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Netanyahu: The Land of Israel Will Be Divided
IsraelNationalNews.Com ^ | Reported: 09:14 AM - Sep/16/09 | IsraelNN.com

Posted on 09/16/2009 10:49:29 AM PDT by F15Eagle

(IsraelNN.com) The Israel HaYom newspaper reveals a leftist turn for Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu. Speaking in an interview to be published Thursday, the Prime Minister admitted he had come to terms with dividing the Land of Israel. “The land is already divided. How it will [yet] be divided, that is the question,” the newspaper reports.

In the interview, Netanyahu insisted that the new reality required “practical solutions”. “How will the land be divided? Territory-wise, there have been those who predicted the land would be divided according to the 1967 armistice lines, which is not acceptable to me. Israel requires defensible borders.”

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To: F15Eagle

Amen! Prophecy is being Fullfiled...

Praise be to GOD...

Hossana in the Highest!


51 posted on 09/16/2009 11:48:14 AM PDT by TaraP (*Religion* is Man trying to reach GOD.Christ is GOD reaching out to Man.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
”It’s been divided in some manner for centuries"

Indeed it has. The only way to unify it is to boot out literally millions of Arabs. ...something that obviously isn’t seriously complemplated by any Israeli PM. If tried it would unquestionably lead to all-out war, and Israel would be isolated from the entire world. So the options are few:

1) Keep the status quo, which no one besides corrupt Arab governments wants. ...mostly so they can keep playing the Palies-as-victims card to keep their populaces perpetually stirred up.

2) An all-out war and then forced evacuation of millions of Arabs to neighboring (and militarily defeated) states. Or break out the neutron bombs and be done with 'em. As I mentioned, that’s not going to happen.

3) Give the Arab squatters their state, but draw the lines to your advantage the best you can. ...with huge buffer zones. And if trouble ensues, annihilate the new state. This is the option Bibi has chosen.

52 posted on 09/16/2009 11:48:25 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Convert from ECUSA

Very big things, and very big fan.


53 posted on 09/16/2009 11:48:37 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (We're winning.) (Please visit the Citizen Media at www.AIPNEWS.com)
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To: carton253

I assume you’re being sarcastic. If not, then glad to help.

The God of Israel is not joking about dividing His land; that much is for certain. “Political realities” mean nothing to Him.

Leviticus 25:23 KJV

The land shall not be sold for ever: for the land is Mine, for ye are strangers and sojourners with Me.


54 posted on 09/16/2009 11:50:55 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: F15Eagle

Interesting! I never caught that one. Hmmmmm....


55 posted on 09/16/2009 11:51:08 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Mr. Mojo

complemplated = contemplated


56 posted on 09/16/2009 11:51:10 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: F15Eagle

Now, if we could just fill up the land with Evangelical Christians instead of the soft-socialists that inhabit it now... then perhaps your preaching will fall on hearing ears.


57 posted on 09/16/2009 11:54:34 AM PDT by carton253 (Ask me about Throw Away the Scabbard - a Civil War alternate history.)
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To: F15Eagle

I could never go around lying to people everyday. I doubt you could either.


58 posted on 09/16/2009 11:54:39 AM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: Mr. Mojo
Give the Arab squatters their state, but draw the lines to your advantage the best you can. ...with huge buffer zones. And if trouble ensues, annihilate the new state. This is the option Bibi has chosen

And that will have disastrous consequences (eventually, but "peace" at first) the world cannot imagine. As to what the initiating event (which is also by a lie, that causes the nations to move against Israel in Zechariah 14, I don't know what that event is. Whatever the lies are, they are spoken of in Revelation 16.
59 posted on 09/16/2009 11:55:40 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: F15Eagle

Revelation 16:12-14 (King James Version)

12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.


60 posted on 09/16/2009 11:56:05 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: Islaminaction

Nope. Don’t think I could be a politician.


61 posted on 09/16/2009 11:56:44 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: F15Eagle

No doubt. There are no good options, which was my point. If there were, one would’ve been chosen long ago.


62 posted on 09/16/2009 11:57:00 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

Which is really the only option he has.


63 posted on 09/16/2009 11:58:49 AM PDT by carton253 (Ask me about Throw Away the Scabbard - a Civil War alternate history.)
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To: F15Eagle

Let’s hope this is a feint. I can;t imagine Bibi wants Obama to succeed.

Bibi knows he has to deal mitiarily with Iran. Maybe this way, he lulls everyone into a false sense of security.

When we stand for Israel, I’m sure we will be called racists once again, but who cares? What is right, is right.


