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Rush Tells Beck: 'It Is the Most Dangerous Time in My Life for Freedom and Liberty'
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Posted on 08/27/2009 7:46:10 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Rush Tells Beck: 'It Is the Most Dangerous Time in My Life for Freedom and Liberty' By Noel Sheppard Created 2009-08-27 10:28

"This whole administration is as radical and far left as any that the country has ever had. What they're trying to do here to communications is simply stifle dissenting voices. They're trying to wipe out any opposition...And the things that he is talking about doing -- and I watched your show for the first half hour today -- and the things he is talking about doing to shut down radio are simply un-American...It is a dangerous time. It is the most dangerous time in my life for freedom and liberty in this country."

So said conservative talk radio host Rush Limbaugh to Fox News's Glenn Beck Wednesday evening.

What follows are some highlights of this discussion about how the Obama administration is attempting to silence free speech in a country that was founded on such a principle (video embedded below the fold with full transcript):

* LIMBAUGH: This whole administration is as radical and far left as any that the country has ever had. What they're trying to do here to communications is simply stifle dissenting voices. They're trying to wipe out any opposition. * LIMBAUGH: If you look at Barack Obama and his track record as a politician, it is to clear the playing field. He doesn't like to debate his opponents. He just wants to get rid of them. This diversity czar comes from a fringe radical, Saul Alinsky type of background. And the things that he is talking about doing -- and I watched your show for the first half hour today -- and the things he is talking about doing to shut down radio are simply un-American. * LIMBAUGH: They can't go Fairness Doctrine because it's too obvious. So they're doing this backdoor route with diversity, and ownership, 100 percent tax on operating, in order to pay public radio, because they're supposedly fair. It's insidious. * LIMBAUGH: There are reasons for optimism, but you are right. It is a dangerous time. It is the most dangerous time in my life for freedom and liberty in this country. * LIMBAUGH: The whole concept of reporting has gone out the window. I call it a state-controlled media, because it is what they are. They are just repeaters. They take dictation from Rahm Emanuel, for the most part, and they simply run with it. * LIMBAUGH: They're not reporting - in fact, Glenn, this is a great point, how is it that people know what is in the healthcare bill? The press isn't telling them. How is it that people know some of the plans the administration has? The drive-by media is not telling anybody anything. They are discombobulated. I saw Chuck Todd the other day go ballistic because too many people are doing news now that are not journalist, that are not qualified, and infecting people's opinions in the media, and so forth. These people are - it's embarrassing. I think they have met their Waterloo, and their Waterloo is Obama.

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GLENN BECK, HOST: Freedom of speech is under attack. Tomorrow night, I'm going to show you the thugs and the army that is being built, right under our noses. Now, joining me on the phone is radio talk show host, Mr. Rush Limbaugh.

RUSH LIMBAUGH, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: Glenn Beck, how are you, sir?

BECK: Very good, sir. I want to play something for you. I don't know if you just saw it, but I want to play it again. This is the new diversity officer for the FCC, a newly created position. This is what he said, at a speech, or talk he was giving about Chavez's Venezuela, and how the media work down there. Watch this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MARK LLOYD, FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION: In Venezuela, with Chavez really had an incredible revolution, a democratic revolution, and to begin to put in place, saying that we're going to have an impact on the people of Venezuela, the property owners and the folks who were then controlling the media in Venezuela rebelled. Work, frankly, with the folks here in the U.S. government, worked to oust him and came back had another revolution. And Chavez then started to take the media very seriously in this country.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BECK: Rush, I find that breathtaking.

LIMBAUGH: I find the whole administration breathtaking, Glenn.

I mean, you are doing a great job this whole week, I saw Sarah Palin even Tweeted about what you are doing, urging people to watch. This whole administration is as radical and far left as any that the country has ever had. What they're trying to do here to communications is simply stifle dissenting voices. They're trying to wipe out any opposition.

If you look at Barack Obama and his track record as a politician, it is to clear the playing field. He doesn't like to debate his opponents. He just wants to get rid of them. This diversity czar comes from a fringe radical, Saul Alinsky type of background. And the things that he is talking about doing -- and I watched your show for the first half hour today -- and the things he is talking about doing to shut down radio are simply un-American.

Not to say that it is not constitutional, it is simply un-American. And make no bones about it, folks, Glenn is right, when I think he is maybe underselling it a bit as far as their intentions are concerned, the still stimulus plan.

