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Will Boeing move to Beijing?
Daily Finance ^ | 08/31/09 | Peter Cohan

Posted on 09/03/2009 5:35:52 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220

Boeing (BA) CEO Jim McNerney is eager to move the company to China. Whether moving Boeing to China means shifting its headquarters from Chicago to Beijing is up in the air. But Boeing already has $600 million in supplier partnerships with China -- such as a deal with Shenyang Aircraft Corporation to build an assembly for the 787's vertical fin. And Stan Sorscher, who spent 20 years at Boeing before taking a post at the Society of Professional Engineers in Aerospace (SPEEA) in 2000, told me that engineers he spoke with believe that McNerney is hooked on the idea of shifting more of Boeing's aircraft development to China.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boeing; china
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Nothing like just handing over all the trade secrets to the enemy.
1 posted on 09/03/2009 5:35:52 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220
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To: Sig Sauer P220

Why would a company want to leave Chicago?


2 posted on 09/03/2009 5:38:10 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Sig Sauer P220

They will open a branch in China specifically geared to the Asian market.

I doubt the whole company will move.


3 posted on 09/03/2009 5:42:17 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Sig Sauer P220

Well obambi, here is your chance to help America. But then helping America is where obambi can’t go .....so Boeing will.


4 posted on 09/03/2009 5:43:51 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Impossible to move their Seattle and Everett facilities.


5 posted on 09/03/2009 5:45:27 AM PDT by Flightdeck (Go Longhorns)
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To: Sig Sauer P220

I’d like to see manufacturing move out of Washington state — just to stick it to the anti-business, anti-capitalist, and union thugs that love to hate that company.

Wyoming may be a good relo site.


6 posted on 09/03/2009 5:45:36 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Impeach President Bernanke.)
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To: NativeNewYorker
Why would a company want to leave Chicago?

Chicago paid Boeing about $63million to move about 500 headquarter jobs from Seattle about 8 years ago.

Maybe China is making a better offer.

7 posted on 09/03/2009 5:46:25 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is an EVIL like no other, and must be ERADICATED. Barack OBORTION is a close second.)
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Boeing has all but shut down the operations in Wichita....


8 posted on 09/03/2009 5:51:11 AM PDT by Concho (Tell all parents to keep their children home from school on Sept 8.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Or anyplace not dominated by 'Rats/unions. I'd prefer to see them relocate somewhere in this country in a more business-friendly state. That way make the company better, and stick it to 'Rat-dominated states like WA and IL.

It's already happening elsewhere. In my state iconic brands like NCR are leaving for greener pastures (Atlanta in the case of NCR). Others are just shuttering plants and facilities, like Chrysler and GM and DHL. But the 'Rats just blame the companies, never themselves or the unions. And the sheeple never blame Obama and the 'Rats, they just keep singing hosannas to the greater glory of The Won.

9 posted on 09/03/2009 5:54:04 AM PDT by chimera
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To: Sig Sauer P220
If Boeing moves its HQ to China, Daley's head will explode, he'll have a cardiac and die. He gave Boeing 'gazillions' in tax free incentives to come to Chicago. It won't help him land the 2016 Olympics either, a major Corp bailing on the city.

Hmmmm, can I help Boeing pack?

10 posted on 09/03/2009 6:03:11 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: FatherofFive

“We know what you are, madam. Now we’re just haggling over the price.”


11 posted on 09/03/2009 6:06:41 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: FatherofFive
Maybe China is making a better offer.

My guess would be Boeing is fleeing exceedingly high corporate tax rates, along with unions and unnecessary regulation on how they conduct business, like Sarbanes-Oxley. Boeing, and other companies like them, compete globally. It's tough enough to bring in customers, no matter how good your product is, when you have to pass along the second highest corporate tax rate in the world to those customers. Imagine having to deal with our corporate tax rate, the unions, and the cost of excessive gubmint regulation, all while trying to compete against gubmint subsidized Airbust. It's a recipe for disaster for American workers and it's 100% self inflicted by our own gubmint....almost like they want business to fail or move overseas, huh?

