me, but it’s just not possible to “frame” the head of Libya’s secret police.
0bama may say it’s objectionable... he may write in in an email... but I am betting he was in a quiet conversation and agreed to it, warning Brown that he’d have to publicly denounce it.
you mean you think there is ‘more to follow?’
and he would have been in GITMO and possibly released months ago.
Not to mention the little fact that Libya confessed complicity in the attack, and paid one and a half billion dollars in compensation to the victims’ families.
Where is it? Is this it?
No doubt true.
I’ve been unable to find anything referring to him as such. He was Head of Security for the Libyan airline, and also pretty obviously a secret agent. But I doubt he was head of the secret police.
Everyone was in on it. All this after the fact posturing is pure unadulterated bull droppings.
Details, details. The Scots needed to sell more shortbread cookies. Screw the rule of the law and those pesky, greedy families.
We should be making that argument if it ever, God forbid, happens again.And this result of early release is a good reason why a court might actually accept the argument.
Maybe a sniper from a mile away is now the answer.
elaborate,...especially from our side of the pond.
This morning on CNN Tony Blair was peddling as far away from Gordon Brown as his legs would get him.
Gaddafi should be dead, but is alive to continually praise Obama.
dba Obama wants to release Gitmoese to CONUS, gives 900M to Hamas, gives cover to Ahmadinejad who murders 700 and builds his Holocaust-2 bomb.
dba Obama: "I will stand with them"
dba Obama: "Happy Ramadan!"
Mueller. Mueller. Mueller.
You are "outraged" at the wrong person.
BOYCOTT SCOTCH, BUY BOURBON
Passengers and crew
Dr Eckert told Scottish police that distinctive marks on Captain MacQuarrie’s thumb suggested he had been hanging onto the yoke of the plane as it descended, and may have been alive when the plane crashed. The captain, first officer, flight engineer, a flight attendant, and a number of first-class passengers were found still strapped to their seats inside the nose section when it crashed in a field by a tiny church in the village of Tundergarth. The inquest heard that the flight attendant was alive when found by a farmer’s wife, but died before her rescuer could summon help.[page needed]
Prominent among the passenger victims was the 50-year-old UN Commissioner for Namibia, Bernt Carlsson, who would have attended the signing ceremony at UN headquarters on 22 December 1988 of the New York Accords.
Paul Avron Jeffreys, former bass player with the UK group Cockney Rebel, was on the flight with his new wife Rachel, en route to their honeymoon celebration.
Another victim was poet Joanna Walton, main lyricist of Robert Fripp’s 1979 Exposure album.
Jonathan White, aged 33, the son of actor David White (who played Larry Tate on Bewitched), was also killed. He had recently graduated from UCLA.
 Students and families
Thirty-five students from Syracuse University, four from Colgate University, four from Brown University, two from Seton Hill University, and two from the State University of New York at Oswego were on board, flying home from overseas study in London. There was also one student from Hampshire College flying home from a field study in Nigeria. Ten of the victims were residents of Long Islandincluding father and son, John and Sean Mulroyand were returning home for seasonal celebrations with families and friends, as reported by Newsday of 27 December 1988. Five members of the Dixit-Rattan family, including 3-year-old Suruchi Rattan, were flying to Detroit from New Delhi. They were supposed to be on Pan Am Flight 67, which had left Frankfurt for New York earlier in the day, but one of the children had fallen ill with breathing difficulties, and the pilot had taken the plane back to the gate to allow the family to disembark. The boy soon recovered, and the family was transferred to PA103 instead. Suruchi was wearing a bright red kurta and salwara knee-length tunic and matching trousersfor her journey. She became associated with a note left with flowers outside Lockerbie town hall that said “To the little girl in the red dress who lies here who made my flight from Frankfurt such fun. You didn’t deserve this. God Bless, Chas.”
U.S. intelligence officers
There were at least four U.S. intelligence officers on the passenger list, with rumours, never confirmed, of a fifth onboard. The presence of these men on the flight later gave rise to a number of conspiracy theories, in which one or more of them were said to have been targeted.
Matthew Gannon, the CIA’s deputy station chief in Beirut, Lebanon, was sitting in Clipper Class, Pan Am’s version of business class, seat 14J. Major Chuck “Tiny” McKee, an army officer on secondment to the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) in Beirut, sat behind Gannon in the center aisle in seat 15F. Two Diplomatic Security Service special agents, acting as bodyguards to Gannon and McKee, were sitting in economy: Ronald Lariviere, a security officer from the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, was in 20H, and Daniel O’Connor, a security officer from the U.S. Embassy in Nicosia, Cyprus, sat five rows behind Lariviere in 25H, both men seated over the right wing. The four men had flown together out of Cyprus that morning. There was also a Department of Justice Special Agent on the flight, Assistant Deputy Director Michael S. Bernstein.
