Skip to comments.McCain Says Public Option Must Be Dropped for Compromise
Posted on 08/23/2009 2:32:13 PM PDT by neverdem
Wading into the debate on a national health care plan, Senator John McCain said on Sunday that one way for Democrats and Republicans to reach a compromise would be for President Obama to abandon a government-run insurance program for the nations 49 million uninsured.
Interviewed on ABCs This Week with George Stephanopoulos Mr. McCain, the Arizona Republican and 2008 presidential candidate, said that a public plan would cause many Americans to lose their private health insurance. Although he was not asked to explain, opponents of a government-run plan have previously warned that many employers would scuttle private insurance for their workers if such a program were enacted.
Certainly if you have it, you shouldnt have to lose it, Mr. McCain said of private insurance. But under the presidents plan, you would have to lose it in my view because of the government option. I believe that one of the fundamentals for any agreement would be that the president abandon the government option.
Last week, Kathleen Sebelius, the Secretary of Health and Human Services, said that a government-run plan was not essential to an overhaul, a concession to United States senators who say such a plan could not win the backing of a majority of the crucial Senate Finance Committee. The focus shifted to discussion of nonprofit medical co-operatives, which are popular in some Midwestern states and more palatable to conservatives. But outrage by liberals supporting a government plan has made the fate of that provision unclear.
Senator Charles E. Schumer, the New York Democrat and a member of the Finance committee, said on NBCs Meet the Press that President Obama believes strongly in a public option.
He argued that a government plan was imperative because it would introduce competition in the industry. In 40 of the 50 states, he said...
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Not the least of which are "death panels"- yes, this is exactly what they are, no matter what you "enlightened" elites in the media claim, "pregnancy planning counseling," "effective Americans (meaning only people who Big Brother deems "useful), just to name a mere handful.
Not the least of which NONE of YOU elected slobs plan to take part in this "wonderful experiment."
Fortunately, you and others like you who aren't quite qualified to tell those of us who don't plan on "stepping aside" to make room for millions of illegal aliens who "need" our space in doctors' offices.
Two Republicans already have announced they will challenge McCain in the primary: Chris Simcox, the founder of the border-watch group Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, and political unknown Jim Deakin, who describes himself as a Navy veteran and "successful small businessman." Some are hoping J.D. Hayworth, a former congressman turned KFYI talk-radio host, will enter the GOP race, too.
If one side is saying “NO DEAL” without the public option, you’re better off by at least appearing to be willing to compromise.
KILL THIS BILL!!
This type of thinking is exactly why the GOP is in the situation it's in.
(note to senator mac, from one of his constituents)
WOULD YOU PLEASE STOP STANDING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE?
IT’S GARBAGE LIKE THIS THAT IS HELPING TO RUIN THE COUNTRY.
Do you want my vote in 2012?
Than act like a CONSERVATIVE.
Fancy seeing “compromise” and “McCain” in the same headline.
Americans do not want this crap...do you get it, old man?? AMERICANS DO NOT WANT IT. AT ALL.
So, you want the entire subject to change. I don’t want the subject changed. The Republicans are playing this perfectly. Shouting from the rooftops that “no way, no how, we’re ever going to have a bill” would be stupid, and make THEM and not the bill and Obama’s constant bumbling the issue.
Who would have thought the RINO’s would want to “compromise” with total evil?
OK, don’t answer that
Note to McCain: Retire with honor, while you still have some.
Senator Judas will sell us out, yet...
NO COMPROMISE. NO BILL. NOTHING. RETIRE MCLAME YOU LOSER.
Compromise my ass. I want the federal government's long needle nose the hell out of it.
As for that RINO crap weasel McCain, if someone runs against him in the Republican primary, I will be donating to that person. Whatever respect and admiration he was entitled to for his past military service, he has long since used it up with his RINO behavior on important conservative issues.
What the law omits the regulations will restore.
The public option must be dropped period.
