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Remnants of Iraq Air Force Are Found (19 MIG-21 and MIG-23 jet fighters stored in Serbia)
NY Times ^ | 8/30/09 | ROD NORDLAND

Posted on 08/30/2009 7:13:58 PM PDT by Libloather

Remnants of Iraq Air Force Are Found
By ROD NORDLAND
Published: August 30, 2009

BAGHDAD — Iraqi officials have discovered that they may have a real air force, after all.

The Defense Ministry revealed Sunday that it had recently learned that Iraq owns 19 MIG-21 and MIG-23 jet fighters, which are in storage in Serbia. Ministry officials are negotiating with the Serbs to restore and return the aircraft.

The Serbian government has tentatively promised to make two of the aircraft available “for immediate use,” according to a news release from the ministry. The rest would be restored on a rush basis, the ministry said.

An Iraqi delegation went to Serbia as part of an effort by the government to locate assets stashed abroad by Saddam Hussein to evade sanctions. Serbia had had friendly relations with Mr. Hussein’s government.

During that visit, Serbian defense officials told the Iraqis that Mr. Hussein had sent 19 fighter jets to Serbia for repairs in the late 1980s, during the Iran-Iraq war, but was unable to bring them back after sanctions were imposed on his country.

Iraq immediately sent a technical delegation, led by the air force chief, Gen. Anwar Mohammed Amin.

The Web site of the Iraqi Supreme Islamic Council, the leading Shiite political party, quoted the Defense Ministry spokesman Mohammed al-Askari as saying that the aircraft had been sent in 1989 “for maintenance, and everything was paid for by Iraq’s money.” Mr. Askari said the discovery was important because Iraq had no jet aircraft with defensive or offensive capabilities. “Our air force only has helicopters,” he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airforce; fighters; iraq; mig21; mig23; serbia

1 posted on 08/30/2009 7:13:58 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

The CIA had no idea all these jets were sent to Serbia?

What the heck are we paying for?


2 posted on 08/30/2009 7:17:06 PM PDT by jdfromny (At what point are we officially "North Americans"?)
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To: Libloather

Stockpiles of WMD are probably stored in a warehouse next door.


3 posted on 08/30/2009 7:18:11 PM PDT by FoxInSocks (B. Hussein Obama: Central Planning Czar)
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To: jdfromny

Kind of makes you wonder about WMD and stuff? Hummmmmm


4 posted on 08/30/2009 7:19:16 PM PDT by WHBates
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To: Libloather
MiG-25 at the National Museum of the US Air Force

Found in the sand in 2003.
5 posted on 08/30/2009 7:21:36 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: jdfromny

I would guess they knew, but the ones who did are probably long gone.


6 posted on 08/30/2009 7:22:57 PM PDT by Palmettomom
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To: Libloather

Who’d pay to restore a MiG 21 - except, perhaps a collector of antique planes?


7 posted on 08/30/2009 7:24:13 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35
Who’d pay to restore a MiG 21 - except, perhaps a collector of antique planes?

If you ain't got any jets in your air force, as the Iraqis don't, I guess these are better than nothing. Not much better, but better.

8 posted on 08/30/2009 7:30:49 PM PDT by squidly
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To: Libloather

Path to riches: take out a BIG insurance policy on a pilot — and volunteer him to fly a Serb “restored” MIG-21 from Serbia to Iraq....


9 posted on 08/30/2009 7:38:59 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: Libloather

We spent piles of loot making Iraq free, and I think we should have those aircraft available for OpFor exercises at Fallon, or down at Las Vegas, or something.

We could have our guys learn a lot of stuff —MANY nations still fly that old crap.


10 posted on 08/30/2009 7:43:18 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

whew. We spent 1 trillion to invade and rebuild the country and this is IT?


11 posted on 08/30/2009 7:47:34 PM PDT by londonfog
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To: gaijin; Libloather
MiG21s are not a bad bird. Sorta like a really nice 1975 Olds 442 of the air. It's had a longer production run than anything except the VW, and in good hands, is still fairly capable.

The MiG 23 is an OK fighter.little bit of bomber, and is only a decade or so behind the times.

12 posted on 08/30/2009 7:54:13 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Congratulations Obama Voters! You are not prejudiced. Unpatriotic, maybe. Dumb definitely.)
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To: gaijin; Libloather
MiG21s are not a bad bird. Sorta like a really nice 1975 Olds 442 of the air. It's had a longer production run than anything except the VW, and in good hands, is still fairly capable.

The MiG 23 is an OK fighter.little bit of bomber, and is only a decade or so behind the times. the real question is that with all our money in their pockets, can't we sell them somethiung?

13 posted on 08/30/2009 7:55:44 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Congratulations Obama Voters! You are not prejudiced. Unpatriotic, maybe. Dumb definitely.)
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To: Libloather

And where do you think the Weapons of Mass destruction go.....


14 posted on 08/30/2009 7:57:24 PM PDT by martinidon
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To: Libloather

Great start for their museum.


15 posted on 08/30/2009 8:16:07 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Libloather

16 posted on 08/30/2009 8:21:41 PM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked

Iraq’s MIGs went to Serbia.

The WMD went to Syria.

The US government knew this.


17 posted on 08/30/2009 8:38:29 PM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama - The wolf in the suit.)
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To: Libloather

Just like Rangel and all other Democrats, they can’t remember the location of National assets.
Next to be found-WMD (Bagdad Bob on TV-Oh! those WMD’s)


18 posted on 08/30/2009 9:16:32 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: Rapscallion

Syria gave us some of the chemical weapons. What was it - 20 tonnes?


19 posted on 08/30/2009 9:21:07 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: jdfromny
We knew about this.

But the NY Slimes only just found out.
Hence the publication delay.... ;)
20 posted on 08/30/2009 9:29:36 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: gaijin

we know!!!


21 posted on 08/30/2009 11:56:11 PM PDT by Atchafalaya (f)
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To: PAR35

The Mig-21 was probably the most common Iraqi fighter and the one most pilots and technicians are still familiar with. Not to forget that you have plenty of upgrade packages available. Cost effective while they wait for their new F-16s.


22 posted on 08/31/2009 1:58:25 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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