64 posted on 09/16/2009 11:58:53 AM PDT by exit82 (Sarah Palin is President No. 45. Get behind her, GOP, or get out of the way.)
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To: carton253

Well the Scripture doesn’t say that about the land at that time.

But, hey, laugh it off at your own peril. You have reasoned that dividing Israel makes sense. I don’t disagree it’s a huge problem.

But if the God of Israel says not to divide His land and that He will cut to pieces those that burden themselves with Jerusalem (Zechariah 12) then I believe Him.

You must choose for yourself and it appears you have.


65 posted on 09/16/2009 12:00:20 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: F15Eagle

So, I guess you’ll be on the next El-Al flight to Tel Aviv to help defend the country.


66 posted on 09/16/2009 12:00:58 PM PDT by carton253 (Ask me about Throw Away the Scabbard - a Civil War alternate history.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Israel’s only option is to not divide the land. War? No doubt.

But they are war-weary. But they have, by the hand of God, defeated the Arabs every single time.

A nation fighting against Israel fights against the God of Israel.

Israel is the Apple of His Eye.

When the (Persians) Iranians try to launch a nuke at Israel, they will receive unimaginable destruction that leaves but a sixth part of them (Ezekiel 38).

I can’t believe Israel will even allow them to put a nuke on a missile, but I don’t know with ObaHamas in office.


67 posted on 09/16/2009 12:04:05 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: fishtank

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ZINGO!


68 posted on 09/16/2009 12:04:46 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: carton253

America has come to Israel’s defense for a long time.

You think the Arabs are going to stop because they get a Pali state?

You are seriously deceived.


69 posted on 09/16/2009 12:05:42 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: carton253

You’d better take a look at the islamic hadiths. They are written to kill every Jew at the Last Hour.

You are seriously deceived to think you can make real peace with the forces of allah.


Jihad the Best Deed - Hadiths say Muslims will kill all Jews at the Last Hour

Hadith Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 176:
Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar:

Allah’s Apostle said, “You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, ‘O ‘Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.’ “

Hadith Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 177:
Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah’s Apostle said, “The (Final) Hour (last human battle on Earth) will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”

Hadith Sahih Bukhari Volume 2, Book 26, Number 595:
Narrated ‘Aisha:

(the mother of the faithful believers) I said, “O Allah’s Apostle! We consider Jihad as the best deed.” The Prophet said, “The best Jihad (for women) is Hajj Mabrur. “

Hadith Sahih Bukhari Volume 2, Book 26, Number 594:
Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet was asked, “Which is the best deed?” He said, “To believe in Allah and His Apostle.” He was then asked, “Which is the next (in goodness)?” He said, “To participate in Jihad in Allah’s Cause.” He was then asked, “Which is the next?” He said, “To perform Hajj-Mabrur. “

Hadith Sahih Bukhari [4:56:791] Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar: I heard Allah’s Apostle saying, “The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, ‘O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!’ “

Hadith Sahih Muslim [41:6981] Ibn ‘Umar reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: You will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me); kill him.”

Hadith Sahih Muslim [41:6982] Ubaidullah has reported this hadith with this chain of transmitters (and the Words are): “There is a Jew behind me.”

Hadith Sahih Muslim [41:6983] Abdullah b. ‘Umar reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: “You and the Jews would fight against one another until a stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; come and kill him.”

Hadith Sahih Muslim [41:6984] Abdullah b. ‘Umar reported that Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: “The Jews will fight against you and you will gain victory over them until the stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; kill him.”

Hadith Sahih Muslim [41:6985] Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: “The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.”


70 posted on 09/16/2009 12:07:17 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: F15Eagle
Israel’s only option is to not divide the land.

You're missing the point. Israel already is divided. ...as Bibi pointed out. As long as Gaza and the W. Bank are infested with millions of Arabs, Israel is divided. It's a fact. So the only way to undivide it is to either move them all or kill them all. You know of any Israeli PM who'd seriously consider doing either? Neither do I.

71 posted on 09/16/2009 12:08:10 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: F15Eagle

Yes, because from one thread on Free Republic, you know all about me.


72 posted on 09/16/2009 12:11:09 PM PDT by carton253 (Ask me about Throw Away the Scabbard - a Civil War alternate history.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

No I’m not missing that at all. They have been regaining land including the capture of Jerusalem in 1967. Then they immediately GAVE 1/2 back.

God said He would make Jerusalem a burdensome stone.

And it is.

It is the Antichrist confirming the covenant (Daniel 9:26-27) and dividing the land (via some method) in Daniel 11:36-39 that is the concern.


73 posted on 09/16/2009 12:11:40 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: F15Eagle

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN! AMEN! AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!


