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McCain Says Public Option Must Be Dropped for Compromise
NY Times ^ | August 24, 2009 | JOSEPH BERGER

Posted on 08/23/2009 2:32:13 PM PDT by neverdem

Wading into the debate on a national health care plan, Senator John McCain said on Sunday that one way for Democrats and Republicans to reach a compromise would be for President Obama to abandon a government-run insurance program for the nation’s 49 million uninsured.

Interviewed on ABC’s “This Week with George Stephanopoulos” Mr. McCain, the Arizona Republican and 2008 presidential candidate, said that a public plan would cause many Americans to lose their private health insurance. Although he was not asked to explain, opponents of a government-run plan have previously warned that many employers would scuttle private insurance for their workers if such a program were enacted.

“Certainly if you have it, you shouldn’t have to lose it,” Mr. McCain said of private insurance. “But under the president’s plan, you would have to lose it in my view because of the government option. I believe that one of the fundamentals for any agreement would be that the president abandon the government option.”

Last week, Kathleen Sebelius, the Secretary of Health and Human Services, said that a government-run plan was not essential to an overhaul, a concession to United States senators who say such a plan could not win the backing of a majority of the crucial Senate Finance Committee. The focus shifted to discussion of nonprofit medical co-operatives, which are popular in some Midwestern states and more palatable to conservatives. But outrage by liberals supporting a government plan has made the fate of that provision unclear.

Senator Charles E. Schumer, the New York Democrat and a member of the Finance committee, said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” that President Obama “believes strongly in a public option.”

He argued that a government plan was imperative because it would introduce competition in the industry. In 40 of the 50 states, he said...

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To: neverdem
We don't want no steenking compromise, Juan!
51 posted on 08/23/2009 3:21:05 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: neverdem
Forget the compromise, Senator. No more "reaching across the aisle" on this issue.
52 posted on 08/23/2009 3:27:06 PM PDT by Faith
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To: neverdem
Note to McCain:(Perhaps this, among many other reasons is why few conservatives "flocked" to vote for you)Public Option is only one of many, many reasons NOT to vote for this Obama-nation!

Not the least of which are "death panels"- yes, this is exactly what they are, no matter what you "enlightened" elites in the media claim, "pregnancy planning counseling," "effective Americans (meaning only people who Big Brother deems "useful), just to name a mere handful.

Not the least of which NONE of YOU elected slobs plan to take part in this "wonderful experiment."

Fortunately, you and others like you who aren't quite qualified to tell those of us who don't plan on "stepping aside" to make room for millions of illegal aliens who "need" our space in doctors' offices.

53 posted on 08/23/2009 3:35:11 PM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: Mogollon
"McQueeg needs to be voted out of office in 2010."

Two Republicans already have announced they will challenge McCain in the primary: Chris Simcox, the founder of the border-watch group Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, and political unknown Jim Deakin, who describes himself as a Navy veteran and "successful small businessman." Some are hoping J.D. Hayworth, a former congressman turned KFYI talk-radio host, will enter the GOP race, too.

54 posted on 08/23/2009 3:35:15 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Bloodbath coming in 2010- and then come the elections!)
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To: kabar

If one side is saying “NO DEAL” without the public option, you’re better off by at least appearing to be willing to compromise.


55 posted on 08/23/2009 3:37:41 PM PDT by Boiling Pots (Evil-Mongering Angry Mobster)
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To: neverdem

KILL THIS BILL!!


56 posted on 08/23/2009 3:40:17 PM PDT by LADY J (Change your thoughts and you change your world. - Norman Vincent Peale)
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To: Boiling Pots
Being seen as an “obstructionist” won’t help our cause.

This type of thinking is exactly why the GOP is in the situation it's in.

57 posted on 08/23/2009 3:44:31 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("It (Gov't) can't make you happier, healthier, wealthier, and wise" - Sarah Palin 07/26)
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To: neverdem

(note to senator mac, from one of his constituents)

Senator McCain,

WOULD YOU PLEASE STOP STANDING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE?

IT’S GARBAGE LIKE THIS THAT IS HELPING TO RUIN THE COUNTRY.

Do you want my vote in 2012?

Than act like a CONSERVATIVE.

machogirl


58 posted on 08/23/2009 3:45:51 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: GeronL

Fancy seeing “compromise” and “McCain” in the same headline.


59 posted on 08/23/2009 3:46:32 PM PDT by discomatic
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To: neverdem
Uh, John McLame, here is the solution:
KILL THE WHOLE DAMN BILL.

