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FBI director outraged by Lockerbie bomber release (Obama on release: "highly objectionable"
AP ^ | 22 SEP 2009 | AP

Posted on 08/22/2009 12:35:19 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet

"Your action," he wrote MacAskill, "makes a mockery of the grief of the families who lost their own on December 21, 1988. You could not have spent much time with the families, certainly not as much time as others involved in the investigation and prosecution."

He ended the Lockerbie letter with a frustrated question: "Where, I ask, is the justice?"

President Barack Obama on Friday called the elaborate homecoming in Libya for the freed bomber "highly objectionable."

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KEYWORDS: almegrahi; fbi; highlyobjectionable; lockerbie; macaskill; murder; objectionable; scotland; tm
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

The U.S. is within its rights to have this terrorist hunted down and either killed or captured.

(1) There is no statute of limitations on murder.
(2) The terrorist never faced trial in a U.S. court so double jeopardy does not apply. He can be prosecuted, convicted, and sent to a little cell in a Supermax prison to live out whatever is left of his worthless life.
(3) As far as I know (not legal advice), deadly force can be used to apprehend a murder suspect who won’t surrender to law enforcement. That means U.S. authorities can and should kill him if they can’t capture him.

Obama should have the U.S. Justice Department act on this.


51 posted on 08/22/2009 3:24:25 PM PDT by Winged Hussar (http://moveonpleasemoveon.blogspot.com/)
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To: madameguinot

“And BO waits a week to say anything?”

WHAT DID THEY KNOW AND WHEN DID THEY KNOW IT?


52 posted on 08/22/2009 3:24:51 PM PDT by james500
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To: Deb

Its Not Your Embaressment! Thats a Proud Heritage You have and dont ever Forget It!
This wasn’t done by the Scots, this was a deal done by the Brits and the Supreme MUSLIM APOLOGIST and Grand Alleged American MULLAH, OBIE KANOBI! He hates seeing Muslim Terrorist Locked Up, No Matter how Evil His brothere may be....


53 posted on 08/22/2009 3:26:05 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: True Republican Patriot

Nope. My people have betrayed William Wallace... don’t forget George Galloway!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


54 posted on 08/22/2009 3:28:15 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

I remember the story of the Lockerbie breaking as if it were yesterday. Most vivid was the mother of one of the students returning for the holidays after their semester abroad. As she arrived at JFK to welcome her child back home she got the devastating news. She just fell to her knees in the middle of the terminal screaming, “my baby, my baby.” It was the most profound grief. The country wept with her.

I can guarantee you my kids got extra hugs that night, and held close a little longer. That feeling has never left me.


55 posted on 08/22/2009 3:31:48 PM PDT by EDINVA (A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul -- G. B. Shaw)
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To: livius

There are still LOONS around that believe the Fuel Tank Coverup and they are the same Stooges who Voted for this Village Idiot Who is doing everything possible to Embaress and Destroy OUR GREAT AMERICA!


56 posted on 08/22/2009 3:32:06 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
Any Israelis on that flight? If so, his days are numbered.
57 posted on 08/22/2009 3:35:19 PM PDT by Errant (`)
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To: Errant

He was much safer in jail. Black Op his ass.


58 posted on 08/22/2009 3:44:40 PM PDT by RacerX1128
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To: FightThePower!

Oh please, 20,000 lb bombs would have been better. 8>)


59 posted on 08/22/2009 3:44:52 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

To whom it may concern in the UK government:

I am going to have to publicly state that I find the release of the Lockerbie bomber “highly objectionable.” Please understand that this is for public consumption on the home front. For some reason, many people here cannot forgive that guy. But please understand that I do not really intend to criticize you. I think it is great that you are releasing this poor man, and I will certainly do everything that I can behind the scenes to show support to you.

Yours truly,

President Obama


60 posted on 08/22/2009 3:57:06 PM PDT by Rocky (OBAMA: Succeeding where bin Laden failed.)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
Another twist in the tale:

  Qaddafi Praises Britain Over Lockerbie Release

although, of course, this should be taken with a big grain of salt since Mr. Qaddafi is not very reliable.

