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Posted on 09/04/2009 11:36:07 AM PDT by Sibre Fan
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You are blowing smoke out your rear end.
The goalposts keep moving. Obama produced his birth certificate. That's enough, for those not vincibly ignorant - or vested in peddling conspiracy theories that he's a seeeeekrit Muslim.
I'm done here. I got better things to do than waste my 4-day weekend on fools.
The State of Hawaii only confirmed that a Certificate of Live Birth exists and is in the Vault. They did not say what was in it. This doesn't mean the information is authenticated.
Oh OK I’m convinced! Thanks for posting the CoLB! Why didn’t you present this glorious evidence sooner??? /s
You dolt. That is a Certification of Live Birth. The original birth certificate has never been produced.
I agree. He's no secret Muslim. He was quite openly Muslim at that Ramadan dinner.
An honest, straightforward, upright, and moral person would be **HONORED** to prove to his troops that he is a natural born citizen and qualified to be their Commander in Chief.
With a nod of his head, Obama could do this and have all documentation available by Monday at 10 a.m. for full review by anyone who wanted to see it ( especially those serving under his command.)
So?...Why isn't he?
I am also a military member and you seem to be misinformed about the UCMJ. A military member is only required to follow a LAWFUL order. Your analogy of ordering a private to do something is erroneous. If you ordered a private to shoot your general and he refuses, then he WILL NOT be charged with insubordination. Likewise, if an Iraqi dresses in a stolen US Cpt uniform and orders the private to do something that the private believes is unlawful, then he WILL NOT be charged with insubordination if he can prove either the order was unlawful or the person giving the order did not have authority to do so. This is exactly what many people are questioning and it is lawful.
Also, you are wrong about Obama being accepted by Congress, so therefore that is “game, set, match”. If Obama was proven to be ineligible and to have knowingly/fraudulantly held himself out as eligible, then he will have violated the law and would be removed. All of his edicts would immediately be thrown into question because he NEVER apparently had to authority to give the edicts.
So will you be one of those soldiers that willingly open fires on fellow American citizens just because BO told you too? You really need to open your eyes and stop following orders blindly and think for yourself. Blind ignorance is what gets people killed in combat and at home.
THANK YOU for providing me with another copy of that incredibly bad forgery - I lost the last one when my hard drive died. *I* could forge a better birth certificate than that.
Thanks for the link to the memo re: birth certificate verification.
My question is, from whom would Fukino get a verification that Obama Jr. is a NBC if his father is Obama Sr., as stated on the COLB?
I would think where he was born is irrelevant in that regard. Who would have authority to qualify him as a NBC?
I wonder if the judge will require Hussein’s right footprint to see if it matches the BC????
Self-zot ongoing by jude here.....
Bummer, it was pulled.
Was a fun thread while it lasted - 75 replies in 15 minutes.
Pulled by the moderator kittehs!
Carry on Jude
Secret? No secret muslim would bow to and kiss the ring of the Saudi King.
Regarding the COLB *not the birth certificate* you posted. His father's race is shown as African and his mother's is Caucasian. I didn't realize Hawaii was using nationality for race back in the 60s. What country is "Caucasian"?
jude24: Lookie here! Our favorite quack is now trying to get the UCMJ and Army Regulation 27-10 (Military Justice) declared unconstitutional!
This is what your "Delete my account" opus is all about? Where was FR advocating sedition in this?
rightly you should, that is why we need a confirmation to see if Obama is his superior officer
Yeah, I noticed you have problems.
Hardly worth the trouble. He'll stop at Stanley Ann's date of birth: 11/29/1942. How very British! How very Y2K!
wow I didn’t know they had a food print. Can they verify that is Obama’s foot?
I’m sorry that your exit opus got pulled. I just finished reading several months worth of your previous posts. You seemed to be a good contributor to FR in most cases. Do have some problems with your demand of one poster that he show respect to the memory of Ted Kennedy. I would say the poster showed more respect than did Teddy to the dead girl he let stay out in the water all night before he went to summon help.
Actually you were holding your own until you posted the COLB. Nearly anyone whose parent/parents are residents of Hawaii but they themselves were not born there can obtain a Hawaiian COLB. Work with 2 individuals who have Hawaiian COLB’s, one was born in Japan, the other in the Philippines. Parents (U.S. citizens) were missionaries out of Hawaii. A Hawaiian COLB is not solid proof of place of birth.
I am going to ignore you insult of a fellow freeper and just state that the question if the order is lawful is in question.
Uhm, read the complaint. The UCMJ code that the plaintiff seeks to have declared unconstitutional says that — which is why she’s seeking to have it declared unconstitutional.
I suppose it made too much sense.
the coward is Obama who won't come clean and tell the truth.
Problem. the problem may be on top of the chain of command.
On Aug 25 I posted:
Wiki has a color-coded global map of countries using different date formats and Kenya jumps out all by itself (in purple) as using two formats, one of which matched the Lucas Smith video. It would be possible for Wiki to have been hacked and those with way-back investigative skills might want to see how long ago Kenya was shown as using two date formats.