74 posted on 09/16/2009 12:11:40 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: F15Eagle
Did we? In 1956? In 1967? In 1973? In 1982? During the '90's?

But what do I know. Being deceived and all.

75 posted on 09/16/2009 12:12:45 PM PDT by carton253 (Ask me about Throw Away the Scabbard - a Civil War alternate history.)
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To: carton253

Please get off the personal insults and flaming.

God said the Antichrist (in context) will divide His land.

The same God that said Israel would survive and be reborn as a nation.

He has never been wrong about anything, including Israel.


76 posted on 09/16/2009 12:13:52 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: F15Eagle

The problem remains — what to do with millions of Arab squatters in the W. Bank and Gaza? Any (realistic) ideas? I’m all ears.


77 posted on 09/16/2009 12:14:43 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: F15Eagle; Mr. Mojo
You have not been insulted. Neither have you been flamed.

I'm just hanging around, waiting for you to answer Mr. Mojo's post with more than Zechariah.

78 posted on 09/16/2009 12:15:52 PM PDT by carton253 (Ask me about Throw Away the Scabbard - a Civil War alternate history.)
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To: F15Eagle

I wonder if I should even go to work tomorrow, game over man ...


79 posted on 09/16/2009 12:17:49 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: carton253

Israel was close to being overrun in 1973. That is a fact. Were it not for the resupply then it would have been far, far worse.

And yes, Bush said he was all for a Palestinian state in 2002.

And he was terribly wrong to say such a thing.

Has America been perfect? Far from it. Read what many of us said here about Condi and her Arabist works.

And yes, the whole world will eventually turn against Israel. I’m afraid that probably includes the USA. After all, this country elected ObaHamas who has been on an islamic apology tour spring and early summer.


80 posted on 09/16/2009 12:18:12 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: Scythian

Occupy until He comes.


81 posted on 09/16/2009 12:18:42 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: carton253

The Word of God is the answer to this.

Don’t worry though; you will get your divided Israel.

See if it works out like you think it will.


82 posted on 09/16/2009 12:20:31 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: Mr. Mojo

A solution to islam? There is no solution. There will be war one way or another.

But as we all know, the whole “Palestinian” thing is a lie anyways. The Arabs don’t truly care about the Palestinians. Kuwait deported hundreds of thousands.

It’s all part of weakening Israel for the final assault and making Jerusalem “allah’s undivided capital”.

That’s why they’ve never abandoned these things in their charters.

Islam intends to kill the Jew, destroy the nation of Israel and take back Jerusalem 100%.

Mark it down.

Regular Jew-haters, don’t care about islam, but they hate the Joooooos anyways.


83 posted on 09/16/2009 12:23:59 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: carton253

GOD wil fill up the land with Messianic Jews when all Israel cries out to his son, Baruch Ha Ba Bashem Adanoi!


84 posted on 09/16/2009 12:24:15 PM PDT by cowboyusa
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To: cowboyusa

History teaches us that man learns nothing from history.

Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel

[Editor's Note: Forty-nine years ago last month, the nation Israel was reestablished in the Land. Thirty years ago this month, as a result of the famed Six Day War, Israel regained Biblical Jerusalem, as well as Gaza, the Sinai, and the Golan Heights. Although these areas were part of the original mandated land, and are undeniably essential for Israel's defense, it has become strangely "politically correct" to assume that peace in the Middle East is dependent upon their yielding these lands-the so-called "West Bank"-back to their enemies which are openly committed to their eventual extermination.

The strategic dilemma in the Middle East is strikingly parallel to the tragic and painful lessons of Czechoslovakia. The following is presented in the words of Benjamin Netanyahu, Prime Minister of the State of Israel.1]

Their Strategic Barrier

Czechoslovakia was strategically placed in the heart of Europe, and its conquest was central to Hitler's plans for overrunning Europe. Though small, Czechoslovakia could field over 800,000 men (one of the strongest armies in Europe), and it had a highly efficient arms industry.

To complicate matters from Hitler's point of view, it possessed a formidable physical barrier to his designs in the shape of the Sudeten mountains, which bordered Germany and guarded the access to the Czech heartland and the capital city of Prague only miles away.

A system of fortifications and fortresses had been built in the mountains over many years, making passage by force a very costly proposition, perhaps even impossible. We now know from the Nuremberg trials and other sources that Hitler's generals were utterly opposed to an assault on the Czech fortifications.

Worse from Hitler's point of view, the Western powers had promised at Versailles to guarantee the Czech border against any aggressive attack. France, which in 1938 could field one hundred divisions (an army 50% larger than Germany's), had agreed in writing to come to the Czech's defense, and Britain and Russia were committed to joining in if France did so.