Glenn, look at what they're doing to the U.S. economy. Anyone with a sense of economic literacy would know this is not how you create jobs. Do you not rebuild the private sector. This is being done on purpose! All of these disasters are exactly what Obama wants. The more crises, the better, the more opportunity for government to say, let us in. and fix the problem. And his number one opposition is on radio and FOX News, his number one opposition is on radio. They can't go Fairness Doctrine because it's too obvious. So they're doing this backdoor route with diversity, and ownership, 100 percent tax on operating, in order to pay public radio, because they're supposedly fair. It's insidious.

I don't think it is going to work in the end, because the American people are too informed, Glenn. They're too aware of it. Their radio means too much to them. Their free speech, freedom in general, means way too much to them. Just as they're fighting back on healthcare and a number of other things, so will they fight back on this.

BECK: Rush, tomorrow on this program, I'm going to lay out the case of the army that they are building right underneath our nose, and an army that he spoke about on the campaign trail. And if you watch the - what could only could be called the organization's -- or the administration's organ, anything involved with GE, or NBC, you've got now Jeffrey Immelt on the board of the Federal Reserve. You have him in the Oval Office consulting not only on healthcare but the financial situation, and they are an organ.

If you watch MSNBC, I contend, that you will see the future, because they are laying the ground for a horrible event that will be -- what they're laying the ground for, anything from the right, there's some awful event, and I fear this government, this administration has so much framework already prepared that they will seize power overnight, before anybody even gives it a second thought.

LIMBAUGH: Well, I think because of what you are doing with your television show, your radio show, what we're all doing here, I don't think they will be able to seize it overnight without anybody knowing about it. And you talk about the organized groups that they have got. Let's look at the healthcare situation. What's happening right now, the genuine passion, the real passion is in individual Americans' hearts and minds, individuals are showing up. They may be going to the web to find out where these town halls are, but they're showing up because individually they don't want any part of this.

The Obama army has to be bought and paid for. The Obama army has to be given marching orders. The Obama army is not showing up with any passion for Obama's issue, which is healthcare. They're showing up because they have been instructed to by bosses.

Now, this army that you are going to reveal tomorrow is probably going to be much the same way. I'm going to tell you something, Glenn, passion, love of country, truth is going to outmaneuver and overpower fake passion, trumped up people, who are just given marching orders and sent out to act in a certain way.

I'm really - you know, we maybe looking at Barack Obama destroying the Democratic Party. It's too soon to say that now. But we may be looking at that happen. There are reasons for optimism, but you are right. It is a dangerous time. It is the most dangerous time in my life for freedom and liberty in this country.

BECK: I will tell you, a lot of people would say, that's Rush Limbaugh, this is hyperbole, et cetera, et cetera. But would you agree with me, Rush, that this is not conservatives or Republicans, or Independents, talking about this because they don't like Barack Obama. These are Americans. I'm an American. I'm speaking to you as an American. This is bad for anyone, unless you're in the power circle. You don't want to go down this road with what they're proposing with the FCC.

LIMBAUGH: No -- well, I don't want to go down the road with anything they're proposing on anything, Glenn. But you ask an interesting question. Are people going to react to you or me simply because -well, it's hyperbole. It's what these guys do. My first hour yesterday was chronicling how this man is systematically dismantling our ability to gather intelligence to protect ourselves against an attack. He is purposely using his attorney general to make the United States the villain of the world.

I'm going to tell you, folks, from the bottom of my heart, I am uncomfortable thinking and saying these things about a man who's been elected president of the United States. It is terribly upsetting and disconcerting. And I wish I didn't think it. And I wish I didn't have to say it, but there's no way to sugarcoat it.

This is not politics as usual. This is not left versus right. This is not Republican versus Democrat. This is statism, totalitarianism versus freedom. And if these people are allowed to go where they want to go unchecked, then some people, a lot of people - I don't think half the country, but close - will wake up one day and find my God, what the hell happened? Because this is not what they voted for. This is not their intention of this.. They thought they were getting something entirely different.

It is a responsibility we all have, being honest, and earnest to inform people of what these possibilities are, because they are very real.

BECK: More with Rush Limbaugh, next.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MARK LLOYD, FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION: In Venezuela, with Chavez really had an incredible revolution, a democratic revolution, to begin to put in place, saying that we're going to have an impact on the people of Venezuela, the property owners and the folks who were then controlling the media in Venezuela rebelled. Work, frankly, with the folks here in the U.S. government, worked to oust him and came back had another revolution. And Chavez then started to take the media very seriously in this country.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BECK: America, I want to - first of all, I want thank the watchdog for bringing that video to my attention. You can be a watchdog. Just Tweet me whenever you see things like this, but I have to ask you an honest effort here. I need you to scour the Internet and hook for all the people involved with this government giving speeches and listen to them. And then pull them off and archive them yourself. Pull them off on to your own computer, because I think things could get scrubbed quickly.