61 posted on 08/22/2009 4:34:23 PM PDT by snowsislander (NRA -- join today! 1-877-NRA-2000)
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To: 353FMG

“Do you think that Bush would have reacted otherwise?”

I believe the Bush Administration would’ve worked hard behind the scenes with the Brits and Scots and pressured them not to release the terrorist.


62 posted on 08/22/2009 4:39:25 PM PDT by ScottinVA
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To: Deb

Ah, Deb, good to see your post. I recall I always enjoying reading your precise observations here on Free Republic.
V’s wife.


63 posted on 08/22/2009 4:54:17 PM PDT by ventana
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
180 DEAD Americans and all 0bama can say about his homecoming celebration is that it was highly objectionable?

My god, how can this person be considered the representative leader of a nation who has 180 dead people and all he can say is this?

Bush was a far better man with all of his failings, Far, FAR better!

64 posted on 08/22/2009 5:02:10 PM PDT by R0CK3T
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
"highly objectionable"

These terms that they use sound like the kind of terms historians would use to describe how a figure in history felt about some incident. "deeply troubled", "deep concern", "deeply saddened". It's like they are incapable of true emotions and real reactions. Bush and Clinton did it too.

65 posted on 08/22/2009 5:34:36 PM PDT by Perchant
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To: FightThePower!

>>We should have had a stealth bomber flying over the spot of his homecoming and dropped a 2,000 lbs bomb on the whole crowd.

I saw a short vidclip of that event, and was thinking at the time the world would be a better place if that sort of thing were to happen.


66 posted on 08/22/2009 5:47:41 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: Winged Hussar

“Highly objectionable”....Obama uses language that an upper class twit in an old British movie would use. Come to think of it, he is rather twittish....Chamberlainesque, one might even say.


67 posted on 08/22/2009 6:24:22 PM PDT by madmominct ("Liberalism is a slow road to despotism." -- The Great One, Mark Levin)
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To: Deb

Exactly. Reagan and Bush Sr. pretty well neutered Gaddafi, and W persuaded him to give up his ties to Muslim terrorism and turn in his nukes. Since then, he has pretty much spit on the Arabs and has been playing a pan-African game instead.

What Obama has succeeded in doing is to show such weakness that Gaddafi is now doing a bit of Islamist celebrating, and our former ally the UK is trading terrorists for oil.

What good would it do to pull our ambassador from Libya or stage another fight with Brown? Let the Brits handle that matter. But the obvious thing is that Obama’s foolish behavior is causing other nations—including our allies, to disrespect us.

Hopefully, Gaddafi will stop there, and not get back into the terrorist revolutionary business. And hopefully the Brits and Scots will take care of their own scuzzy politicians.


68 posted on 08/22/2009 6:27:03 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Diogenesis

He’s still wanted in this country ...........he is bound to seek medical attention in a country we have extradition with. Snag his sorry ass, bring him here, try , sentence him to death .............. no wait this is a socialist democrat administration that is three limbs lower on the lack’o’nuts tree than Carter was.

This and gitmo are proof we should never keep a terrorist prisoner alive more than 96 hours or let anyone know we have em at all.

Just my opinion.......Stay safe !


69 posted on 08/22/2009 6:45:49 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Squantos

“he is bound to seek medical attention in a country...”

ha ha. thats actually quite funny. if this libyan waits long enough, and we extradite him to the U.S., and the obamacare passes, he should then get the public option and have his expenses paid for.... since our elected offices, education system, and scholarships are going to illegals, rather than those born here. Funny how things are working out. Can’t wait for the movie.


70 posted on 08/22/2009 7:32:07 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: Sherman Logan
While the outrage is understandable, prior to the release it was common knowledge in UK that a pending appeal would quite likely show that the prisoner was framed by the British government.

I know nothing of all this, but I have *heard* that there are some folks in Scotland (Lockerbie itself?) who thought he might be innocent.

71 posted on 08/22/2009 7:37:14 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: sionnsar

Some of the UK online news outlets... have remarks in the comment section that show this to be true.