McCain, we don't need "bipartisan" compromise and we don't need you.
McCain aka Spector lite.
Yes, the public option isn’t an option, but John....be quiet.
Absolutely! Someone please tell this imbecile that WE DON'T WANT HEALTHCARE FROM THIS BUNCH! THEY CAN'T BE TRUSTED!!
In conferences where we decide what to do about our health, there is us (the patient) and the doctor. Our insurance company may have some input, so we chose our insurance company carefully.
We do not want the government being part of our health decision, AT ALL!
I think the only principle McCain lives by when he’s in his office is ‘compromise’.
They just don’t get it. McCain is the best example of RINO has-been’s who refuse to get out of the way.
We don’t want anything Washington comes up with — from either party. Unless the GOP is willing to join in with the rest of us trying to keep our Constitution and Bill of Rights in tact, they are part of the problem. So far they have been utterly pathetic
How many times and in how many ways does it have to be said. We don’t want any.
Washington needs to get to hell out of our business and get out of the way of our ability to provide for our selves and our families.
oh, well f*ck you!
Go work at your $50 per hour job picking lettuce and leave America alone.
In fact John, leave America!
Public Saays McCain Must Be Dropped for Compromise...
Agreed, but they are going to make you pay for that.
McCain remains resolutely positive that only government can fix the problems that government has created.
He is a firm believer that there is nothing wrong in this world that another federal regulation won't fix.
I am getting so tired of his ass.
Earth to McCain......SHUT UP. GO AWAY.... GET OFF MY TV.....
YOU ARE SO IRELIVANT I can’t stand to hear you speak.
Go away John, NO COMPROMISE! Don’t you understand? Americans want NO PART of Obamadeath care.
John McCain. The gift that keeps on giving.
Interviewed on ABC's "This Week with George Stephanopoulos" Mr. McCain, the Arizona Republican and 2008 presidential candidate, said that a public plan would cause many Americans to lose their private health insurance... "Certainly if you have it, you shouldn't have to lose it," Mr. McCain said of private insurance. "But under the president's plan, you would have to lose it in my view because of the government option. I believe that one of the fundamentals for any agreement would be that the president abandon the government option." ...The focus shifted to discussion of nonprofit medical co-operatives, which are popular in some Midwestern states and more palatable to conservatives. But outrage by liberals supporting a government plan has made the fate of that provision unclear.Where this POS reporter refers to "Mr. McCain" s/b "Senator McCain". Thanks neverdem.
McShame - There is NO compromise. You are a lame duck senator, how does that grab you?
Juan McCain is an evil idiot.
Ping... looks like the ole RINO is ready to “compromise” principles (again) for 0bamaCare. No butt too dirty to smooch.
How obtuse can you be? You believe that Republicans should pretend to work out a deal just so the media won't think their meanies?
I dont want the subject changed. The Republicans are playing this perfectly. Shouting from the rooftops that no way, no how, were ever going to have a bill would be stupid, and make THEM and not the bill and Obamas constant bumbling the issue.
That's how the public feels though - no way, no how! THEY DON'T WANT THIS BILL. It makes no sense politically, for the Republicans to try and help pass this (even if it is for show). Especially considering that the Republican proposals have been completely ignored by the Dems.
I never said they should support THIS bill. I don’t think they should ultimately support any bill, but to stubbornly say that, they’ll look like children, and that would change the subject.
NO. No compromise, just NO!
OMG. He took the bait again.
He’s so stupid they don’t even bait the hook anymore, just toss into the light and the glint causes him to leap for it.
According to the pilots I know, McCain's Daddy had quite a lot of pull. He graduated last in his class and crashed two aircraft, plus caused a blackout in Spain when he was screwing around and flew through some power lines. Some pilot.
Geez, would somebody throw a net over that SOB already!!!
There’s a helluva lot more wrong with that piece of crap bill than just the government option, which ultimately is no option.
