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Vanity: Was It a Fluke on F&F This Morning?
Fox & Friends | Sep 5, 2009 | Atom Smasher

Posted on 09/05/2009 7:43:56 AM PDT by Atom Smasher

I apologize for the vanity, but was concerned over the several interruptions that occurred this morning on F&F. Tom Ridge was being interviewed on the controversy behind raising the "threat level" in 2004...it being suggested that this was done to up Bush's points. Right when it got to that area of the discussion, a Geico commercial cut it right off. As soon as the commercial was finished, it went back to the set, where the interview was still going...obviously, the interruption was not known by the anchor giving the interview - because not 10 seconds later, another commercial interrupted the interview & again went back to the F&F set & they were still talking. Then it happened a third time!

Now we all know when a commercial break is expected...the interview is paused, & resumed after commercial break. Now, forgive me FReepers if I appear paranoid, but these anchors had no idea that commercials were interrupting them. And as far as I know, 2 of the commercials were the ones included in the Glenn Beck boycott.

I know that the FNC stands strong against tyranny, or do they? I believe they do...so, now I'm wondering if my comcast cable company did this intentionally, or if I am reading too much into it. Needless to say, everything important that needed to be heard by Tom Ridge's comments, were not heard....

Just wondering....


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1 posted on 09/05/2009 7:43:56 AM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: Atom Smasher

I apologize for not being able to get the link to work...


2 posted on 09/05/2009 7:44:36 AM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: Atom Smasher

It happened here too. It was weird. I have WOW.


3 posted on 09/05/2009 7:45:57 AM PDT by Lovergirl (God Bless Tony Snow and his family. I will always be a Snowflake.)
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To: Lovergirl

Then I don’t think I’m being paranoid!

Thanks for the relief!


4 posted on 09/05/2009 7:46:50 AM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: Atom Smasher

Happened on Cable Vision also.


5 posted on 09/05/2009 7:48:09 AM PDT by Joiseydude (I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees. Live free or die.)
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To: Atom Smasher
Which comment. The one where he said he was pressured to raise the threat level or the latter one where he claimed he said no such thing?

Tom Ridge, another RINO clown, the commercials were better use of the time then having this fraud on.

6 posted on 09/05/2009 7:48:49 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Carbon offsets? Sounds like the Environmental Church wants us to buy climate indulgences.)
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To: Atom Smasher
>Now, forgive me FReepers if I appear paranoid

No. Don't take this wrong
and I don't mean offense but
I won't forgive you.

7 posted on 09/05/2009 7:49:26 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Joiseydude; Lovergirl

So, do we focus our attention on the FNC...are they caving? Not the anchors, but the company itself?

My heart would break if this happens...


8 posted on 09/05/2009 7:49:45 AM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: Atom Smasher

Also happened here - we have Comcast. A commercial cut him (Ridge) off as soon as he started to explain


9 posted on 09/05/2009 7:50:40 AM PDT by jen0517 (a pharmacist's point of view)
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To: Atom Smasher

I suspect that it is innocent. At weekends, the second team (taxi squad) of technicians is running the show. At Holiday weekends, it is often the third team (those on IR).


10 posted on 09/05/2009 7:51:12 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: Atom Smasher
I know that the FNC stands strong against tyranny....

No, they stand strong for making money.

11 posted on 09/05/2009 7:51:55 AM PDT by brewcrew
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To: MNJohnnie

Which comment. The one where he said he was pressured to raise the threat level or the latter one where he claimed he said no such thing?
Tom Ridge, another RINO clown, the commercials were better use of the time then having this fraud on.

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I’m referring to the possiblity that the FNC’s integrity might have been compromised...I stated that I don’t believe it has been, but I am left to wonder...


12 posted on 09/05/2009 7:52:33 AM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: theFIRMbss

Thank you, that means the world to me...no sarc intended.


13 posted on 09/05/2009 7:53:52 AM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: brewcrew

Sure, I know they do whatever it takes to make the bottom dollar, but they’ve made their money by standing their ground on the issues.


14 posted on 09/05/2009 7:55:00 AM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: jen0517

Saw some of this type of thing on NFL Network last night and have seen it before at times. Believe its when some preset computerized commercial insert system either goes awry or, sometimes when there is live breaking news it can get messy until they apparently shut the system down. With it happening last night and again today, wonder if the system isn’t centralized and the clock is off?


15 posted on 09/05/2009 7:55:02 AM PDT by John W
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To: Atom Smasher

Somebody programmed the commercial breaks wrong, and it’s impossible to know if it was intentional or not.


16 posted on 09/05/2009 7:55:08 AM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: Atom Smasher
Same thing happened here. I was kind of surprised none of the hosts mentioned the interruptions. I guess they didn't know it was happening.
17 posted on 09/05/2009 7:56:32 AM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: Atom Smasher

“Not the anchors, but the company itself?”

perhaps a lefty in the control room....I’m only guessing, but I think what is actually outward bound could easily be over-ridden downstream from the producer/whoever who sits there saying “take” 2,3,5,7,whatever....


