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Could George W. Bush end up behind bars?
CNN.com ^ | 09/04/09 | Staff

Posted on 09/04/2009 3:02:28 PM PDT by OldDeckHand

(CNN) -- Could George W. Bush or some of his top aides end up behind bars?

It's extremely unlikely, but the Obama administration is taking its first steps along a path that could lead in that direction, with the investigation of Central Intelligence Agency interrogators involved in the war on terror.

"You don't know where these things are going to end up," former CIA agent Peter Brookes told me. "They could go to very high levels in the government."

The probe will focus on whether interrogators exceeded their instructions and broke the law when, for example, they choked a prisoner until he lost consciousness or threatened another one with a gun and a power drill.

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KEYWORDS: agenda; bho44; bush; bush43; cia; ciaprobe; cnn; cwii; cwiiping; democrats; donttreadonme; georgewbush; interrogation; investigation; obama; presidentbush; prosecute; wishfulthinking; wot
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To: OldDeckHand

I think the real war we need is to take down the COMMUNIST NEWS NETWORK first! Then we go after the others one by one, just like gangs take over turf.


351 posted on 09/05/2009 11:06:06 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: freedom_is_earned

“And now you’re quoting Obama’s most recent tool to bring this phrase back into our lexicon, Linda Douglass, the communications director for the White House’s Health Reform Office, which wouldn’t know a fact if it bit them in the collective bum. Uh huh. Fascinating. Keep at it. You must have one hell of a supply of straw. Keep goats about, do you? Oh, no, wait, must be donkeys.”

I was quoting John Adams.


352 posted on 09/05/2009 11:07:14 AM PDT by Favor Center (Targets up! Hold hard and favor center!)
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To: Just A Nobody

LOL. You are correct; I had forgotten about that. Although I hear that the hapless Gibbs did have a WoT slip last week.


353 posted on 09/05/2009 11:10:28 AM PDT by kevao (DISSENT: It's no longer patriotic.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Note to self: move to Texas ASAP.

Move to Austin, we need lots of help getting rid of the socialists here.

It's a pock on the state.

354 posted on 09/05/2009 11:11:33 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: Irish Rose
I don’t think even the Obama administration is stupid enough to try to imprison a former president for his policy decisions.

Maybe not a president. But an entire nation, yes. We are being imprisoned and don't even realize it.

355 posted on 09/05/2009 11:20:41 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: kevao
Yes, indeed. You're happy to let your lies and reckless insults define you.

I'm not a bit surprised.

356 posted on 09/05/2009 11:24:56 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: DuncanWaring

If they send ACORN/Black Panther members to polling places, I would recommend they first contact AFLAC, John Hancock and a reputable burial insurance company. I don’t think they know what kind of fire they’re playing with.


357 posted on 09/05/2009 11:27:20 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $1 million for Sarah Palin if she runs; What will you do?)
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To: ohioWfan

Why the provocation? I thought we agreed we were finished.


358 posted on 09/05/2009 11:28:08 AM PDT by kevao (DISSENT: It's no longer patriotic.)
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To: eleni121
So you admit that you have a bigger problem with an honorable man and strong leader than with a communist thug who hates America.

You'd rather attack Bush for his lack of conservatism than defend the country against a Marxist take-over, and you freely admit it.

I'm pretty sure I'm not the one whose head is in the sand, eleni. I'm seeing pretty clearly now, and fighting tooth and nail for the country more than I ever have before.

I wish you'd join me. Your emotions, directed at the enemy instead of your fellow conservatives, would be helpful in the fight.

359 posted on 09/05/2009 11:28:14 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Favor Center

It is true that it is much more difficult to do anything with the press arrayed against us. But it is not a waste of time to go to DC. We see each other, for one thing, and even if the press refuses to report a word of it, we will know the truth. That is always how the press deals with the big pro-life march every year - they ignore it. But in these times of Twitter, YouTube, etc. it’s going to be much harder for the press to control that information.

I plan to be Twittering.

BTW, people who want to follow an event should look into a site called “Tweet Grid.” (www.tweetgrid.com) It enables you to select Tweets based on the subject of those tweets, and assembles them into a sort of real-time, constantly updated table of Tweets. I followed Honduras with Tweet Grid.


360 posted on 09/05/2009 11:30:42 AM PDT by livius
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To: Favor Center
'I can walk and chew gum at the same time, freedom_is_earned. I oppose liberals of both parties.'