We're back with radio talk show host, Mr. Rush Limbaugh.

Rush, when I see this comment from him, and yesterday we were all on Van Jones, an avowed Communist, self-avowed Communist, Marxist, Revolutionary, advising the president of the United States. Holdren, our science czar, he comes out and he says you don't have a right to, you know, a number of children. If you want to have three children, there's no right in the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence, if the government says there's only two children.

Where is the true outrage from anyone in the media? Why are these things not grabbing traction at this point?

LIMBAUGH: Well, that doesn't surprise me. The whole concept of reporting has gone out the window. I call it a state-controlled media, because it is what they are. They are just repeaters. They take dictation from Rahm Emanuel, for the most part, and they simply run with it.

It is who they are, too. They think, Glenn, at the end of all this, that they're going to be in the elite circle. They think they will be untouched by any of this. They think the Fairness Doctrine attack, or the attack on radio, will leave them alone.

My father used to tell me, when I was growing up, and my brother, when he was trying to warn me of the threat posed by Soviet Communism and he told me about the media. He said these people are fools, don't they understand they will be the first ones shut up? If this kind of thing ever happens in this country.

I think it is just hero worship. I think, a lot of these people, a lot of them come out of the civil rights era. This presidency is symbolical to them. It is historical. They're not reporting - in fact, Glenn, this is a great point, how is it that people know what is in the healthcare bill? The press isn't telling them. How is it that people know some of the plans the administration has? The drive-by media is not telling anybody anything. They are discombobulated. I saw Chuck Todd the other day go ballistic because too many people are doing news now that are not journalist, that are not qualified, and infecting people's opinions in the media, and so forth.

These people are - it's embarrassing. I think they have met their Waterloo, and their Waterloo is Obama.

BECK: When I warned on the Patriot Act, which I was for as long as it had serious sunsets, and as many booby traps in that thing as possible. I warned at the time, and I was really conflicted because you don't want to give the government this kind of power. The kind of power that this government has right now is staggering.

Rush, they tried to go after you, with Timothy McVeigh, and tried to enact all of these things. Is it different now? Are you at all fearful? Or do you have any fear that these things will come to pass?

LIMBAUGH: Well, I do. And I take it seriously that they're going to try, but you know, Glenn, they have tried a number of things with me over the years. You mentioned McVeigh. They tried to blame me, Clinton did, for the Oklahoma City bombing. And they have routinely gone after me, but they haven't been able to shake anything away. And the reason is the bond of loyalty that I have with my audience. I have total credibility with the audience. It is an audience that continues to grow despite all of the new conservative shows on radio and television.

And all of us, in conservative media, have that bond with our audience. And the effort to discredit us is always going to fail. It will always fail as long as we remain true to who we are and don't disappoint our audiences in any way, in terms of substance and being serious about what we really believe.

So I'm confident that this can be beaten back. If I weren't, you know what, Glenn? I'd pack it all in, and I'd spend my money before they take it. And I would go and enjoy the rest of what my life is going to be.

BECK: That's quite a shopping spree! Can I come with you?

(LAUGHTER)

LIMBAUGH: I've got plenty of room.

BECK: Mr. Limbaugh, thank you very much.

LIMBAUGH: It's always a pleasure, Glenn. Thanks for having me. One of these days I have to do this on camera, since I have lost all this weight, I've got to show you how I look.

BECK: I think he's hitting on me? I think he's saying, "I'm a sexy, sexy man."

(LAUGHTER)

BECK: Rush, thank you very much. We'll talk to you again.


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To: himno hero

“They will collect the guns and its over.”

‘Collect’...That word implies that there are willing participants. So if, IF they come to your door, are you going to peacefully turn over what you have? Or are you going to determine in your mind, at that moment, hell no! I will NOT hand over anything!
I’m in the latter group.


51 posted on 08/27/2009 9:27:45 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Hey............How's that Hope and Change Thingy workin' for ya?)
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To: MsLady
They won’t have to, all they have to do is ban the sale of ammo.

If ammo had a shelf life comparable to milk, maybe. Otherwise, I don't think so.

Incidentally, just what will "they" be using in their firearms while they sweep the neighborhood looking for stuff to confiscate?

52 posted on 08/27/2009 9:33:48 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: Pride in the USA
Here's a transcript of Rush on the Glenn Beck show yesterday in case you missed it. I like everything about these two titans beginning a public conversation. The time may be coming, and coming fast, where they each need what the other has to offer. Glenn can keep Rush from blissfully scheduling tee times while Rome burns and Rush can keep Glenn from slitting his wrists. It's a good balance.