18 posted on 09/05/2009 7:57:31 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68 (CALL CONGRESSCRITTERS TOLL-FREE @ 1-800-965-4701)
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To: Atom Smasher
I have a more simple explanation from our good friend Occam:

It's Saturday. It's a holiday weekend. Fox News has given their senior support staff, senior anchors and APPARENTLY their senior engineering staff the weekend off. So what you see is simply On The Job Training for Fox News Engineers.

But of course you need to keep in mind that quote by the famous Intel founder Andy Grove: "Only the paranoid survive". And the equally valid but anonymous (AFAIK) quote: "Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean people aren't really out to get me".

19 posted on 09/05/2009 7:57:58 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: savedbygrace

Thats a possibility, but it just seemed strange that instead of staying on the commercial break, it kept flashing back to the set of F&F between each commercial for about 5-10 seconds...


20 posted on 09/05/2009 7:58:31 AM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

It happened here also. We have Suddenlink cable. I don’t think F&F ever knew what was going on.


21 posted on 09/05/2009 7:58:58 AM PDT by native texan
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To: Atom Smasher

Happened here too on Time Warner Cable.


22 posted on 09/05/2009 7:59:09 AM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: expatpat
I suspect that it is innocent. At weekends, the second team (taxi squad) of technicians is running the show. At Holiday weekends, it is often the third team (those on IR).

You beat me to it. See my post #19.

23 posted on 09/05/2009 7:59:22 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: native texan

None dare call it conspiracy.


24 posted on 09/05/2009 7:59:39 AM PDT by steven33442
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To: jennyjenny

Same thing happened here. I was kind of surprised none of the hosts mentioned the interruptions. I guess they didn’t know it was happening

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That is why it was so strange to me, because the hosts did not know they were being interrupted...pretty out of the norm for the FNC.


25 posted on 09/05/2009 8:01:23 AM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: Atom Smasher; flaglady47
Almost everything political on the tube yesterday and this weekend is taped. If the participants in the talk shows are live, it's because they're third-string guests, hosts, production managers, engineers and grips.

This is because everybody who is anybody on TV is on the beach at Waikiki or Nassau at this moment. Glitches are going to occur, so don't read anything sinister into it.

That being said, about a year ago Freepers were commenting on the three seconds-or-so freeze-ups on the Fox shows.....although a little less frequently than before. I suppose most people know the problem still continues. Maybe this has something to do with the satellite feed or something. If anyone knows what THIS particular problem is caused by, please let us know. Thanks,

Leni

26 posted on 09/05/2009 8:02:33 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Atom Smasher

The weekend crews (especially on a holiday weekend) tend to be less experienced and you find a lot more mistakes. That may or may not explain what happened.


27 posted on 09/05/2009 8:02:37 AM PDT by EDINVA (A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul -- G. B. Shaw)
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To: InterceptPoint

But of course you need to keep in mind that quote by the famous Intel founder Andy Grove: “Only the paranoid survive”. And the equally valid but anonymous (AFAIK) quote: “Just because I’m paranoid doesn’t mean people aren’t really out to get me”.

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I do like your thinking!


28 posted on 09/05/2009 8:04:15 AM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: EDINVA

Won’t hurt to send F&F an email.


29 posted on 09/05/2009 8:04:49 AM PDT by native texan
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To: Atom Smasher

Ridge is flogging his book.
it could have been a hard break,

FNC weekend crew are generally idiots in front and behind the camera.


30 posted on 09/05/2009 8:06:22 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Atom Smasher

Maybe someone in the control room doesn’t agree with Fox’s stand.


31 posted on 09/05/2009 8:06:27 AM PDT by MizSterious (Do you not think an angel rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm? John Page, 1744-1808)
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To: expatpat
At Holiday weekends, it is often the third team (those on IR).

IR? Go easy on me no coffee yet...

32 posted on 09/05/2009 8:06:34 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 227 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Atom Smasher

To all....someone post a transcript....thanks...


33 posted on 09/05/2009 8:07:40 AM PDT by spokeshave (Obama can't unjump the shark)
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To: native texan; armymarinemom

I’m relieved to know that others took notice of this! It was just very strange...after years of being an avid FNC fan I have never seen it happen before...


34 posted on 09/05/2009 8:07:41 AM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: Atom Smasher
It happened here in Jersey - Verizon FIOS TV. I think the second or third stringer's are working this weekend.

Kinda like having the Detroit Lions play for the Steelers in last year's Super Bowl.

35 posted on 09/05/2009 8:08:11 AM PDT by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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To: MNJohnnie

Actually, no, they weren’t better. It’s better know what the enemy is actually saying. That’s how we get to expose these people for who they are—by their own words. On video, so they can’t claim the transcripts were doctored.