Also on board, in seat 53K at the back of the plane, was 21-year-old Khalid Nazir Jaafar, who had moved from Lebanon to Detroit with his family, where his father ran a successful auto-repair business. Because of his Lebanese background, and because he was returning from having visited relatives there, Jaafar’s name later figured prominently in the investigation into the bombing, as well as in one of the conspiracy theories concerning the Lockerbie bombing.
Real people. Real death. Real pain. Unreal result.
Next he will be deeply concerned and after that let him be clear here
or,...the infamous “Look here....”
Well the USA could have insisted on jurisdiction based on the fact that it was an American Airline. And it might have worked, but as you say, jurisdiction is usually decided on the situs of the case....
Notice Obama called the big celebration “highly objectionable,” and not the release itself. Even the phrase “highly objectionable” is not a condemnation. It simply means that he felt that the celebration exceeded the bounds of good Marxist Muslim propaganda.
I’m sure he had to approve this before the Brits did it. People are blaming the Scottish Nationalist Party, but Khadaffi thanked Brown and Queen Elizabeth for the release, so maybe this was not accurate.
Somebody on another thread suggested that the Brits did it as retaliation for dumping the Guantanamo Uighurs in Bermuda without notifying them first. Possible, IMHO.
It was out of their control, nothing Obama could do but he is furious if that helps any......180 faceless Americans, long gone, just didn’t provide a photo-op. Amazing how they could negotiate with North Korea to get two liberal journalists, who worked for Al Gore, released.
>>Besides, Obama claimed thru his entire campaign that he “would bring a new respect for America through out the World”.<<
Be kind to me and do not ask me to comment on any of Obama’s statements. The weekend just started and I plan to enjoy it with lots of quality time on the firing range.
Like TWA 800, also taken down by Muslim terrorists, no matter how much the US tried to cover for them. I remember the constant funerals at St. Pat's in NY. Of course, that was nothing compared to a few years later, when NYC was nothing but funerals for the 9/11 victims.
Sorry. I woke up crabby, but just knowing you’re somewhere firing a gun makes me smile.
it was common knowledge in UK that a pending appeal would quite likely show that the prisoner was framed by the British government.
If this is true, do we/they know who is responsible (besides Khadafi’s government?)
so much crap is happening, its almost impossible to respond to it all. hopefully we won’t become numb from being consistently outraged, and have the balls and, imagine this, a strategy for taking congress back, and subsequently the presidency.
There are a good many theories. Outside the US it’s widely believed it was a Syrian/Iranian/Pali job.
The second post down here has some good info.
Maybe Obama should fly William Calley around on Air Force One since he said he was sorry. Shouldn’t ruffle one vietnamese eyebrow, would it?
There are a good many theories. Outside the US its widely believed it was a Syrian/Iranian/Pali job.
A NJ artist sculpted various family members to depict their pain. The sculptures were placed in a NJ park. It got a lot of attention and was one of the most painful exhibits I have ever seen.
For anyone to excuse this monster as ONLY having been marginally involved just makes me ill.
The justice department could have stopped this and they didn’t. We have charges pending against this man. No way Mueller didn’t know about this. Feigned outrage to cover their a$$es and they hope you never find out what really happened.
You nailed it.
Yep! Obie is bringing a new respect! A TOTAL BUFFOONERY!
Obie didn’t just KISS the soles of the feet of The King of Saudi Arabia! NOW OBIE HUSSEIN has Licked Clean the soles of Quaddaffi’s Feet with his Tongue! Scotland would NOT have released this dispicable Trrorist and Mass Murderer WITHOUT OBAMA HUSSEIN’S FULL MUSLIM BLESSINGS! Its Clear that OBAMA payed NO ATTENTION to NOR Consulted with His FBI DIRECTOR before giving His STINKIN Approval to this Travesty of Justice! What does Quaddaffi know about OBAMA’s Obfuscated Past that OBAMA cannot afford to let Quaddaffi Divulge for fear of Severe Repercussions????
This Dispicable Act would NEVER have happened under President George W. Bush!!!!!!!!!!! NEVER!!
Quaddaffi is laughing himself Simple over this One!!
“...The Libyan head of state embraces a murderer of americans and the president of the united states states the release is “highly objectionable”.
And BO waits a week to say anything?
AMEN!! and Thank you for your very clear and accurate statement regarding the Terrorist Destruction of TWA 800!
One more CLINTOON ATROCITY!! The DEMORATS are Great at Blessing Each and Every Terrorist Atrocity That is Reeked on Their Dispised AMERICA!
And my embarrassment at being a Scot continues.
Both of those dates are so clear in my mind I can still remember where I was. I knew right away that TWA 800 was terrorism (I was living in NYC at that time) and I remember reading about how they were searching the dunes on LI for launchers. Then suddenly it all disappeared and we had this bizarre center fuel tank thing...
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