"It's always a pleasure, Glenn. Thanks for having me. One of these days I have to do this on camera, since I have lost all this weight, I've got to show you how I look."

Rush doesn't usually say things like this unless he's planning an eventual on-camera visit. If this happens it could cause some kind of freakish planetary alignment. :-)

53 posted on 08/27/2009 9:36:49 AM PDT by lonevoice (This tagline is identical to the one you are reading)
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To: Outlaw Woman

That’s easy to say until you’re staring down the barrel of a gun. If that time comes we’ll have to be willing to die for our liberties or more so the liberties of our fellow citizens.

I don’t know that i’m willing to participate in a shoot out where I’m going to be out numbered and out gunned at this point in my life. If they come to collect out guns the first few to resist will do so to thier death, I’m certain. Our country just isn’t ready to handle that IMHO. I don’t think either side is willing to kill or die at this point, I hope not!


54 posted on 08/27/2009 9:37:31 AM PDT by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Does anyone know if this interview is among the listed YouTube videos in this thread?

Glen Beck Shows on You Tube

55 posted on 08/27/2009 9:38:33 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Obama Garden Club: Nothing but plants.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

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56 posted on 08/27/2009 9:41:16 AM PDT by Billg64 (It is my belief that this is our last opportunity to peacefully protect our republic.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

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57 posted on 08/27/2009 9:41:19 AM PDT by Billg64 (It is my belief that this is our last opportunity to peacefully protect our republic.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Despite everything that Zero and his fellow socialists have tried to do, I remain optimistic about the future. The hue and cry raised at town hall meetings across this nation have proven that Americans aren't going to just lay down and die - they're asserting the Constitutional rights and opposing tyranny in numbers unimaginable just 6 short months ago.

I have a feeling that, at the end of Zero's term, he will be one of the most unpopular Presidents in history, and his lofty goals of turning America into a third-world socialist basket case will lie in ruins at his feet.

58 posted on 08/27/2009 9:45:33 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Welcome to the Revolution.)
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To: Sig Sauer P220
Maybe God will throw them out!!!! "If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and seek my face and turn from there wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land." 2 Chronicles 7:14
59 posted on 08/27/2009 9:55:37 AM PDT by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: Sig Sauer P220; 1rudeboy; Toddsterpatriot; Mase
"...an armed revolution. I see no other way."            "Throwing the bums out never seems to work...   ...So what other solution is there?"

Ah, you're serious.  

Well, lots of people hate democracy and try and take over by force, and I've chatted with a few in my travels in Latin America.   Before you actually put your thoughts into actions you might want to go visit and see first hand what life is like in an armed revolutionary war zone.   What happens is that getting back out of that kind of condition turns out to be a lot harder than it was getting in.

60 posted on 08/27/2009 10:36:04 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: GreyFriar

What we are seeing is the consolidation of power after a communist take-over.


61 posted on 08/27/2009 10:49:49 AM PDT by zot
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To: expat_panama; All
you might want to go visit and see first hand what life is like in an armed revolutionary war zone. What happens is that getting back out of that kind of condition turns out to be a lot harder than it was getting in.

Agreed. However, what do you about no peaceful due process, deleting The Constitution , disarming the citizenry, shutting down free speech and peaceful assembly, rigging the ballot box, jailing people who are "accused of being enemies of the state", etc.?

One has to weigh the results of what to be done. On one hand: communist take-over and no way to get our freedoms back OR some horrendous times to defend the country, The Constitution, ourselves and our families.

I think it's a no-brainer. Once a CommuFascit regime takes hold and destroys our democratic and capitalist institutions, there is no way to defeat them without a military coup that REMAINS benevolent and eventually, hands power back to civilians.

People who lived under dictatorships and Communist regimes will never let the Communists win, if they can help it.

62 posted on 08/27/2009 11:01:26 AM PDT by melancholy (Hey Marxists, don't Crap & Tread on me. Zer0's defeat is now in progress.)
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To: expat_panama
Well, lots of people hate democracy and try and take over by force, and I've chatted with a few in my travels in Latin America.

You need to pause and think of what you said. Latin America and the USA are quite different societies. Our Oligarchies operate in an environment where corruption is not endemic and wielded only by the politically connected. Numerically, in Latin America they are proportionally smaller as a prcentage of the population.

What we see in the US today is the middle class, and they can be relentless and overwhelming, when fired up enough. Your suggestion that they "hate democracy" is both repulsive and untrue.

The comparison is ignorant and mind-boggling absurd.