List of the world locations by date format in use:
Kenya (d/m/yyyy and m/d/yyyy)
114 posted on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:50:03 PM by Seizethecarp
On Aug 27, after Lucas Smith posted on his YouTube site the same Wiki dual format info that he found on FR in my post or on his own, I observed and posted the following:
An Obot named Mystylplx was forced to admit that after this information was posted on Lucas Smith’s Youtube site, she(?) hacked the Wiki date format page and removed the dual date format listing for Kenya, although the color-coded map still shows Kenya in purple as a dual date format country. This would seem to show some hypersensitivity on this point, which shouldn’t worry them if it weren’t true.
120 posted on Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:27:18 PM by Seizethecarp
They cost a lot less than the ineligible usurper failing to provide ANY documentation to the AMERICAN citizens.
Documentation isn’t required to be provided anywhere in the statutes or Constitution that I know of. When it is then that becomes a point.
The requirement is a failure of our system that needs to be corrected and address either through legislation or an amendment to the Constitution. Until then who does the qualifiying certification? Congress, each state, Electoral College?
Would you not be entitled to be presented with evidence that the man giving you the orders is lawfully authorized by the military or the constitution to give those orders?
Same doctor. Temporary restraining order filed last Friday. TRO denied the following day.
A court martial may determine that.
The military generally takes a dim view of soldiers who decide for themselves if their commanding officer is legitimate and if his or her orders are valid.
If their conscience prevents them from following orders then I suggest they resign their commissions. Problem solved.
Yeah, it is:
ART. 94. MUTINY OR SEDITION
(a) Any person subject to this chapter who--
(1) with intent to usurp or override lawful military authority, refuses, in concert with any other person, to obey orders or otherwise do his duty or creates any violence or disturbance is guilty of mutiny;
(2) with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of lawful civil authority, creates, in concert with any other person, revolt, violence, or disturbance against that authority is guilty of sedition;
(3) fails to do his utmost to prevent and suppress a mutiny or sedition being committed in his presence, or fails to take all reasonable means to inform his superior commissioned officer or commanding officer of a mutiny or sedition which he knows or has reason to believe is taking place, is guilty of a failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition.
(b) A person who is found guilty of attempted mutiny, mutiny, sedition, or failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.
Nowhere. She's within her rights to file any suit she wants. But she's expected to obey orders in the interim. If she refuses to go then she can be charged with any number of violations of the UCMJ.
If you order the private to report for duty and he refuses, then he will be. The military takes a dim view of members who decide for themselves what orders are lawful and what are not. Don't believe me? Google Micheal New or Ehren Watada and see what happens.
As for this woman being a coward, you have no proof of that, you have no proof that she is not sincere in her beliefs and you are wrong that her orders are legal even if he is NOT the legal CIC. All orders ultimately originate with the President.
If you are a five star general and you are driving onto a military base, if the corporal at the gate doesn't ask you to show your papers, then he is likely to get demoted.
Even a General has to show his papers. Why doesn't the commander in chief have to show his?
But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. (Mat 5:22)
So the Nazis said at Nuremberg. Must have been first year stuff in their law school. Apparently you attended the same one that they did.
The Kenyan government's Office of Public Communication is using dd/mm/yyyy on this page. But in 1961 I doubt they would have been using a four-digit year (that practice became widespread after the Y2K computer date scare). In any case, Lucas Smith's forgery has the day in the middle, a format mainly associated with the US.
Mystylplx's wiki edits provoked some consternation in the Wikipedia page's discussion area:
Kenya uses both?
Does anyone have a citation for that? Neither citation given supports this idea, plus it seems rather absurd. No one would know what any date meant. Would 8/7/09 be Aug. 7th? Or July 8th? Mystylplx (talk) 02:26, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Been looking and can't find a single reference to Kenya using middle endian other than this wikipedia page. The citation given on the page leads to a Microsoft page, which doesn't say anything about date formats, and wouldn't count as an authoritative source even if it did. All the examples on Kenyan sites I could find use little endian. This point will be getting some controversy since the latest Kenyan BC for Obama uses middle endian dates, and as I said, this wikipedia page seems to be the sole source on the internet claiming Kenya uses that format. Just a heads up. Mystylplx (talk) 05:03, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
“If you order the private to report for duty and he refuses, then he will be. The military takes a dim view of members who decide for themselves what orders are lawful and what are not. Don’t believe me? Google Micheal New or Ehren Watada and see what happens.”
Absolutely. But George Bush, Bill Clinton and DOD did not exert improper command influence to short circuit the court martial of those two. I am certain Hussein and/or his top level associates took action to have Stefan Cook’s orders changed. Hussein will NOT chance that a judge will allow the discovery motions that Cook’s or Rhodes legal defense might require.
He is too much of a punk ass coward to roll that dice.