Americans do not want this crap...do you get it, old man?? AMERICANS DO NOT WANT IT. AT ALL.

Idiots.

60 posted on 08/23/2009 3:47:07 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

So, you want the entire subject to change. I don’t want the subject changed. The Republicans are playing this perfectly. Shouting from the rooftops that “no way, no how, we’re ever going to have a bill” would be stupid, and make THEM and not the bill and Obama’s constant bumbling the issue.


61 posted on 08/23/2009 3:48:21 PM PDT by Boiling Pots (Evil-Mongering Angry Mobster)
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To: discomatic

Who would have thought the RINO’s would want to “compromise” with total evil?

OK, don’t answer that


62 posted on 08/23/2009 3:50:26 PM PDT by GeronL (Toward the TOTUS State-Nightmare in Obamaland .. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: neverdem

Note to McCain: Retire with honor, while you still have some.


63 posted on 08/23/2009 3:51:26 PM PDT by NewLand (What does 0bama know and when did he know it?)
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To: neverdem

Senator Judas will sell us out, yet...


64 posted on 08/23/2009 3:53:30 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: neverdem

NO COMPROMISE. NO BILL. NOTHING. RETIRE MCLAME YOU LOSER.


65 posted on 08/23/2009 3:54:27 PM PDT by vortigern
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To: kabar
I agree with your post--every word.

Compromise my ass. I want the federal government's long needle nose the hell out of it.

As for that RINO crap weasel McCain, if someone runs against him in the Republican primary, I will be donating to that person. Whatever respect and admiration he was entitled to for his past military service, he has long since used it up with his RINO behavior on important conservative issues.

66 posted on 08/23/2009 4:08:57 PM PDT by Czar (Life Member -- NRA)
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To: neverdem

What the law omits the regulations will restore.


67 posted on 08/23/2009 4:11:49 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: neverdem
McCain Says Public Option Must Be Dropped for Compromise

The public option must be dropped period.

McCain, we don't need "bipartisan" compromise and we don't need you.

68 posted on 08/23/2009 4:22:36 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, nothing more than bald haired hippies.)
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To: trisham

McCain aka Spector lite.


69 posted on 08/23/2009 4:30:15 PM PDT by wiggen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WayzmX0WQvg)
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To: neverdem

Yes, the public option isn’t an option, but John....be quiet.


70 posted on 08/23/2009 4:48:12 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (Have no fear "President Government" is here)
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To: kabar
We don't want a compromise. The public option is not the only thing wrong with ObamaCare.

Absolutely! Someone please tell this imbecile that WE DON'T WANT HEALTHCARE FROM THIS BUNCH! THEY CAN'T BE TRUSTED!!

71 posted on 08/23/2009 5:08:28 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: neverdem

In conferences where we decide what to do about our health, there is us (the patient) and the doctor. Our insurance company may have some input, so we chose our insurance company carefully.

We do not want the government being part of our health decision, AT ALL!


72 posted on 08/23/2009 5:18:40 PM PDT by veracious
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To: neverdem

I think the only principle McCain lives by when he’s in his office is ‘compromise’.


73 posted on 08/23/2009 6:07:38 PM PDT by wastedyears (Genesis, Sega CD and Saturn work, and my 360 red rings after 2 and a half years.)
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They just don’t get it. McCain is the best example of RINO has-been’s who refuse to get out of the way.

We don’t want anything Washington comes up with — from either party. Unless the GOP is willing to join in with the rest of us trying to keep our Constitution and Bill of Rights in tact, they are part of the problem. So far they have been utterly pathetic

How many times and in how many ways does it have to be said. We don’t want any.

Washington needs to get to hell out of our business and get out of the way of our ability to provide for our selves and our families.


74 posted on 08/23/2009 6:11:43 PM PDT by alreadythere
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To: neverdem
>McCain Says Public Option Must Be Dropped for Compromise

oh, well f*ck you!
Go work at your $50 per hour job picking lettuce and leave America alone.
In fact John, leave America!

Public Saays McCain Must Be Dropped for Compromise...

75 posted on 08/23/2009 6:13:57 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: longtermmemmory

Agreed, but they are going to make you pay for that.


76 posted on 08/23/2009 6:16:46 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: alreadythere
How many times and in how many ways does it have to be said. We don’t want any.

McCain remains resolutely positive that only government can fix the problems that government has created.

He is a firm believer that there is nothing wrong in this world that another federal regulation won't fix.

I am getting so tired of his ass.

77 posted on 08/23/2009 6:16:57 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: neverdem

Earth to McCain......SHUT UP. GO AWAY.... GET OFF MY TV.....

