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Military chief rips U.S. message to Muslims
msnbc ^ | 8/27/09 | Thom Shanker

Posted on 08/27/2009 10:15:13 PM PDT by Nachum

WASHINGTON - The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff has written a searing critique of government efforts at “strategic communication” with the Muslim world, saying that no amount of public relations will establish credibility if American behavior overseas is perceived as arrogant, uncaring or insulting.

The critique by the chairman, Adm. Mike Mullen, comes as the United States is widely believed to be losing ground in the war of ideas against extremist Islamist ideology.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chief; husseinobama; jointchiefs; mikemullen; military; mullen; muslimworld; rips; us

1 posted on 08/27/2009 10:15:14 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum
You can not ever, never reason with the mentally deranged, i.e Islamic Fascist, Liberals.
2 posted on 08/27/2009 10:18:16 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Nachum
The good General's time would be better spent plotting a coup. Over 90% of Americans would support him...
3 posted on 08/27/2009 10:20:21 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Nachum

No more coddling of Molly. Eff the muzzzzzlimz.


4 posted on 08/27/2009 10:20:49 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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To: April Lexington
Ok. Its late.... I meant Admiral. Sorry sailors!
5 posted on 08/27/2009 10:21:30 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Migraine

I hate to even mention it, but I think we are the next ones to be Effed. Its their turn...


6 posted on 08/27/2009 10:22:23 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Nachum
saying that no amount of public relations will establish credibility if American behavior overseas is perceived as arrogant, uncaring or insulting

Horsefeathers. It's being able and willing to do a smackdown on the Moose that gets their (grudging) respect.

7 posted on 08/27/2009 10:23:10 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Barack Obama is a political suicide bomber and the Rats are political arsonists.)
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To: April Lexington

I’ll pretend I didn’t hear that.


8 posted on 08/27/2009 10:26:46 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: HiTech RedNeck; Fred Nerks; LucyT

I think every American who goes in theater needs sensitivity training ( sarc.).

Can you believe his. It all started with the outing of
Coughlin, a consultant who was formulating the USN terror response policy,delineating the methods used by jihadists and how to protect against them.

Hesham Islam (sic), Englands butt buddy, and USN Deputy Sec. England conspired to get rid of Coughlin and his realistic approach, substitutiong it with this kind of defeatist liberal pap we see now.

You can read the whole background on how the USN got to this sordid weak place here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1997216/posts


9 posted on 08/27/2009 10:46:35 PM PDT by Candor7 (The weapons of choice against fascism are ridicule ,derision ,truth. (member NRA)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I say show them a vision of the bomb... That will give them the heart to show some respect...


10 posted on 08/27/2009 10:48:41 PM PDT by pennyfarmer (Your Socialist Beat our Liberal)
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To: Nachum

I am not sure that we didn’t lose this war on January 20, 2009.


11 posted on 08/27/2009 10:54:09 PM PDT by Gator113 (It's about stupidity, stupid. IMPEACH HERE, IMPEACH NOW.)
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To: Nachum

Islam is 100% extremist, confrontational and utopian natured in the darkest of ways ever known to mankind. It cannot stand without Jihad. The West celebrates Sharia Law thru banking...it cannot be separated as a tool for use and profit without accepting the rest of it. Like a bagged tranch of derivatives, it cannot be broken up for distribution. No wonder, UK took Churchill out of the textbooks since its conquering:

” “How dreadful are the curses which Islam lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

“A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property‹either as a child, a wife, or a concubine must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.

“No stronger retrograde force exists in the world.

“Far from being moribund, Islam is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science -the science against which it had vainly struggled -the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.”

~~ Sir Winston Churchill~~


12 posted on 08/27/2009 10:58:39 PM PDT by givemELL (Does Taiwan Meet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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To: Nachum

Enough of this “winning their hearts and minds” crap. Muslims have been waging war on the non-muslim world since their religion came into existence. Their religion orders them to give the infidels two choices, submit to Islam or dhimmintude and pay the jizya tax. That’s their idea of winning hearts and minds.
Where the hell is the reprocity they want a peaceful co-existence? What in the hell have they done to “win the hearts and minds” of those in the west that theirs is a religion of peace?


13 posted on 08/27/2009 11:00:04 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: Candor7
from the article:

The Muslim community “is a subtle world we don’t fully — and don’t always attempt to — understand,” he wrote. “Only through a shared appreciation of the people’s culture, needs and hopes for the future can we hope ourselves to supplant the extremist narrative.”

now let's try this:

The NAZI community “is a subtle world we don’t fully — and don’t always attempt to — understand,” he wrote. “Only through a shared appreciation of the people’s culture, needs and hopes for the future can we hope ourselves to supplant the extremist narrative.”

See? Hitler and his cabal were simply misunderstood...

14 posted on 08/27/2009 11:01:27 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Well stated, Fred.


15 posted on 08/27/2009 11:12:00 PM PDT by Diver Dave (Of all the things I've ever lost, I miss my mind the most)
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To: Fred Nerks
You are quite correct in this analogy. I cannot help but wonder what Americans are going to do with this disloyal "usurper."

Americans are long accustomed to peace. But I believe they awaken now, and I cannot predict what will happen.I do know things will likely get ugly and violent.

This is a sad time for America, but the fight is now delineated, and we know what we must do. We wait for a leader, but maybe we do not need one.

16 posted on 08/27/2009 11:12:23 PM PDT by Candor7 (The weapons of choice against fascism are ridicule ,derision ,truth. (member NRA)
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To: Nachum
Well sir, Adm. Mike Mullen you mind as well hand in your retirement papers in the morning. Your career has seen it's last promotion and Obama’s goons will be after you by the time the newspaper, if you still get one, lands on your front porch in the morning. I praise you Admiral Mullen but there is no fighting the Obama regime.
17 posted on 08/27/2009 11:38:03 PM PDT by antiunion person (PALIN for PRESIDENT 2012)
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To: Gator113

You took the words right out of my mouth.


18 posted on 08/28/2009 12:56:06 AM PDT by Dapper 26
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To: antiunion person

Quite the contrary, though Mullen may be packing his bags, speaking out does well for the country. It shows that some good men will put country before personal gain and may encourage more to question the CINC as is their duty at that level of command.


19 posted on 08/28/2009 1:00:50 AM PDT by Dapper 26
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To: antiunion person

Ummm...he’s at the top. He can’t get another promotion regardless.

Just sayin’


20 posted on 08/28/2009 4:36:13 AM PDT by KitJ (Shall Not Be Infringed)
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To: Nachum

“no amount of public relations will establish credibility if American behavior overseas is perceived as arrogant, uncaring or insulting.”

Admiral, you sound like our Communist “President” (really “pretender”)

If we want credibility overseas let’s speak with one sure and unwavering voice: “Freedom is our number one priority, and we will fight to the death to protect it. Any questions?”


21 posted on 08/28/2009 5:47:37 AM PDT by RoadTest (Let them all be confounded and turned back that hate Zion. Psalm 129:5)
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To: Nachum

The way I read this, the general seems to be saying that it is Americans causing the problems with the moslems! Crazy talk!


22 posted on 08/28/2009 7:37:01 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: Nachum

Mistake one, they hate us for who we are not what we do.

Mistake two, being liked is overrated which is why appeasement never works. Fear is a far better PR tool for deterrence.


23 posted on 08/28/2009 1:12:57 PM PDT by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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