12 posted on 09/03/2009 6:12:20 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: Sig Sauer P220

So if the president said no, you can’t move, would that be ok or not?


13 posted on 09/03/2009 6:39:24 AM PDT by stuartcr (If we are truly made in the image of God, why do we have faults?)
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To: Thermalseeker

In a word: U-N-I-O-N-S

If the Dems succeed in increasing unionization in the U.S. it will cause havoc for most companies who rely on parts and raw materials from a variety of small, specialty suppliers.

You can’t plan production if you’re coping with one or more suppliers being on strike at any given time, thus interrupting your flow of raw materials/parts, not to mention the impossibility of predicting costs over any extended period of time (higher wages = higher parts costs).

The number of individual parts in a 747 is staggering. My Dad (now deceased) retired from being a purchaser of A/C parts for Boeing and handled the challenge of A/C parts long before computers kept track of all the items required.


14 posted on 09/03/2009 6:42:16 AM PDT by Happyinmygarden (Yes, actually, I have pretty much seen and heard it all before...)
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To: Sig Sauer P220
I am surprised that any multi-national company would remain headquartered in the US. Between the high US corporate tax rates and the law, unlike just about every other country, that taxes the difference between the local rate and the US rate on any foreign profits there isn't much reason to stay in the US.

About the only ones which would stay would be those which rely on the US military for protection and those who want to do business with the US government (like Boeing, hmmm?).

15 posted on 09/03/2009 7:00:56 AM PDT by KarlInOhio ("I can run wild for six months ...after that, I have no expectation of success" - Admiral Obama-moto)
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To: Happyinmygarden
The number of individual parts in a 747 is staggering. My Dad (now deceased) retired from being a purchaser of A/C parts for Boeing and handled the challenge of A/C parts long before computers kept track of all the items required

Yeah, I'm a pilot and I've built a couple of experimentals. The number of individual parts that go into something like my little Europa is staggering, not to mention the effort it took to build it. I can't imagine what it takes to keep up with the parts to build a 747, much less try to source them, then assemble that massive amount of parts into something that will enable you to commit aviation. With that in mind it's a bit disconcerting to think that now a good portion of that process is going to be handed over to the Chinese. The old Boeing moniker might change to "If it is Boeing, I ain't going"

The unions certainly are one large cog in the wheel, and no doubt the Dims are pulling out all the stops to save the unions. Union membership has been in steep decline for several decades and the Dims are clearly trying to stem that. However, you have to ask yourself "what side is the gubmint on?" when they levy 42% corporate tax rates, plus nonsense like Sarbanes-Oxley, and some of the more ridiculous OSHA regulations on companies trying to compete in the world market. It's one thing if everyone in the game is playing by the same rules, but that isn't the case in the global market, courtesy of Uncle Sugar. It's hard to tell if it's a well coordinated effort to run business off shore, or if it's stupidity run amok on the part of our elected "leaders".....

16 posted on 09/03/2009 7:05:56 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: Sig Sauer P220

bump


17 posted on 09/03/2009 7:10:35 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Sig Sauer P220

Does this mean that Boeing’s tax breaks in Chicago are going to expire?


18 posted on 09/03/2009 7:25:18 AM PDT by chainsaw (If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! -- P.J..)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

I’d like to see manufacturing move out of Washington state

Moving offices from Washington state to Chicago was no improvement.


19 posted on 09/03/2009 7:27:29 AM PDT by chainsaw (If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! -- P.J..)
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To: Condor51

Hmmmm, can I help Boeing pack?

Maybe we could take up a collection to help Boeing defray the cost of moving.


20 posted on 09/03/2009 7:35:58 AM PDT by chainsaw (If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! -- P.J..)
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