Many ppl felt he was wrongly convicted.


72 posted on 08/22/2009 7:39:49 PM PDT by KarenMarie (NEVER believe anything coming out of DC until it's been denied.)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

the problem with events like this, where the average person expects a different, more appropriate reaction from their leader, is that it fuels deep misgivings, and huge concerns over the legitimacy of those governing.

And....when other nation’s leaders (aka Brown), whom apparently agreed with the release but wrote in a letter that there better not be any partying going on in Libya on the murderer’s arrival or people across the pond may get all wee-weed up, then the brits and scots will question the legitimacy of their government.

Result?....hopefully downfall.


73 posted on 08/22/2009 7:51:08 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: sionnsar

if the man was innocent and was framed,...why would Libya pay 1.5 billion in compensation? Argument doesn’t wash.


74 posted on 08/22/2009 7:52:37 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
...makes a mockery of the grief of the families who lost their own on December 21, 1988.
Image and video hosting by TinyPic "So anyway, let's make it an Arby's night."

75 posted on 08/22/2009 7:52:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: KarenMarie

again,...if the framing of an innocent libyan is true,..then the Brits have some serious justice problems:
1) they convict the wrong man
2) Kaddafi pays 1.5 billion in compensation
3) the scottish justice states, while the guy was convicted, he is released on compassionate reasons.
4) out of the blue, kaddafi’s son states that the when the brits brought up trade agreements with the libyans, the murderer’s release was a caveat.

oh, what the puppet masters do to pull our strings which way they want us to move.


76 posted on 08/22/2009 7:56:41 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

I dunno — I really don’t. And in this regard I really, really don’t. But in such issues there’s often more than one ball in play. You tell me.


77 posted on 08/22/2009 8:21:57 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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GREAT letter; perfectly stated. Made me proud.


78 posted on 08/22/2009 9:37:20 PM PDT by NoRedTape
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

“why would Libya pay 1.5 billion in compensation? Argument doesn’t wash.”

to get INTERNATIONAL TRADE AND SANCTIONS LIFTED. That’s why.


79 posted on 08/22/2009 9:54:43 PM PDT by japaneseghost
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

Let’s stop calling him the Lockerbie Bomber. He is a murderer. He killed 259 on the plane, 11 on the ground.

Thirty-five students from Syracuse University, four from Colgate University, four from Brown University, two from Seton Hill University, and two from the State University of New York at Oswego were on board, flying home from overseas study in London. There was also one student from Hampshire College flying home from a field study in Nigeria. Ten of the victims were residents of Long Island—including father and son, John and Sean Mulroy—and were returning home for seasonal celebrations with families and friends, as reported by Newsday of 27 December 1988.

He is a murderer. It’s that simple.


80 posted on 08/22/2009 9:59:46 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Does "We All Weed Up" Indicate Obama Is Now Channeling Bob Marley?)
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To: Candor7
I'd make the argument that since that a/c was in flight, it was sovereign US territory, and he could still be brought to the US for murder charges, for killing 259 people on a US aircraft.
81 posted on 08/22/2009 10:01:24 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Does "We All Weed Up" Indicate Obama Is Now Channeling Bob Marley?)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
Obama feels the release was “highly objectionable.”

Too bad he didn't “object” loud enough or long enough to the UK government before the release.

Obama feels the release was “highly objectionable.”

Gee, I wonder how the families of 259 murdered passengers and crew feel.

82 posted on 08/22/2009 10:04:37 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Does "We All Weed Up" Indicate Obama Is Now Channeling Bob Marley?)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
You can guarantee this raghead will be miraculously healed by allah and return to the business of killing Americans. Instead of dropping a 2,000 lb of him and his closest friends, save the money and send in a sniper. Help him go the land of 72 (gay and ugly) virgins and allah a little faster with a little help from our friends.
83 posted on 08/22/2009 10:37:32 PM PDT by antiunion person (PALIN for PRESIDENT 2012)
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To: Winged Hussar

The U.S. is within its rights to have this terrorist hunted down and either killed or captured.