Propaganda vs. Reality

Since an outright military victory seemed impossible, Hitler embarked on an unprecedented campaign to politically force the Czechs to give up the land, and with it any hope of being able to defend their capital or their country.

The inhabitants of the Sudetenland, Hitler said, were predominantly German, and these three million Sudeten Germans deserved-what else?-the right of self-determination and a destiny separate from the other seven million inhabitants of Czechoslovakia; this despite the fact that the country was a democracy and that the Sudeten Germans enjoyed economic prosperity and full civil rights.

To buttress his claim, Hitler organized and funded the creation of a new Sudeten political leadership that would do his bidding, which was, in the words of Sudeten leader Konrad Henlein, to "demand so much that we can never be satisfied."2

William Shirer, who was a reporter in Europe at the time, succinctly summarized it:

Thus the plight of the German minority in Czechoslovakia was merely a pretext ... for cooking up a stew in a land he coveted, undermining it, confusing and misleading its friends and concealing his real purpose ... to destroy the Czechoslovak state and grab its territories .... The leaders of France and Great Britain did not grasp this. All through the spring and summer, indeed almost to the end, Prime Minister Chamberlain and Premier Daladier apparently sincerely believed, along with most of the rest of the world, that all Hitler wanted was justice for his kinsfolk in Czechoslovakia.3

In addition, Hitler backed the establishment of a Sudeten liberation movement called the Sudeten Free Corps, and he instigated a series of well-planned and violent uprisings that the Czechs were compelled to quell by force.4 Hitler's propaganda chief, Goebbels, orchestrated a fearful propaganda campaign of fabricated "Czech terror" and oppression of the Sudeten Germans.

The Czech refusal to allow the Sudeten territories to return to their "rightful" German owners, Hitler prattled, was proof that the Czechs were the intransigent obstacle to peace. For what choice would Germany have but to come to the assistance of its oppressed brethren living under intolerable Czech occupation?

Moreover, the Germans reversed causality, claiming that the Czechs were trying to precipitate a European crisis in order to prevent the breakup of their state, that the choice between war and peace in Europe was in Czech hands, and even that "this petty segment of Europe is harassing the human race."5

But there was a simple way to simultaneously avoid war and achieve justice, Hitler said. The Western powers-meaning Britain and France-could force the Czechs to do what was necessary for the sake of peace: Czechoslovakia had to relinquish the "occupied territories."

The Fickle West

And it worked. With astonishing speed, the governments and opinion-makers of the West adopted Hitler's point of view. Throughout 1937 and 1938, mounting pressure was exerted on Czechoslovakia by the leading Western powers "to go to the utmost limit" to meet Sudeten demands.6 Czech leader Edvard Benes was reviled as intransigent.

The Western press published articles lamenting Czech shortsightedness and its total disregard for the cause of peace in Europe, as well as the injustice of not allowing the Sudetenland to be "returned" to Germany (despite the fact that it had never been part of Germany).

The British envoy who was dispatched to investigate the situation even went so far as to demand that Czechoslovakia "so remodel her foreign relations as to give assurances to her neighbors that she will in no circumstances attack them or enter into any aggressive action against them."7

Land For Peace

On September 18, 1938, under the gun of Hitler's September 28 deadline, a meeting was held between the British Cabinet and the French prime minister and foreign minister, in which it was determined that democratic Czechoslovakia must accede to Hitler's demands.

Despite the fact that the West had promised in writing at Versailles to go to war to defend Czechoslovakia's borders, it agreed that the Czechs must give up the Sudetenland for "the maintenance of peace and the safety of Czechoslovakia's vital interests."

In return, the Czechs would receive from Britain and France "an international guarantee of the new boundaries... against unprovoked aggression."8

If the Czechs did not accept the plan and thereby save the peace of Europe, they were informed by the leaders of the free world, they would be left to fight Hitler alone. In Neville Chamberlain's immortal words: "It is up to the Czechs now."9

But in fact it was not even left to the Czechs. Chamberlain realized that if the Czechs were to fight, France and Britain might be forced to fight too. As the Czechs and Germans mobilized, Chamberlain became increasingly hysterical about averting war by buying off Hitler with the Czech defensive wall. He shuttled repeatedly to Germany to try to arrange the pay-off. Finally, minutes before his September 28 deadline, Hitler "agreed" to Chamberlain's proposal for an international peace conference to bring peace to Central Europe.

At Munich, Britain and France pleaded with Hitler for 11 hours to "compromise" and take the Sudetenland peacefully. In the end Hitler agreed.

