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'FOX News Reporting: Do You Know What Textbooks Your Children Are Really Reading?'
Fox News ^ | Sept. 4, 2009 | Fox News

Posted on 09/06/2009 6:23:17 AM PDT by Freedom Dignity n Honor

Host Tucker Carlson, asked experts, teachers, publishers and parents the same question: "Do you know what is inside your children's textbooks?" From kindergarten through college, we found staggering errors and omissions which may be pushing agendas, hidden and otherwise.

We spoke to the author of "The Language Police," education historian Diane Ravitch, who said textbook publishers censor images or words they deem to be controversial in children’s textbooks. She told us that publishers pander to special interest groups, and assemble bias and sensitivity review committees. These committees decide what words to ban or redefine, and even what images are deemed offensive.

And we examined some college textbooks both in print and in digital forms. We found a glaring mistake in an expensive history book written by Alan Brinkley, Provost at New York’s Columbia University.

And in Fairfax County Virginia, questions remain about what textbooks are used in the private Islamic Saudi Academy. The ISA teaches about 1000 students each year pre-K — 12. Questions have been raised about its textbooks at least since 2006.

This summer, Ahmed Omar Abu Ali, ISA’s 1999 valedictorian, was sentenced to life in prison for his role in a 2002 Al Qaeda plot to assassinate President George W. Bush.

The ISA is wholly owned by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and teaches students from textbooks, which according to a report by a Saudi scholar interviewed by FOX News, continues to “propagate an ideology of hate to the unbeliever...

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We tracked down two American college professors who were paid by the ISA to review these textbooks. They signed a letter obtained by FOX News that the ISA's 2008-2009 textbooks' do not contain inflammatory material…” One of them sat down for an interview; the other refused.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: crushislam; fairfaxcounty; godsgravesglyphs; indoctorination; indoctrination; isa; islam; school; textbook; tm
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To: wintertime
Sorry if you thought I expected you to; ‘defend a strawman of my creation’.

I just don't think of anything as “free”.

I think that those who receive anything at no cost to themselves don't appreciate it's importance.

I also think it necessary to start all sentences with “I think” as so few people realize all thoughts are filtered through personal bias. One can only speak for one's self.

151 posted on 09/07/2009 8:18:06 AM PDT by BabsC
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To: SUSSA
We agree in the main. The free enterprise system is already killing the government school system. Our first line has to be keeping the internet tax free.

Next, we must undo laws that grant a teaching monopoly to unions and government schools. This will include: vouchers, eliminating certification for teaching (this will partially be achieved through home schooling support and the automation of so many learning programs - foreign languages, spelling, rote mathematics, etc.), creating educational choice, etc. This is the trickiest part.

The unions and teachers have a death grip on legislatures and school boards. Contracts are long term and built to cause maximum pain to busy parents, i.e. they are set up to expire right as school starts over the summer so that when school starts so do the strikes.

The libs have created a tangled web to reinforce their beliefs and control. We need to untagle it carefully.

152 posted on 09/07/2009 8:20:30 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

The unions and the classroom bureaucrats (teachers) are one and the same. Too few people understand that. And you’re right they have a death grip on the political hacks.

They turn out in mass to vote out anyone who tries to fix the schools and they use their position in the classroom to spread the union’s socialist line.

A few years ago a friend of mine pulled his kids out of government schools after his son’s classroom bureaucrat told the kids that people against a school tax increase were trying to ruin the schools and ruin the quality of education in town.

When he told me, I just laughed and asked, “what did you expect when you dumped your kids in a socialist school?”


153 posted on 09/07/2009 8:35:49 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: ync1994
I fantasize that if I were a billionaire, I would buy up these old school buildings I see around my area and start america-friendly, private schools.
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Why buy brick and mortar? Why adopt an outmoded Prussian, military style, lock-step learning paradigm? With today's technology we can abandon the brick and mortar school.

I suggest that conservative educational foundations could issue grants to individual conservative teachers. These teachers would open tuition-free one room school houses, mini-schools, or homeschool co-ops. They should require no more zoning and regulations than a typical day care center, or home baby sitting service.

Think about this. Children could move at their own pace. They would have the time to fully master a area before moving on to the next level.

My own kids were homeschooled. By age 15 all three had finished all college general courses and Calculus III. By the age of 18 two had finished B.S. degrees in mathematics. By age 20 one child had a masters degree in math.

The conservative educational foundation could certify the teacher, inspect the facilities, test the students, and approve the curriculum. The foundation would also run larger scale sports teams, and theater, dance, and arts programs.

154 posted on 09/07/2009 8:37:42 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: Freedom Dignity n Honor

Starrett actually said this to try to defuse the horrors these textbooks include:

“textbooks are not causal agents, they do not make people do anything.”