The number one thing we should be talking about is the fact that congress has exempted itself and federal employees from the bill. The second thing we should be talking about are the provisions that obligate taxpayers to fund pruvate union health care and pensions. The third thing we should be talking about is that illegals are not excluded from receiving health care under the bill and that abortion is not excluded. Unless something is specifically excluded, it’s not excluded.
McCain needs to STFU about compromises. I am so sick of him I really could scream.
In a point of historical accuracy, he wasn't a fighter pilot, but a ground attack pilot. Nevertheless he should have washed out of flight training, but being the son, and grandson, of naval admirals had something to do with it...
I agree with what you've been saying throughout this thread- from a public relations standpoint, it's bad politics to look like a pack of braying, naysaying obstructionists. Republicans do indeed need to appear to be offering the dems some smart, saner reforms which would actually fix the problems rather than reward the federal government for its disastrous mishandling of medicare & medicaid by handing it everything else it hasn't yet screwed up. Absolutely! In fact pubbies have BEEN doing that, though they don't get any traction with the state run media which is pushing Obama's bill.
The problem is here we're not talking about generic republicans adapting a 'reasonable', flexible attitude for the sake of public relations in this battle.
We're talking about John Sidney McCain, a card-carrying member of his very own party of one who's never met a problem he didn't think a massive government program designed by his BFFs across the aisle wouldn't fix. What he's saying here is NOT just for the benefit of enhacing Rebublicans' political negotiating position. Not on your life!
Nope, this man is going to get his name on the 2009 McCain-Kennedy-Feingold-Lieberman Health Act if it kills him, by golly, and he doesn't care if he has to screw Republicans, the elderly or his country to get his name on it or any other bill for that matter, no matter how truly rotten it is.
In fact, just so long as there's even a little bit of space on the top of the page where he can squeeze in his name in there somewhere, McCain is good to go as one of its sponsors & he doesn't care one whit what's actually in it!
Now, if some other Republican had said he was considering the bill without x,y or z component, we could probably trust him that he's just playing to the press for the sake of appearing deliberative & wasn't really going to sign his name to a dem turkey like Obamacare & help the dems share the blame with the repubs for the disastrous consequences which will likely ensue from their legislative malfeasance.
It's just that, given McCain's ignominious history of saddling the citizens with some of the worst, most boneheaded 'compromise' legislation ever crafted in the history of this Republic (see: McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy, McCain-Lieberman etc etc et al ad nauseum), we KNOW only too well we can't expect that this man will do what's right for the American people if it means he must forego getting any bill-naming 'glory'. That's just who this man is, unfortunately. That's the sum total of his ideology (emphasis on the id.)
IOW, I don't think any of us here would be averse at all to another Republican making politically smart conciliatory-sounding noises about trying to find common ground with POTUS & the dem majority for the good of the nation yadayada as you correctly suggested is wise, it's just John McCain in particular who makes us scream 'BOHICA!' when he even starts talking this way about 'compromise'.
We've all just seen this movie too many times before, unfortunately.
I don't know. McCain likes to hear himself talk. The rats nominally have the votes to do this all by themselves, but they got their majority in Congress by making false pretenses since 2006. Saying no "Public Option" makes the marxists go bonkers.
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“McCain Says Public Option Must Be Dropped for Compromise”
Little f*ckhead’s just trying to get re-elected.
McCain wants a “compromise”.......just like in 2008 when he kept talking about standing for “regular Americans” and being a “maverick” against the “big boys”, then when the bailout for the fat cats was up for vote in the Senate, he stopped campaigning to zip back to DC to vote for the fat cat bailout with his Senate “colleagues”. Look out for another Johnny stab-in-our-back.
WE DON’T WANT COMPROMISE!!!
We want things like TORT REFORM.
And RINOs that disappear.
We don't want a compromise. The public option is not the only thing wrong with ObamaCare.
Thanks for the ping, neverdem. Posts #2 and #3 pretty well sum up the situation for me.