Doubtful, since this thread, in an age when we agree we see a 'soft tyranny' before us, is about our current administration's abuse of power, while you continue to distort the truth about a man who was very conservative on some very important matters, including those of life and death. Your willingness to turn your back on these obvious truths is disgusting, frankly. Bye!
361 posted on 09/05/2009 11:31:06 AM PDT by freedom_is_earned (Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain! -- OZ)
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To: Just A Nobody
I just came back for a minute - been watching the Buckeyes beat Navy - but not easily enough!

We will be there in DC - not sure if we'll be able to meet up, but it sure would be fun. We have to miss the morning stuff, but will be there for the big rally, and then have to drive home to Ohio (for church Sunday a.m.)

Is there a FR center of action where I can look you up? I would LOVE to finally see you face to face - especially after all these bloody fights we've fought together. :)

362 posted on 09/05/2009 11:31:54 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: kevao
Oy.

Tell you what, kev. When you apologize to me for lying about me, comparing me with Pelosi, calling me an idolater, and attacking my faith, I'll admit to being a provocateur.

Deal?

363 posted on 09/05/2009 11:35:26 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: eleni121
Cheney I'll defend.
Bush can seek asylum where his loyalties lie...in Mexico.
364 posted on 09/05/2009 11:35:48 AM PDT by Dagnabitt (What (child) would Mohammad do?)
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To: livius

“It is true that it is much more difficult to do anything with the press arrayed against us. But it is not a waste of time to go to DC.”

The state sovereignty movement is the key. THAT might have a chance. Remember how the previous two Tea Party nationwide events were reported?


365 posted on 09/05/2009 11:35:56 AM PDT by Favor Center (Targets up! Hold hard and favor center!)
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To: freedom_is_earned

“while you continue to distort the truth about a man who was very conservative on some very important matters, including those of life and death.”

Because he was very liberal on so many other important matters.


366 posted on 09/05/2009 11:37:04 AM PDT by Favor Center (Targets up! Hold hard and favor center!)
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To: ohioWfan

Stop the pity party thing you have going on...it doesn’t befit a conservative.

Snap out of it...


367 posted on 09/05/2009 11:39:25 AM PDT by eleni121 (The New Byzantium - resurrect it!)
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To: Just A Nobody
Had President Bush not signed this bill, they would have voted to override his veto.

A veto override requires a two-thirds vote of both the House and Senate (Article 1, Section 7 of the US Constitution).

Do you really think that if President Bush had vetoed the CFR bill, that 7 of the 40 senators who voted against it would have changed their vote in favor of it and none of the 60 who voted for it would have changed to vote against it?

368 posted on 09/05/2009 11:39:27 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Favor Center

Most of these people are coming with state groups, and I hope there’s some emphasis on the states they come from and the fact that state sovereignty is a vital concept that has always been a bit neglected (because the Federal government realizes that it is a threat) but has never been more important than now.


369 posted on 09/05/2009 11:41:27 AM PDT by livius
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To: Favor Center
So you are saying that ALL of us FReepers who are joining the march on Washington for freedom, including Jim Robinson, aren't "accomplishing much of anything?"

Wow. Pretty heavy indictment of all of us real life conservatives, troll.

Just for the record - not for you, troll, but for the conservatives - there is not ONE "liberal agenda" that I have ever defended, on this thread or any other in all my posts. Therefore, since you are both a liar and a troll, I will join the others who are putting you on permanent "Ignore."

Maybe some day when you grow up or become a conservative in real life, I'll talk to you again. Until then.........have a nice liberal life.

370 posted on 09/05/2009 11:42:06 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Just A Nobody
I said: President Bush did not give amnesty to millions of illegal alien invaders

Not for lack of trying.

Had he been able to by Imperial Decree, without having to deal with that pesky Congress, he certainly would have.

"See you at the bill signing".

371 posted on 09/05/2009 11:45:11 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

That is perfect.


372 posted on 09/05/2009 11:45:36 AM PDT by JApost
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To: eleni121
Pity?? LOL!

I asked you to join in the fight for our country that I am ACTIVELY engaged in.

Put aside your emotions and join the battle against evil, eleni. We need everyone, including you.

Buck up, put on your armor and fight the enemy. DO it!

373 posted on 09/05/2009 11:45:47 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan

“So you are saying that ALL of us FReepers who are joining the march on Washington for freedom, including Jim Robinson, aren’t “accomplishing much of anything?””

It’ll work about as well as other protests on the Mall.