63 posted on 08/27/2009 12:09:08 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Obama Garden Club: Nothing but plants.)
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To: Publius6961
"...both repulsive and untrue.  The comparison is ignorant and mind-boggling absurd."

Absolutely right, what you're describing is truly absurd. 

You might want to reread what I posted as it seems we're talking about different things here.

64 posted on 08/27/2009 12:30:36 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: melancholy
"...what do you about no peaceful due process, deleting The Constitution , disarming the citizenry, shutting down free speech and peaceful assembly, rigging the ballot box, jailing people who are "accused of being enemies of the state", etc.?"

Great question, but I find it really hard to believe you're actually advocating what, violent revolution?

65 posted on 08/27/2009 12:35:45 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama
Great question, but I find it really hard to believe you're actually advocating what, violent revolution?

Violence against violence. You see union thugs and ACORNers intimidating and beating up conservatives, you answer in kind. You see them "controlling the ballot box, you forcibly throw them out. When 0b0z0 arms them and give them power as a civilian army, we better organize and do the same before they disarm and enslave us.

As you can see, your question doesn't scare me at all. Time for you to answer this question:

Are you advocating that we stay civil, as in town halls, while our reps ain't listening, while things leading to our enslavement are shoved down our throats? If not, what do you suggest we do?

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66 posted on 08/27/2009 12:59:25 PM PDT by melancholy (Hey Marxists, don't Crap & Tread on me. Zer0's defeat is now in progress.)
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To: MsLady

“They won’t have to, all they have to do is ban the sale of ammo.”

And the Volstead Act worked real well ;-)


67 posted on 08/27/2009 4:02:24 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: MsLady

I only did four but I remember my oath.


68 posted on 08/27/2009 4:08:21 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: TheKidster

It’s a frightening scenario, no question about it. I’m 50 and resent the hell out of having to even contemplate this (makes me want to take the stock of my rifle and bust some Obama voters in the skull) as I’ve always lived my life as one who feels we have the right to be LEFT ALONE.

But unfortunately these are choices that we have to make and if it does come down to it, there’s no question blood will be shed. But, even if I’m looking down the barrel I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees.


69 posted on 08/27/2009 4:30:48 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Hey............How's that Hope and Change Thingy workin' for ya?)
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To: melancholy
"...organize and do the same before they disarm and enslave us...   ...what do you suggest we do?"

My idea is to take life one day at a time, and right now on 27 Aug. everything's quiet outside.   When necessary, of course violence for self defense or defense of others is basic to human life, but to date there simply is no "power as a civilian army".  

I'm telling you that I've seen civilian armies organized and they're a joke.   OK, they kill people and all, but a professional army just brushes them aside; and members of our professional US Army are sworn to defend the Constitution.  While they're also ordered to obey the POTUS, everyone's clear that if ever the oath and an order were in conflict then it's the oath that takes precedence.

70 posted on 08/27/2009 5:52:51 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama
So, I ask you: what do you suggest we do?

Your answer:

My idea is to take life one day at a time, and right now on 27 Aug. everything's quiet outside.

Thanks, it's very soothing indeed to know how much you care.

The rest of your post is as worthless!

71 posted on 08/27/2009 6:22:09 PM PDT by melancholy (Hey Marxists, don't Crap & Tread on me. Zer0's defeat is now in progress.)
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To: meyer
“No bag limit either.” (BG)

Either sex hunt?

72 posted on 08/27/2009 6:37:42 PM PDT by Semper Mark (ObamaCare was exemplified in the last days of the life of his white grandmother.)
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To: Outlaw Woman
But unfortunately these are choices that we have to make and if it does come down to it, there’s no question blood will be shed. But, even if I’m looking down the barrel I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees.

Let's hope it doesn't ever come down to that!
73 posted on 08/28/2009 7:05:43 AM PDT by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: TheKidster
Like I said, I resent the hell out of being put in the position of even having to think about it; but thanks to the complete fools that voted for this, I must. Oppression/Tyranny starts in the mind by manipulating the thoughts and that part has begun.

Tomorrow is promised to noone.

74 posted on 08/28/2009 7:26:06 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Hey............How's that Hope and Change Thingy workin' for ya?)
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To: lonevoice

“Rush doesn’t usually say things like this unless he’s planning an eventual on-camera visit.”

Perhaps a television show is in the works?


75 posted on 08/28/2009 4:54:11 PM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: MsLady
Remember, Hussein Obama wants to create a 250,000 man
civilian security force that is as well-trained and well-
equipped as the US Military Forces.
76 posted on 08/28/2009 5:05:28 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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