Skip to comments.N.H. Court Orders Home-Schooled Girl into Public School
Posted on 08/27/2009 11:21:03 PM PDT by kingattax
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I’d be moving.
In fact, if the girl and her mother want to move into my house here in MI, where homeschool laws are easy, they are more than welcome to.
I have a 10 year old who would like a study mate.
What if the church she and her mother attends is brainwashing her into believing her father is evil because he won't become a member?
My first reaction was "lets get the pitchforks" no court should tell someone how much faith and belief they should have, but I don't think this is going on here. It is an action between the father and mother and looks like the child is being manipulated into a bad relationship with the father.
I would question the integrity of the Pastor.
I have already formed the opinion that the mother is a piece of dirt. She has custody most of the time and must have been promoting the use of faith in Jesus Christ as a tool to separate father and daughter.
There’s probably some court order against her leaving the state, as well.
So much for our freedoms.
If the court meant that the mother or the church were teaching animosity toward the father, they should have said specifically that and with examples.
Instead they paint this broad-brush, anti-religious statement, able to be useful in other venues, about how negative it is for churches to teach their members TRULY to believe the tenets of their faith (rigidity.)
If the court wants to say something, they shouldn’t beat around the bush.
If the court order doesn’t force her to stay in NH, leave, leave in 10 minutes.
The father will then lose the ability to see her unless he follows. Or can future Nazi state court order cross state lines.
Nothing good every emanates from family courts. Time to get rid of all laws regarding family affairs.
BTW: It seems that even when all parties have hired lawyers, in the family court cases, the lawyers all belong to the same country club. No lawyer will go up against a judge and mount a ‘real’ challenge. They all want to get along, accomplish nothing, and collect parent fees along the way.
If the daughter was in public school, was too drunk, too high, sleeping around or refusing to pay attention in a school setting, what would the judge do?
Order her home schooled, or into an Alternative School or into juvvie?
This newsreport simply does not provide enough info.
These are the kind of battles that were waged against Jehovah’s Witnesses and Pentacostals in Soviet Russia.
In a generation, the government has change from upholding the rights of individuals to forcing groupthink on the country.
Of course there is more going on here. Home schoolers are anathema to the left because they cannot propagandize them. I hope this family defies the court and dares it to put them in jail for educating their child as they deem appropriate.
Who gave the government the authority to determine school curriculum?
And the Judge would reply, "I am not a member of Congress. Therefore I will make any "law" I so deem fit."
In a normal circumstance the courts should have no say at whether the parents should home school their children, but in the event of a divorce or a child custody case the courts are called on to determine the best interests of the child regardless of the wishes of the parents.
I suppose that where the father insists on the girl going to public school and the mother insisting on homeschooling her that the judge could order the child cut in half so that one half could go to public school and the other half could be homeschooled, but unfortunately that would have had to have been done at the embryonic stage in order to be successful.
This is not really a freedom of religion issue, this is a selfish parents dispute where the child is a pawn in a divorce proceeding.
If I were the judge and I was convinced that the child was being homeschooled by a bitter wife who had a vendetta against her husband and the husband had requested the child be sent to public school then I don't think I would have ruled differently. While certainly a public school environment is not spiritually friendly, neither is being indoctrinated 24 hours a day by a vengeful mother a very spiritually friendly environment either. The child will eventually grow to hate her father because her mother has taught her to do so, or hate her mother for hating her father.
So without the option of cutting the child in half, the judge had to make a decision that was going to make someone mad. And she did.
You read the secret code!
No. We're positive that there is a lot more going on. The federal government wants to take your children away from you and indoctrinate them to be good little liberal lemmings. Lemmings that do not worship the one and only true and living God (Elohim) and that DO worship o-bomb-a-nation.
Yes... There is a LOT going on here.
Remember, the United States Supreme Court that has, in the past, ruled in favor of parents and our children no longer exists.
This was not an appellate case, but was nothing more than an interlocutory ruling by a family court judge. The judges generally don't even write the orders, the orders are drafted by the moving party and the judge simply approves or rejects the order that was drafted by the moving party.
It is only on appeal that the reasoning behind the order must be stated. But then only if the appeal has been granted.
Without the whole story, you are making very telling judgments of your own.
and she is now living with her mother who has been homeschooling the child since first grade. As part of the schooling, the young girl has been attending supplemental public school classes.
The girl is not being indoctrinated 24x7; she is being exposed to the public school environment already.
The parties worked out a custody agreement whereby all major decisions of the child were to be by joint agreement. This is what happens when one party decides they know best without going to court to modify the previous agreement. This happens all of the time and the court takes the path of least resistance in resolving the matter.
The mother can home school (debrief) the child after she gets home from the government school. I found with my boys that worked best for us as we had immediate examples to discuss our world view rather than abstract examples.
Nobody has the "whole story". My point is simply that when there is a divorce, the courts are called on to resolve disputes between the parents and to ultimately decide what is in the best interest of the child. This ruling is not applicable to home schooled children in general, but to this home schooled child in particular. The mother does not have the right to home school the child unless the father agrees. If there is a dispute about where the child is to attend school, then, where the family law courts have jurisdiction over the child, then the courts will make that decision.
They did it in this case. There is always one party that leaves Family Court angry. This time it was the mother.
The custody agreement gives the father rights as well. While I think he is being a jerk he still has some rights in how his daughter is raised.
“its clearly the non-custodial father is trying to mess up their lives.”
How do you know he is ‘trying to mess up her life’, he may genuinely believe its better for her.
No, your point was very clear. You feel like the mom was indoctrinating the child 24x7. When this was shown to not be true, you changed your point.
The same thing should hold true for the mom not wanting the child to be educated in a public school. If they can’t agree, the child shouldn’t be forced into a public school.
Funny about that “indoctrinating 24/7”, like it’s a bad thing:
5 Love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength. 6 These commandments that I give you today are to be upon your hearts. 7 Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. 8 Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads. 9 Write them on the doorframes of your houses and on your gates.
19 Teach them to your children, talking about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. 20 Write them on the doorframes of your houses and on your gates,
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