“Wow. Pretty heavy indictment of all of us real life conservatives, troll.”

You aren’t a real life conservative if you defend liberals.

“Just for the record - not for you, troll, but for the conservatives - there is not ONE “liberal agenda” that I have ever defended, on this thread or any other in all my posts. Therefore, since you are both a liar and a troll, I will join the others who are putting you on permanent “Ignore.””

You defend 2nd most liberal domestic agenda in the past 9 years, so yes... you do.

“Maybe some day when you grow up or become a conservative in real life, I’ll talk to you again. Until then.........have a nice liberal life.”

Perhaps when you grow out of your infatuation with certain politicians, you will be willing to judge said politicians by the policies they enact.


374 posted on 09/05/2009 11:46:11 AM PDT by Favor Center (Targets up! Hold hard and favor center!)
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To: livius

“Most of these people are coming with state groups, and I hope there’s some emphasis on the states they come from and the fact that state sovereignty is a vital concept that has always been a bit neglected (because the Federal government realizes that it is a threat) but has never been more important than now.”

The States putting a stop to this may be the only thing that can work, now.


375 posted on 09/05/2009 11:48:50 AM PDT by Favor Center (Targets up! Hold hard and favor center!)
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To: OldDeckHand

I’d rather it be Janet Reno. She was a very bad girl.


376 posted on 09/05/2009 11:50:47 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Put Van Jones' stuff in the Moving Van. Yes, we can.)
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To: ohioWfan
There's no need for me to say another word.

Agreed.

377 posted on 09/05/2009 11:52:31 AM PDT by kevao (DISSENT: It's no longer patriotic.)
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To: Favor Center
I'm fighting against liberalism, and you're fighting against me.

That's all we need to know about you, troll.

Now stop lying, OK? It's getting really boring.

378 posted on 09/05/2009 11:52:40 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: VeniVidiVici
They're after Ashcroft too. We were and are at war!

Maoist Morons.

379 posted on 09/05/2009 11:54:20 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Put Van Jones' stuff in the Moving Van. Yes, we can.)
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To: ohioWfan

“I’m fighting against liberalism, and you’re fighting against me.”

You are defending a liberal. You’re only fighting one party’s liberalism.

“Now stop lying, OK? It’s getting really boring.”

To stop, I’d have to start.


380 posted on 09/05/2009 11:57:30 AM PDT by Favor Center (Targets up! Hold hard and favor center!)
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To: Favor Center

Swat.


381 posted on 09/05/2009 12:06:05 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan

AND I demand that you stop mollycoddling Jorge and continue the efforts against Zero.

But put aside those flimsy memories about Bush...most of them are based on emotion not fact.

The facts remain: Bush had 8 years to turn this nation forward on a path of Conservatism and he merely opened the door to Zero. Whatever little he did that was conservative he did kicking and screaming all the way.


382 posted on 09/05/2009 12:08:00 PM PDT by eleni121 (The New Byzantium - resurrect it!)
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To: ohioWfan

“Swat.”

Huh?


383 posted on 09/05/2009 12:08:40 PM PDT by Favor Center (Targets up! Hold hard and favor center!)
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To: eleni121

“Whatever little he did that was conservative he did kicking and screaming all the way.”

His Presidency was such a wasted opportunity.


384 posted on 09/05/2009 12:10:11 PM PDT by Favor Center (Targets up! Hold hard and favor center!)
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To: Favor Center
Getting rid of pests.

Ahhhhhhh.......

(No more lying now, sweetie, OK? Thanks ever so much! :)

385 posted on 09/05/2009 12:11:59 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: eleni121
I know you're mad, eleni. But the eeeeeeevil Bush is gone now. I can't "mollycoddle" him........as if I ever did. LOL! (Funny thought)

Now get on with your life, get over these emotional outbursts, and try to save the country with me.

If you don't want to, don't complain about what happens. I'm fighting. You can do what you want.

386 posted on 09/05/2009 12:15:01 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Just A Nobody
Trying only counts in horseshoes. FACT: He didn't!

Ted Kaczinski hasn't mailed out any letter-bombs recently, either.

Does he (Kaczinski) get any credit for being reformed?

387 posted on 09/05/2009 12:16:23 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: ohioWfan

“(No more lying now, sweetie, OK? Thanks ever so much! :)”

You really do like insulting conservatives, don’t you?

In my neck of the woods, we tend to take offense to being called a “liar”.