YOU ARE SO IRELIVANT I can’t stand to hear you speak.


78 posted on 08/23/2009 6:17:56 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: neverdem

Go away John, NO COMPROMISE! Don’t you understand? Americans want NO PART of Obamadeath care.


79 posted on 08/23/2009 6:40:21 PM PDT by Jmouse007 (hank you)
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To: neverdem

John McCain. The gift that keeps on giving.


80 posted on 08/23/2009 6:42:37 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
Interviewed on ABC's "This Week with George Stephanopoulos" Mr. McCain, the Arizona Republican and 2008 presidential candidate, said that a public plan would cause many Americans to lose their private health insurance... "Certainly if you have it, you shouldn't have to lose it," Mr. McCain said of private insurance. "But under the president's plan, you would have to lose it in my view because of the government option. I believe that one of the fundamentals for any agreement would be that the president abandon the government option." ...The focus shifted to discussion of nonprofit medical co-operatives, which are popular in some Midwestern states and more palatable to conservatives. But outrage by liberals supporting a government plan has made the fate of that provision unclear.
Where this POS reporter refers to "Mr. McCain" s/b "Senator McCain". Thanks neverdem.
81 posted on 08/23/2009 6:53:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: neverdem

McShame - There is NO compromise. You are a lame duck senator, how does that grab you?


82 posted on 08/23/2009 6:59:35 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: neverdem

Juan McCain is an evil idiot.


83 posted on 08/23/2009 7:00:15 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: rabscuttle385

Ping... looks like the ole RINO is ready to “compromise” principles (again) for 0bamaCare. No butt too dirty to smooch.


84 posted on 08/23/2009 7:28:27 PM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: Boiling Pots; kabar
So, you want the entire subject to change.

How obtuse can you be? You believe that Republicans should pretend to work out a deal just so the media won't think their meanies?

I don’t want the subject changed. The Republicans are playing this perfectly. Shouting from the rooftops that “no way, no how, we’re ever going to have a bill” would be stupid, and make THEM and not the bill and Obama’s constant bumbling the issue.

That's how the public feels though - no way, no how! THEY DON'T WANT THIS BILL. It makes no sense politically, for the Republicans to try and help pass this (even if it is for show). Especially considering that the Republican proposals have been completely ignored by the Dems.

85 posted on 08/23/2009 7:50:23 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("It (Gov't) can't make you happier, healthier, wealthier, and wise" - Sarah Palin 07/26)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I never said they should support THIS bill. I don’t think they should ultimately support any bill, but to stubbornly say that, they’ll look like children, and that would change the subject.


86 posted on 08/23/2009 8:02:48 PM PDT by Boiling Pots (Evil-Mongering Angry Mobster)
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To: neverdem

NO. No compromise, just NO!


87 posted on 08/23/2009 8:24:01 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: neverdem

OMG. He took the bait again.


88 posted on 08/23/2009 8:32:53 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: samadams2000

He’s so stupid they don’t even bait the hook anymore, just toss into the light and the glint causes him to leap for it.


89 posted on 08/23/2009 8:35:32 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: longtermmemmory
How the heck did someone so STUPID become a fighter pilot?

According to the pilots I know, McCain's Daddy had quite a lot of pull. He graduated last in his class and crashed two aircraft, plus caused a blackout in Spain when he was screwing around and flew through some power lines. Some pilot.

90 posted on 08/23/2009 9:02:51 PM PDT by ponygirl
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To: neverdem

Geez, would somebody throw a net over that SOB already!!!

There’s a helluva lot more wrong with that piece of crap bill than just the government option, which ultimately is no option.

The number one thing we should be talking about is the fact that congress has exempted itself and federal employees from the bill. The second thing we should be talking about are the provisions that obligate taxpayers to fund pruvate union health care and pensions. The third thing we should be talking about is that illegals are not excluded from receiving health care under the bill and that abortion is not excluded. Unless something is specifically excluded, it’s not excluded.

McCain needs to STFU about compromises. I am so sick of him I really could scream.


91 posted on 08/23/2009 9:23:31 PM PDT by bustinchops
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To: longtermmemmory
How the heck did someone so STUPID become a fighter pilot?

