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As hybrid cars gobble rare metals, shortage looms
Reuters on Yahoo ^
| 8/31/09
| Steve Gorman
Posted on 08/31/2009 8:58:12 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
Not only that, but it takes more energy to build a Prius than it does to make a Hummer H3.
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posted on
08/31/2009 12:29:14 PM PDT
by
RoadTest
( Confounded be all they that serve graven images, that boast themselves of idols - Psalm 97:12a)
To: headsonpikes; Willie Green; 1rudeboy; Mase; Toddsterpatriot
The Chinese manipulate the prices of these rare earths to discourage development of alternate sources...Ah HA! They lower the price by fiat and that means they're dumping rare-earths on the US market!
We're DOOMED!
To: rahbert
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posted on
08/31/2009 1:50:44 PM PDT
by
Toddsterpatriot
(Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
To: expat_panama
Quick! Where do we get our hands on some of them thar rare earths? Sounds like a good investment. They are rare after all.
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posted on
08/31/2009 2:53:08 PM PDT
by
Mase
(Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
To: expat_panama; headsonpikes
Ah HA! They lower the price by fiat and that means they're dumping rare-earths on the US market!
If you had bothered to read headsonpikes' post, you'd know that the Chinese were raising the price by restricting rare-earth exports, not "dumping" them on the US market.
Sheeeesh....
To: Willie Green; Mase; 1rudeboy
If you had bothered to read headsonpikes' post, you'd know that the Chinese were raising the price The Chinese manipulate the prices of these rare earths to discourage development of alternate sources
Now maybe you'll explain how manipulating the prices, by raising them, would be discouraging alternate sources?
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posted on
08/31/2009 3:13:23 PM PDT
by
Toddsterpatriot
(Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
To: Toddsterpatriot
Now maybe you'll explain how manipulating the prices, by raising them, would be discouraging alternate sources?
Raising prices doesn't discourage alternate sources, dumping does.
They dumped in the past, forcing competition out of business.
Now that they have no competition, they jack up the prices and gouge the consumers.
If anybody else tries to enter the market, they'll simply undercut the price to eliminate the competition again... then they go back to gouging.
To: Willie Green; expat_panama
Raising prices doesn't discourage alternate sources, dumping does.That sounds familiar.
Ah HA! They lower the price by fiat and that means they're dumping rare-earths on the US market!
I'm glad you finally admitted expat_panama was right. You learn much faster than you used to.
68
posted on
08/31/2009 3:40:16 PM PDT
by
Toddsterpatriot
(Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
To: NormsRevenge
69
posted on
08/31/2009 5:33:41 PM PDT
by
Kevmo
(So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
To: Toddsterpatriot; Mase; Willie Green
Willie Green:
"...dumped in the past, forcing competition out of business. Now that they have no competition, they jack up the prices..."Steve Gorman: "China, the world's dominant rare earths producer, limits exports... ...One promising U.S. source is a rare earths mine slated to reopen in California by 2012."
--and the minute the mine opens, China will start dumping rare metals on the US market all over again. Well, actually, don't tell anyone but there really isn't any mine in California. It's just a fake cardboard set that's meant to fool the stupid chicoms into cutting prices.
To: expat_panama; Toddsterpatriot
Well, actually, don't tell anyone but there really isn't any mine in California. It's just a fake cardboard set that's meant to fool the stupid chicoms into cutting prices. The name of that town wouldn't be Rock Ridge now, would it?
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posted on
08/31/2009 7:36:34 PM PDT
by
Mase
(Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
To: expat_panama
...One promising U.S. source is a rare earths mine slated to reopen in California by 2012."
--and the minute the mine opens,
In your dreams...
If you think Obama is gonna reopen a Kalifornicator mine during his re-election campaign, then you're dumber than I thought you were. LOL!
To: Toddsterpatriot
I'm glad you finally admitted expat_panama was right. You learn much faster than you used to
And it looks like your attention deficit disorder hasn't improved any.
To: Mase; Willie Green
that town wouldn't be Rock Ridge now, would it?No that place got incorporated into an adjacent Indian reservation and now everyone speaks Yiddish.
Come to think of it, we laugh about these old movies but that's where the whole "dumping --competition out of business --jack up the prices..." routine comes from. In the real life what happens is them that works hard comes out on top and the underachievers cry HEY NO FAIR NO FAIR!!.
To: Willie Green
How's anti-Freeping been treating you lately?
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posted on
09/01/2009 5:36:20 AM PDT
by
Toddsterpatriot
(Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
To: Toddsterpatriot
LOL! Thanks for the reminder... I had just about forgotten about that...
The truth is, the endless soap opera just ain't as exciting as it was back in the good ol' days...
But now that you mention it, it would be nice to have a "bozo filter" here at FR...
that is a really handy feature to have... you simply put the bozo into an available slot and waalaa!!! it's as if they don't exist!!!
Sure saves a lot of aggravation not having to put up with the same line of BS day after day, month after month, year after year.
Yep... it's a crying shame FR doesn't have one of those.
Believe me... it sure could use one...
Probably save Jimmy a lot of aggravation and grief too!
To: Willie Green
Sure saves a lot of aggravation not having to put up with the same line of BS day after dayYeah, having your silly errors corrected day after day must be aggravating. Sorry about your anti-Freepers.
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posted on
09/04/2009 9:24:58 AM PDT
by
Toddsterpatriot
(Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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