388 posted on 09/05/2009 12:17:01 PM PDT by Favor Center (Targets up! Hold hard and favor center!)
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To: DuncanWaring

“Does he (Kaczinski) get any credit for being reformed?”

Good one.


389 posted on 09/05/2009 12:17:30 PM PDT by Favor Center (Targets up! Hold hard and favor center!)
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To: ohioWfan
Mad doesn't begin to describe it.

But what's amazing here is that you - a self promoting conservative activist - are so breathlessly willing to give Jorge a free pass.

Now that is disturbing.

That makes little sense.

BTW—a hint: an honest critique of the “compassionate” Bush signifies a powerful and principled aggression against Zero.

390 posted on 09/05/2009 12:27:21 PM PDT by eleni121 (The New Byzantium - resurrect it!)
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To: Favor Center
Then stop doing it, and you won't have to be offended.

Now since the flyswatter didn't work, I may have to try something a bit more potent to get you to leave me alone.

How's THIS?

Have a great life, son. Become involved. Fight the Marxists. BE a conservative, don't play one on the Internet.

GOOD BYE!

391 posted on 09/05/2009 12:30:16 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: eleni121
So since Bush is the enemy, you should be totally supporting of the Obama administration's attempt to put him in jail.

I hope you'll be happy when this happens, because all that rage is eating you up inside.

Oh.....and btw, I disagree with some of what President Bush did, but there is NO need for me to attack him. People like you who are filled with irrational rage do enough for 1000 others. I disagree with his immigration policy, but I don't think he's the devil personified because of it. I think signing CFR was a mistake, but I don't think he's a despicable traitor because he did.

All I do here is defend him against the lies and false accusations bandied about so recklessly. If that bugs you, so be it. I just don't like lying.

392 posted on 09/05/2009 12:36:53 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan

“Then stop doing it, and you won’t have to be offended.”

That’s just it: I haven’t lied.

“Have a great life, son. Become involved. Fight the Marxists. BE a conservative, don’t play one on the Internet.”

You first. First thing would be to realize that the Party doesn’t matter: actions do. Until then, you are fighting for one part of the SAME side. The other side.

Maybe, eventually, you’ll grow up enough to realize that.


393 posted on 09/05/2009 12:37:00 PM PDT by Favor Center (Targets up! Hold hard and favor center!)
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To: ohioWfan
Lots of politicians pose with their tools---the Saudis posed with theirs.


Good old boys

394 posted on 09/05/2009 12:41:20 PM PDT by eleni121 (The New Byzantium - resurrect it!)
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To: DuncanWaring; Just A Nobody

Indeed, GWB did not give amnesty to illegals in the same way Hillary Clinton did not give HillaryCare to America.


395 posted on 09/05/2009 12:41:46 PM PDT by kevao (DISSENT: It's no longer patriotic.)
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To: Favor Center
OK. One last shot.

I defended President Bush's integrity and his faith.

I defended his strong pro-life stance. I defended his stellar choice of conservative judges. I defended his strong support of the military, and the war in Iraq. I have enumerated my MANY Conservative credentials and my provable conservative activism.

There is NOT ONE LIBERAL POLICY that I have defended here and you know it.

You are lying about what I have said, and you know it.

No more from me. And no more lying from you, boy. It's getting disgusting. There is no reason to believe you are anything more than an August sign on date trouble making troll.

396 posted on 09/05/2009 12:43:58 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: eleni121

“That makes little sense.”

That’s because it’s based entirely on emotion. Therefore, they feel no need or desire to defend the liberal policies we oppose. They feel any questioning of him is an attack on their “friend”.

Just like the Obamabots.


397 posted on 09/05/2009 12:44:24 PM PDT by Favor Center (Targets up! Hold hard and favor center!)
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To: eleni121
LOL! You are such a stitch, eleni.

Thanks for ending this little "debate" with a laugh.

398 posted on 09/05/2009 12:45:06 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Favor Center; ohioWfan

I never thought that conservatives could get caught up in personality cults like Ohiowfan seems to done.

An honest evaluation of the Bush years can lead to a growing base for conservative values.


399 posted on 09/05/2009 12:46:10 PM PDT by eleni121 (The New Byzantium - resurrect it!)
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To: ohioWfan

We are definitely on the same side - the right side - although I think I’m a bit more ideologically conservative than you are

God bless! :>)


400 posted on 09/05/2009 12:50:09 PM PDT by eleni121 (The New Byzantium - resurrect it!)
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