In a point of historical accuracy, he wasn't a fighter pilot, but a ground attack pilot. Nevertheless he should have washed out of flight training, but being the son, and grandson, of naval admirals had something to do with it...

the infowarrior

92 posted on 08/23/2009 10:30:43 PM PDT by infowarrior
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To: neverdem
Can't this moron get it through his senile brain that there is no room for "compromise" with marxists.
93 posted on 08/23/2009 11:15:59 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Boiling Pots
I never said they should support THIS bill. I don’t think they should ultimately support any bill, but to stubbornly say that, they’ll look like children, and that would change the subject

I agree with what you've been saying throughout this thread- from a public relations standpoint, it's bad politics to look like a pack of braying, naysaying obstructionists. Republicans do indeed need to appear to be offering the dems some smart, saner reforms which would actually fix the problems rather than reward the federal government for its disastrous mishandling of medicare & medicaid by handing it everything else it hasn't yet screwed up. Absolutely! In fact pubbies have BEEN doing that, though they don't get any traction with the state run media which is pushing Obama's bill.

The problem is here we're not talking about generic republicans adapting a 'reasonable', flexible attitude for the sake of public relations in this battle.

We're talking about John Sidney McCain, a card-carrying member of his very own party of one who's never met a problem he didn't think a massive government program designed by his BFFs across the aisle wouldn't fix. What he's saying here is NOT just for the benefit of enhacing Rebublicans' political negotiating position. Not on your life!

Nope, this man is going to get his name on the 2009 McCain-Kennedy-Feingold-Lieberman Health Act if it kills him, by golly, and he doesn't care if he has to screw Republicans, the elderly or his country to get his name on it or any other bill for that matter, no matter how truly rotten it is.

In fact, just so long as there's even a little bit of space on the top of the page where he can squeeze in his name in there somewhere, McCain is good to go as one of its sponsors & he doesn't care one whit what's actually in it!

Now, if some other Republican had said he was considering the bill without x,y or z component, we could probably trust him that he's just playing to the press for the sake of appearing deliberative & wasn't really going to sign his name to a dem turkey like Obamacare & help the dems share the blame with the repubs for the disastrous consequences which will likely ensue from their legislative malfeasance.

It's just that, given McCain's ignominious history of saddling the citizens with some of the worst, most boneheaded 'compromise' legislation ever crafted in the history of this Republic (see: McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy, McCain-Lieberman etc etc et al ad nauseum), we KNOW only too well we can't expect that this man will do what's right for the American people if it means he must forego getting any bill-naming 'glory'. That's just who this man is, unfortunately. That's the sum total of his ideology (emphasis on the id.)

IOW, I don't think any of us here would be averse at all to another Republican making politically smart conciliatory-sounding noises about trying to find common ground with POTUS & the dem majority for the good of the nation yadayada as you correctly suggested is wise, it's just John McCain in particular who makes us scream 'BOHICA!' when he even starts talking this way about 'compromise'.

We've all just seen this movie too many times before, unfortunately.

94 posted on 08/23/2009 11:16:37 PM PDT by leilani
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To: GeronL; wardaddy; Joe Brower; Cannoneer No. 4; Criminal Number 18F; Dan from Michigan; Eaker; ...
Oh Crap. Rhe RINO’s are ready to sell out the nation, AGAIN

I don't know. McCain likes to hear himself talk. The rats nominally have the votes to do this all by themselves, but they got their majority in Congress by making false pretenses since 2006. Saying no "Public Option" makes the marxists go bonkers.

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95 posted on 08/24/2009 12:11:49 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

96 posted on 08/24/2009 12:36:41 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."-Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: neverdem

“McCain Says Public Option Must Be Dropped for Compromise”

Little f*ckhead’s just trying to get re-elected.


97 posted on 08/24/2009 4:13:34 AM PDT by Grunthor
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To: SunkenCiv

McCain wants a “compromise”.......just like in 2008 when he kept talking about standing for “regular Americans” and being a “maverick” against the “big boys”, then when the bailout for the fat cats was up for vote in the Senate, he stopped campaigning to zip back to DC to vote for the fat cat bailout with his Senate “colleagues”. Look out for another Johnny stab-in-our-back.


98 posted on 08/24/2009 4:58:51 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies - C.S. Lewis)
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To: neverdem

WE DON’T WANT COMPROMISE!!!

We want things like TORT REFORM.

And RINOs that disappear.


99 posted on 08/24/2009 5:06:41 AM PDT by MortMan (Stubbing one's toes is a valid (if painful) way of locating furniture in the dark.)
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To: GeronL; kabar; neverdem
Oh Crap. Rhe RINO’s are ready to sell out the nation, AGAIN

We don't want a compromise. The public option is not the only thing wrong with ObamaCare.

Thanks for the ping, neverdem. Posts #2 and #3 pretty well sum up the situation for me.

100 posted on 08/24/2009 8:22:56 AM PDT by PGalt
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