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RED ALERT: White House Has Secret Plan To Harvest Personal Data From Social Networking Websites
National Legal and Policy Center ^ | August 31, 2009 | Ken Boehm

Posted on 09/02/2009 3:38:34 AM PDT by PowerPro

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To: publana
You would have to be an idiot to post hate mail to a White House site. But sadly, this program is going to put the kibosh on anyone who wants to offer suggestions or to object to some initiative, because this Admin has already scared people too much for them to do anything but agree with them to their face.

Also, even if the White House tells the supplier to do something illegal, like hack into other accounts or collect keystrokes from non-White House sites, you have to believe a contractor would be too concerned about breaking the communications privacy laws. By the time the case played out, this Administration could be gone and the company would still be on the hook for using spyware.

101 posted on 09/02/2009 7:25:01 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("A cultural problem cannot be solved with a political solution." -- Selwyn Duke)
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To: Albion Wilde

The key phrase is “shall include.” The RFP does not expressly limit the data collection to messages sent only to EOP maintained pages.

Even if this really smelly program doesn’t have a much broader application planned—and I am not at all convinced they don’t—this is a hugely dangerous precedent. All government programs exploit to the max the tiniest loophole, and interpret even the tightest-range authority in its very broadest possible way. And that goes for all administrations. With this one, we’ve got a real problem on our hands.

I know your call for caution is not meant as a blanket defense, and your reasoned approach would make sense if we were dealing with an administration with a track record of restraint. But this administration has already given us ample reason to reject a default assumption of restraint and respect for individual liberties and personal privacy.

I simply do not trust these people. At all.


102 posted on 09/02/2009 7:31:31 AM PDT by Eroteme
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To: PowerPro
The contractor shall if possible, capture, store, extract to approved formats, and transfer content published by EOP on non-public websites. The contractor shall include in the information posted by non-EOP persons on publicly-accessible web sites where the EOP maintains a presence both comments posted on pages created by EOP and messages sent to EOP accounts on those web sites.

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I'm not interpreting this to mean they will capture and store all comments made by anyone about anything made on publically-accessible websites that the EOP has a presence on. I interpret this to mean they will capture and store comments made by non-EOP persons made directly to EOP created pages or sent to EOP accounts.

Before I get too chicken little here, where am I missing it where they'll be capturing and storing more than what is directed directly to the EOP?

Just seeking clarification. - OB1

103 posted on 09/02/2009 7:33:23 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (Extreme right-winged mob terrorist astroturfing bitter clinging racist birther evilmongering wingnut)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Is this only if you post to the WH pages on these sites?


104 posted on 09/02/2009 7:33:36 AM PDT by amutr22
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To: PowerPro

Imagine if Bush had done this


105 posted on 09/02/2009 7:35:23 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: MrPiper

It is illegal for the White House to collect data on the people of this country. It is also illegal to conspire to commit this crime. It is also illegal to destroy any records of data collection.

A reporter was trying to get Gibbs to say what he was doing with the records collected on the “spy on your neighbor” scandal who said something to the effect that they weren’t collecting information on people. But if they weren’t collecting it, then they must be destroying it, right?


106 posted on 09/02/2009 7:36:14 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Senator Edward Kennedy 1932-2009, May he rot in hell.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I’d be stunned if any reporter bothered asking Gibbs about this one.


107 posted on 09/02/2009 7:42:28 AM PDT by PowerPro (2009 - Conservative Revolution Reborn (Go Palin!))
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To: paulycy

Got any money left after taxes? The the zero considers you rich and intends to tax you into poverty.


108 posted on 09/02/2009 7:43:12 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Senator Edward Kennedy 1932-2009, May he rot in hell.)
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To: AFPhys; All

Check out this statement from the Request for Quote (RFQ) “section 2. Scope”:

“The contractor shall properly transfer the captured information, as identified by the EOP (Executive Office of the President), to NARA’s (National Archives and Records Administration) Electronic Records Archive and presentation at the the future Presidential Library.”

And a scarier statment from Section 4. Background:

“Currently, the Government team is capturing the data and content both programmatically (via Application Programming Interfaces (APIs) from social networks and manually (through daily screen shots). “

This is a huge data collection effort.