(1) There is no statute of limitations on murder.
(2) The terrorist never faced trial in a U.S. court so double jeopardy does not apply. He can be prosecuted, convicted, and sent to a little cell in a Supermax prison to live out whatever is left of his worthless life.
(3) As far as I know (not legal advice), deadly force can be used to apprehend a murder suspect who won’t surrender to law enforcement. That means U.S. authorities can and should kill him if they can’t capture him.


unfortunately it´s not that simple.
1. Only because in the US there is no statue of limitations on murder does not nessersary mean that every other country in this world has the same law.
2. There would have been no legal way to put him on trial in a regular cort in the US because he never commited any crime on US soil. As bizzare as this may sound but killing people in generall isn´t even illegal at all. It´s the law of the counry where you commit it which makes it illegal or not. Just a example someone who legal shoots a burgler in texas may would have been (again total legal) convicted for murder some where else.
3. Yeah sounds nice but would not be a good Idea.
Because if you kill someone in a foreign country it´s just simple a crime called murder (the law does not care who you kill) and if they catch you you will find your self soon (total legal) in a prison cell for a least a very very long time. btw. Lets assume you have killed this terrorist. (most people would not have a problem with this true) but where do you stop? Kill the inocent police officer you may encounter (who only does his job to hunt down a killer) too to get this bastard? btw. if catched this would be a political nightmare for the government.


84 posted on 08/22/2009 11:16:10 PM PDT by Jonny foreigner
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To: 353FMG
what would you have liked for him to do?

Reagan would have had American jets intercept the plane carrying this scum, and brought him to the U.S. for trial. If he died in custody during the process, so be it.

85 posted on 08/23/2009 1:20:15 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Get rid of the dirty moderates. Get rid of them,)
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To: Sherman Logan

So in other words the UK is filled with a bunch of nazi terrorist supporters? Only Nazi POS child molesting terror supporters believe he was framed.


86 posted on 08/23/2009 1:31:34 AM PDT by rexgrossmansonlyfan (Obama, Blagojevich, Stroger and Daley when Daley is the least corrupt of a group you have issues!)
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To: Sherman Logan

Not being a child raping terror supporter like everyone who believes this is what a bunch of crap.

Everyone who believes this crap deserves to get on a plane with the worthless POS.


87 posted on 08/23/2009 1:36:41 AM PDT by rexgrossmansonlyfan (Obama, Blagojevich, Stroger and Daley when Daley is the least corrupt of a group you have issues!)
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To: sionnsar

A bomb should be dropped on all the people that announce they love Bin Laden by supporting this terrorist POS.


88 posted on 08/23/2009 1:40:43 AM PDT by rexgrossmansonlyfan (Obama, Blagojevich, Stroger and Daley when Daley is the least corrupt of a group you have issues!)
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To: japaneseghost

Another terror supporter takes the side of the bomber.

We should gather all the subhuman trash who support this theory and drop a bomb on them. They were celebrating the day this happened. 180 people died and these people were out celebrating.

They are just as much terrorists as this recently freed guy.

They mark September 11th as a day of joy.


89 posted on 08/23/2009 1:43:28 AM PDT by rexgrossmansonlyfan (Obama, Blagojevich, Stroger and Daley when Daley is the least corrupt of a group you have issues!)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

This is selective “compassion” ie FAKE COMPASSION


90 posted on 08/23/2009 2:37:13 AM PDT by Ulysse
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To: 353FMG

Bush was not always right!
Far from that!
But BUSH made some good things and he tried at least and he was not a libtard-fascist wannabe muslim...

Case closed.Now it’s a mater of OBAMA....And he could have done much more against that mess concerning Scotland and Lybia.But obviously he doesn’t want to...


91 posted on 08/23/2009 2:46:58 AM PDT by Ulysse
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To: Deb

William Wallace come back!