What a dumbass. Paid propagandist for the Saudis or the Turks.


155 posted on 09/07/2009 8:38:41 AM PDT by eleni121 (The New Byzantium - resurrect it!)
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To: wintertime; All

Sounds good to me. Wish I had alot of money to donate.


156 posted on 09/07/2009 8:43:22 AM PDT by ync1994
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To: SUSSA
The sentiment is with us, but people struggle to think outside the government school's box. We have to show them a way in which: A) They can get better schools and the same or better babysitting aspects provided by government schools and B) It won't cost them a penny more.

Too few people are willing or able to home school, but I've never met a person who criticized the home school curriculum - real math, real grammar, phonics and quality reading materials and history that recognizes the truth behind the success of America (& Western Civ): Christianity, Liberty and the Free Market.

We'll win, but we have to do it incrementally, use technology to our advantage, and stay positive. We want RINOs, Dems and independents on our side - It is for the children afterall!

157 posted on 09/07/2009 8:45:09 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: wintertime
By age 15 all three had finished all college general courses and Calculus III. By the age of 18 two had finished B.S. degrees in mathematics. By age 20 one child had a masters degree in math.

That is incredibly impressive. Finishing Calculus by 16 is more the norm. How did you do the college general courses? AP? CLEP?

158 posted on 09/07/2009 8:47:50 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: ContraryMary

We have a Christian school here and it’s been going for 26 years now. It’s been a blessing to the parents who send their kids here. I wish more could see the value of a Christian education.


159 posted on 09/07/2009 8:57:52 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: ync1994

Christian schools can hire people who are certainly qualified to teach but don’t go through teaching colleges. Our school has great teachers who never graduated from a teaching college. Unfortunately they don’t get the money teachers from public schools get, but they are great teachers who believe in what they are doing, giving kids a great education from a Christian viewpoint.


160 posted on 09/07/2009 9:01:43 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: 1010RD
Morally we are correct, but you'll not pry middle-class entitlements easily out of the hands of those recipients. They are between a rock and a hard place.
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Long established institutions can suddenly lose their legitimacy almost overnight. It all starts with an idea. Just ask Martin Luther.

Where there are vouchers, tax credits, and charters, there are LONG LONG waiting lists of children with parents desperate to get their children into these schools. These parents are highly well organized politically, and politicians will not be deaf to their pitiful pleas.

I am also encouraged that in one Los Angeles high school it was the **teachers** who voted for and did get a switch to become a Green Dot charter. Amazing! **Teachers** did this!

Of all the programs, I favor tax-credits the most. Hopefully, these programs ( vouchers, tax credits, and charters) will build an infrastructure of small schools that can later be fully privatized.

As the infrastructure grows, middle class families should be expected to take on more of the burden of paying tuition to attend. As it is now, some government schools expect parents to pay for all extra curricular costs, and some even mandate that parents pay several hundred dollars each year to rent textbooks for their children.

If parents ( in some states) are required to pay for book rental, why not bus transportation, or energy and heating/airconditioning “surcharges”, and then finally full-blown tuition?

Conservatives should also apply pressure on the government school institution from the private side.

Private conservative educational foundations could award grants to individual teachers. The teachers would open one room school houses, mini-schools, and homeschool co-ops. The foundations would certify the teacher, test the students, and certify the curriculum.

This would completely eliminate all the expense of brick and mortar. These “mini-schools” would have no more regulation or expense than the typical day care center or home-run baby sitting business.

Private conservative educational foundations should also run sports leagues, theater, dance, and arts programs. It is amazing how much “rah-rah” support sports generates for the typical government school, the rug needs to pulled from under this government monopoly.

Then there is the continued growth and **outstanding** success of homeschooling. It continues growing 7 to 15% each year. Estimates are now 3 to 5 million children are fully or partially homeschooled.

Chip, chip, chip, nibble, nibble, nibble! Even a lowly woodpecker can bring down a great big house, if he pecks away at the right spot.

161 posted on 09/07/2009 9:02:02 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: 1010RD
That is incredibly impressive.
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Homeschoolers are doing it all the time. That is why we must consider abandoning brick and mortar, and lock step progress through the years.

Regarding getting into college:

I had to go back to work briefly in order to work the number of hours needed to maintain my professional license. So...I took my 3 homeschoolers over to the community college to have them tested. I wanted to know what grade they would be.

My kids at ages ( 13, and 12) did soooo well that the community college adviser suggested enrolling them in the college. When the youngest turned 13 she did the same.

There is perfectly wonderful and inexpensive curriculum available thanks to homeschooling. This is why I believe conservatives, if they start private educational foundations, should abandon the idea of brick and mortar schools. Why not just fund the teacher? She could run her school in her home, a day care center, as part of a dance studio, or a store front office.