36 posted on 09/05/2009 8:08:13 AM PDT by MizSterious (Do you not think an angel rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm? John Page, 1744-1808)
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To: MizSterious

I was wondering the same...


37 posted on 09/05/2009 8:11:29 AM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: native texan

I sent an email before show even ended...


38 posted on 09/05/2009 8:12:15 AM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: Atom Smasher
A word from someone who has worked in the technical end of television for 31 years...

All TV stations/networks are now run by automation systems and sometimes those systems go absolutely stupid and start rolling stuff for no reason.

This sounds to me like one of the two scenarios...

1. The automation went haywire either through technical difficulties or being misprogramed by the operator. Most likely scenario, they forgot to put in a manual start for that break and when the countdown on the "dummy time" (they have to put in dummy times when generating automation runs for live shows in order to get the in and out times of the shows to jive with the official log) hit zero it rolled. In that situation the operator generally lets the first spot blow by and put a manual stop on the end-it is "less noticible" to the audience then dumping out of a commercial and then recovers the system to get it back on track.

2. They took down the automation to repair something and when they were going back to it the operator had the wrong line called up when he/she restarted the system.

3. The "Pepsi Syndrome"-The operator accidentally dropped something on the switcher or the "paddle" and it hit the initiate button. It is a very rare occurrence but it does happen.

As to the anchor "not noticing" that is an easy explanation. They do not route the on air feed into the studio, only the output of the production control room. They do not watch the commercials while in the breaks, they either are seeing black (nothing) or something on preview that they need to see (like a live feed of a fire or something).

In all of these events the person who is sitting in their BOC has to write the incident up and is more then likely gonna get his or her butt kicked on Tuesday.

39 posted on 09/05/2009 8:15:10 AM PDT by Nahanni
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To: Nahanni
This sounds to me like one of the two scenarios...

Sorry, I meant three scenarios...PIMF

Need....more....coffee....

40 posted on 09/05/2009 8:16:22 AM PDT by Nahanni
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To: Atom Smasher

Over the years I’ve noticed that on weekends and especially on holiday weekends there appears to be more ‘’glitches’’ in programing than during the week. I think there are recent hires getting their feet wet. Same thing happens on radio when for no apparent reason dead air is present and when the programing comes back the talking heads were not aware that they were talking to a void( something like when MSNBC broadcasts and nobody is out there to listen)


41 posted on 09/05/2009 8:16:23 AM PDT by shadeaud ("If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten." -- George Carlin)
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To: jen0517

most likely it was a issue generating from FOX broadcasting itself if multiple locales experinced the same issue... someone flip to comercial feed to early...realised it corrected it... then went to commerical anyway.. sounds like a control room screw up... doubt it is anything nefarious.


42 posted on 09/05/2009 8:16:59 AM PDT by Americanwolf ("Mary Jo Kopechne finally gets to face Ted, on her ground")
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To: Atom Smasher

Even with two hearing aids, Tom Ridge is still politically deaf.

At Homeland Security(I hate that name—why isn’t it National Security? A “homeland” implies colonies somewhere else) we have had three losers in leadership:

Tom “What?” Ridge

Michael “What Border?” Skeletor Chertoff

Janet “Every Right winger is a Terrorist” Napolitano.

God help us!


43 posted on 09/05/2009 8:19:12 AM PDT by exit82 (Sarah Palin is President No. 45. Get behind her, GOP, or get out of the way.)
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To: Atom Smasher

What was Ridge’s explanation of the controversy and did you get to see it in the interview?


44 posted on 09/05/2009 8:19:27 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: Nahanni

Thank you for the heads up with that in depth information! I was sitting here this morning with conspiracy theories running through my head like you wouldn’t believe:
1) Who can retask a satellite?
2) If FNC won’t cave, who can infiltrate the company?
3) Are these commercial showings under control nationally, or locally?

...etc.

Thanks!


45 posted on 09/05/2009 8:20:33 AM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: Eagles6

What was Ridge’s explanation of the controversy and did you get to see it in the interview?

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No, it was over by the time all the commercial interruptions stopped. They were wrapping it up, & I never heard his explanation!


46 posted on 09/05/2009 8:24:48 AM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: exit82

LOL!

Well stated!


47 posted on 09/05/2009 8:26:18 AM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: jen0517

Well, I guess I will give comcast a reprieve then...I was going to call & give them holy hell this morning.


48 posted on 09/05/2009 8:27:40 AM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: Atom Smasher

Looks “fishy”, send it to “zero’s” snitch site.


49 posted on 09/05/2009 8:28:10 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: Atom Smasher

Just before the ads took over the interview, I did hear him say that he wished people would read his comments in context, rather than the blurb on the book or what other people said that he wrote. I don’t want to buy his book, so thanks to the ads, I don’t know what he actually wrote in context, and if reading it in context changes the meaning significantly. He did look uncomfortable, though, I thought.


50 posted on 09/05/2009 8:28:32 AM PDT by MizSterious (Do you not think an angel rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm? John Page, 1744-1808)
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