Oh, and Obama is planning his Presidential Library already.


109 posted on 09/02/2009 7:44:44 AM PDT by Never on my watch (Ted Kennedy was Fredo Corleone without the endearing qualities.)
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To: Never on my watch

So my question is, have they always collected data on people who write to the WH in any other form?


110 posted on 09/02/2009 7:47:27 AM PDT by amutr22
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To: amutr22

This isn’t about people writing to the White House...

It is about people communicating with each other about the White House.

The RFQ is scary in what it is clearly directing the contractor to do, but even worse is that it is vague enough to allow loop holes big enough to drive a truck through.

As I read it, they can collect any information they want.


111 posted on 09/02/2009 7:51:18 AM PDT by Never on my watch (Ted Kennedy was Fredo Corleone without the endearing qualities.)
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To: EmilyGeiger; All

Actual link to request information:

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=eec856940efb75b2b1c11e2b1d5660a4&tab=core&_cview=0&cck=1&au=&ck=

This is for the Executive Office of the President.

Here’s the summary:

“The contractor shall provide the necessary services to capture, store, extract to approved formats, and transfer content published by EOP on publicly-accessible web sites, along with information posted by non-EOP persons on publicly-accessible web sites where the EOP offices under PRA maintains a presence, throughout the term of the contract. The contractor shall if possible, capture, store, extract to approved formats, and transfer content published by EOP on non-public websites. The contractor shall include in the information posted by non-EOP persons on publicly-accessible web sites where the EOP maintains a presence both comments posted on pages created by EOP and messages sent to EOP accounts on those web sites. Publicly-accessible sites may include, but are not limited to social networking sites. The contractor shall provide a user-friendly way of organizing and searching captured information. The contractor shall properly transfer the captured information, as identified by EOP, to NARA in an acceptable format for both preservation in NARA’s Electronic Records Archive and presentation at the future Presidential Library. The Contractor shall provide a method to separate content posted by other EOP component offices as required.”


112 posted on 09/02/2009 7:53:09 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Eroteme

Excellent reply. I agree, they have forfeited trust.


113 posted on 09/02/2009 7:53:13 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("A cultural problem cannot be solved with a political solution." -- Selwyn Duke)
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To: TalonDJ

Yep, that is about the size of it.


114 posted on 09/02/2009 7:53:23 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Senator Edward Kennedy 1932-2009, May he rot in hell.)
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To: Never on my watch

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=eec856940efb75b2b1c11e2b1d5660a4&tab=core&_cview=0&cck=1&au=&ck=


115 posted on 09/02/2009 7:55:22 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Senator Edward Kennedy 1932-2009, May he rot in hell.)
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To: CSM
I am not nervous at all. I’m already on all of their lists!

The government knows more about me then I do. There is not a lot they can get that they don't already know. It is underhanded how the BO Admin is going about getting new info. I am already in the "system", and have been for years.

116 posted on 09/02/2009 7:56:21 AM PDT by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!!)
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To: PowerPro
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117 posted on 09/02/2009 7:57:41 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: silverleaf

Carnivore was implemented during the Clinton administration.


118 posted on 09/02/2009 7:59:56 AM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: PowerPro

lol did you get this from bloggers and personal?


119 posted on 09/02/2009 8:00:20 AM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: PowerPro; All

If you read toward the end of this, it appears this may only be for the specific White House pages on Facebook and Twitter, NOT the entire site because it speaks of being done on sites created by the EOP....obviously only their specific Facebook page was created by them etc.

Still bad, but not as bad as earlier appeared if this is the case. Looks like they may be doing it for records request archive purposes, but it could still be used for bad purposes, which is scary.

“The contractor shall provide the necessary services to capture, store, extract to approved formats, and transfer content published by EOP on publicly-accessible web sites, along with information posted by non-EOP persons on publicly-accessible web sites where the EOP offices under PRA maintains a presence, throughout the term of the contract. The contractor shall if possible, capture, store, extract to approved formats, and transfer content published by EOP on non-public websites. The contractor shall include in the information posted by non-EOP persons on publicly-accessible web sites where the EOP maintains a presence both comments posted on pages created by EOP and messages sent to EOP accounts on those web sites.”


120 posted on 09/02/2009 8:00:53 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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