Why should the zoning and health regulations for this type of “mini-school” be any more onerous than for someone running a baby sitting service in their home, or dance studio, or Sylvan tutoring center?

162 posted on 09/07/2009 9:11:09 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: ync1994
Sounds good to me. Wish I had alot of money to donate.
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It doesn't need to be an outright donation. You could buy an annuity. Many colleges, universities, hospitals, and churches do this now. It is like a retirement fund.

You buy the annuity in one bulk payment, or contribute monthly over many years, and when you retire the annuity pays you an agreed upon monthly allotment. This money is used to support your retirement. When you die, the capital that remains goes to the charity.

My husband and I have bought an annuity through our church. We get to live on the interest and some of the principle, and when we die our “donation” ( what remains of the capital) goes to our church. This way we can be generous to our church and still make reasonably sure that we have enough retirement income coming in monthly.

People do not need to be rich to fund private K-12 education. All that is needed is for someone with the know-how and the leardership to set it up.

163 posted on 09/07/2009 9:19:35 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: BabsC
I think that those who receive anything at no cost to themselves don't appreciate it's importance.
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I agree with you on this point. Eventually, if government school institution could be totally shut down, the existing private system would charge tuition.

Howerever...There is a difference from accepting a private charity ( which is what the private schools would be) and taking a tuition-free service from the government. With private schools the child would be encouraged to feel **gratitude** for another’s generous donation. In the government's tuition-free schools the child is taught that it is his **right** for the government to force money from his neighbor to pay for something his parents want for free.

Private tuition-free schools generate attitudes of gratitude.

Government tuition-free schools generate a belief in entitlement for the government to enslave other people's labor, life, and money.

The government schools are **charging** zero tuition at the door for the parent. If a system of private schools is going to compete against the government price-fixed monopoly, it will need to match the government's fee of zero.

Please do not confuse the government school's **charge** of free with what it **costs** to run the government school. It actually **costs** the taxpayer a lot to run these government schools.

164 posted on 09/07/2009 9:34:11 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: wintertime

Thank you for that clarification.

I now understand and agree.


165 posted on 09/07/2009 10:15:08 AM PDT by BabsC
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To: eleni121

You left out where he insulted Fox News viewers in between those words.


166 posted on 09/08/2009 8:54:35 AM PDT by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: wintertime
Wisdom is the reward of many years of experience

Having read many of your interesting posts on homeschooling, I take what you say (about that) very seriously. I have seen that you indeed have a lot of wisdom on this subject and you make many thought-provoking comments that seem to contain a great deal of truth.

The reason I am responding so late is that your last post did have a big impact on my thinking.

While it is OK to introduce children to certain academic materials (in a playful way), if they don’t take an interest in it, it is best to wait. These young years are better spent in loosely supervised unstructured **play**.

I can see a lot of signs that my son is ready to learn to read and interested in doing so. And he was ready last year to do the math problems he will have in school this year. The thing that worries me about the public school is that he will get turned off by the institution aspect, the structure, which indeed is effected at the expense of play.

I was going to respond to various other parts of your last post, but rather than bothering you with that, I would like like to ask you just one question:

What do you think of TV?

167 posted on 09/24/2009 1:16:08 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: wideminded
What do you think of TV?
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Please remember that being bored is **good**! Being bored is an uncomfortable state for a child and it prompts him to play, be creative with and art projects, practice and instrument, read, build things, dig holes,..etc.

I am a health professional and until my homeschoolers were about 7, 6, and 5, I had a small office that occupied the first floor of our home.

One day when the children were about 5, 4, and 3 I was in my office with one my patients who just happened to be a Mormon missionary. My children were upstairs fighting bitterly over a video game that had been given to them by their grandfather. After I finished with my appointment I said the two young men, “Boys, could you give me a hand?”
The three of us marched upstairs. I unplugged the TV, and to the children's amazement, the two young men carried the TV up to the attic.

The plan was to leave the TV up in the attic for a month to help teach the children that there were **consequences** to making a ruckus while Mom had office hours. However, not having a TV made such a difference in the peace, tranquility, and spirituality of our home that we never hooked up the TV again. Yes, we did use it as a monitor, and during the Olympics we had a fuzzy picture with rabbit ears, but we never again had TV. My husband and I are now grandparents and we still don't have a TV, even for ourselves.

One night a week we watched a video movie that the children had to **earn** by meeting family and homeschooling goals. I did allow them to watch educational videos such as “Nova” anytime they wanted. Our evenings were spent reading with the children individually, working on art projects ( we were volunteers for the library) and playing games as a family.

168 posted on 09/24/2009 6:29:39 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: wideminded

Sorry for the somewhat scrambled post, but I was in a hurry to get out of the house this morning.


169 posted on 09/24/2009 11:21:25 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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