He has probably some descendants...Thanks


92 posted on 08/23/2009 3:05:14 AM PDT by Ulysse
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To: rexgrossmansonlyfan

You are falling prey to the common delusion that the more horrible the crime is the more likely the accused is to have been the one who committed it. So for the worst crimes we should just skip the trial and go straight to the execution. This, of course, is the attitude that led people to lynchings. They were trying to express their outrage, a perfectly understandable reaction.

However, when a child is raped and murdered, someone committed the crime. This does not in and of itself mean the accused, John Smith, did it.

The doubts and discrepancies as to whether the gentleman in question was actually guilty have not been reported in this country, so it’s not surprising few Americans are aware of them. They therefore assume the only issue involved here is a cave-in to Muslim pressure.

It is at least as likely he was released so the British government would not have to face up to a second appeal, which it is widely believed would demonstrate they had intentionally framed a man they knew to be innocent of this particular crime, although probably a bad guy in the abstract. Or that they at least fudged the evidence to nail down a conviction of someone they believed guilty anyway.

The Brits were under intense pressure to “solve” this crime and police forces and governments have been known to do similar things in the past.

I’m agnostic on the issue, but people who I respect and who know a lot more about it than I do are not convinced he was guilty.

What I will never understand is the mindset of those who don’t really care whether the convicted person is guilty or not. All they care about is that someone is being punished. This of course means that if the person in jail is not the guilty party, those who actually did commit the crime continue to walk free.


93 posted on 08/23/2009 3:51:22 AM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: Jonny foreigner

Dang! Is English a second language for you?


94 posted on 08/23/2009 4:42:45 AM PDT by houeto (liberals v. conservatives = irreconcilable differences..."It's time to part the sheets!")
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To: MindBender26
Agreed.
95 posted on 08/23/2009 4:58:17 AM PDT by Candor7 (The weapons of choice against fascism are ridicule ,derision ,truth. (member NRA)
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To: houeto

yes. As every body can see (i guess all the typing errors and the simple grammar i´m using leaves no doubt) that english is not my mother tounge.


96 posted on 08/23/2009 5:29:03 AM PDT by Jonny foreigner
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
“utterly outraged” in lieu of “highly objectionable.”

bfd. Good lord. This is what we've devolved to? I'm outraged at the lack of outrage due to the overuse of the term 'outrage.'

97 posted on 08/23/2009 6:17:15 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Sherman Logan

Only a child raping terror supporter believes this guy is innocent.

You’re falling prey to your friends in AL Queda and their propganda.

Just like some people believe child rape is okay some people believe this guy is innocent. The same kind of people believe both.


98 posted on 08/23/2009 7:46:09 AM PDT by rexgrossmansonlyfan (Obama, Blagojevich, Stroger and Daley when Daley is the least corrupt of a group you have issues!)
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To: rexgrossmansonlyfan
Only a child raping terror supporter believes this guy is innocent.

Very odd line of reasoning. I didn't say he's innocent, BTW, I stated that a lot of people do so believe. This is indisputably accurate.

David Frum, not exactly a liberal although not always someone I agree with, included this list of them in his column today.

"Among those who support the Iran-did-it theory are: (i) former Israeli prime minister Ariel Sharon; (ii) Robert Baer, the CIA official who worked directly on the Lockerbie case; (iii) Hans Koechler, the UN Security Council observer at al-Megrahi's trial; (iv) Robert Black, the Scottish lawyer who organized the trial proceedings; (v) Dr. Jim Swire, the spokesman for the families of British Lockerbie victims who lost his own daughter aboard Pan Am Flight 103; and (vi) David Horovitz, editor of the Jerusalem Post.

Are all of them child raping terror supporters?

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2009/08/22/david-frum-why-so-little-outcry-from-washington-on-al-megrahi.aspx

99 posted on 08/23/2009 7:56:25 AM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: Candor7; neutronsgalore
You are so right. We should be cutting off diplomatic ties with Libya, and telling the government of Scotland that all goods imported to the USA from Scotland, including whiskey,will have a 50% tariff.

Make that a 270% tariff, for the 270 victims.
100 posted on 08/23/2009 11:33:26 AM PDT by fallujah-nuker (America needs more SAC and less empty sacs from Goldman-Sachs.)
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