Having grasped the fact that his supposed democratic allies had allowed themselves to become tools in Hitler's hand, Prime Minister Benes announced Czechoslovakia's capitulation to the demands of the totalitarians. "We have been basely betrayed," he said.10

The Western leaders returned in triumph to London and Paris. In government, in parliament, and in the press, Chamberlain and Daladier were praised, cheered, and thanked for having traded land for peace. "My friends," said Chamberlain, "I believe it is peace in our time."

For when they shall say, 'Peace and safety'; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. - 1 Thessalonians 5:3

Phase Two

On September 30, the Czech army began its withdrawal from the Sudetenland - from the strategic passes, the mountain fortresses, and the major industrial facilities that would have been the backbone of Czechoslovakia's effort to defend itself. But this was only Phase One of Hitler's plan.

The German annexation of the Sudetenland was followed by a renewed list of demands on the Czechs. The Nazis continued to invent incidents of violence and oppression against the ethnic German minority in what was left of the Czech state.

Less than six months later, on March 15, 1939, the Nazi war machine rolled through the rest of Czechoslovakia. Shorn of their defenses in the Sudeten mountains, the Czechs were now powerless to resist. Phase Two had been implemented.

The Western powers again did nothing. Once more, all their assurance proved worthless.

Grave and Present Danger

Unfortunately, the parallels to today's effort to gouge Judea and Samaria out of Israel are all too easy to see.

Like Czechoslovakia, Israel is a small democracy with a powerful army much aided by defensive terrain. Like the Sudeten district, the West Bank is mountainous territory, a formidable military barrier that guards the slender and densely populated Israeli shoreline and Israel's capital city.

Like the Germans, the Arabs11 understand that as long as Israel controls these mountains, it will not be overrun. They understand too that a military campaign to seize these mountains is at present unthinkable, and that Israel's removal from them can be achieved only by the application of irresistible political pressure by the West on Israel to withdraw.

The Arab regimes have therefore embarked on a campaign to persuade the West that these Arab inhabitants of these mountains (like the Sudeten Germans, comprising roughly a third of the total population) are a separate people that deserve the right of self-determination - and that unless such self-determination is granted, the Arab states will have no choice but to resort to war to secure it.

As in the case of Czechoslovakia, Israel's insistence on not parting with territories strategically vital for its defenses is presented as the obstacle to peace.

Echoing Munich, the Arabs repeatedly advocate "active" American (and European) involvement, in the hope that an American Chamberlain can be found to force "the intransigent party" to capitulate where it is otherwise unwilling to compromise its own security.

That the Arabs have borrowed directly from the Nazis in this, as in so many of their other devices against Israel, is not surprising.

What is surprising, or at least disappointing, is the speed and readiness with which this transparent ruse has been received, digested, and internalized by the elite of the Western world. Not a day passes without some somber editorial or political comment from august quarters in America and Europe asking Israel to voluntarily accept the same decree that Czechoslovakia was asked to accept.

In 1938, the London Times, the leading newspaper of the world at the time, published a celebrated editorial that summed it all up:

It might be worthwhile for the Czechoslovak government to consider whether they should exclude altogether ... making Czechoslovakia a more homogeneous state by the secession of that fringe of populations who are contiguous to the nation with which they are united by race... The advantages to Czechoslovakia of becoming a homogeneous state might conceivably outweigh the obvious disadvantages of losing the Sudeten German district.12

* * *

The foregoing comments by Benjamin Netanyahu were excerpted from his book published in 1993.

It is astonishing how the Western press has swallowed the PLO line that they are "the oppressed people struggling to be free," that Israel is the aggressor, that forcing Israel to withdraw from its strategic defenses will bring peace, and that the survivors of the Holocaust are now the "bad guys." Amazing.

Yet this is consistent with Biblical prophecy. Jerusalem is prophesied to be " a cup of trembling" to all nations round about ... all that burden themselves with it will be torn to pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it."13

For further discussion of this critical topic, see also our featured briefing package, Betrayal of the Chosen. These issues will also be addressed in our expositional study of Zechariah.

  1. Benjamin Netanyahu, A Place Among the Nations, Bantam Books, New York, 1993, pp. 154-159. (The subtitles and Scripture reference have been added.)
  2. William Shirer, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich: A History of Nazi Germany, Ballantine, New York, 1950, p. 448.
  3. Ibid., pp.488-89.
  4. Ibid., pp.524-26.
  5. Ibid., pp.490, 519, 538.
  6. Ibid., p.489.
  7. Ibid., pp.522, 526.
  8. Ibid., p.527.
  9. Benes quoted Ibid., p.535.
  10. Times quoted Ibid., pp.529, 564.
  11. The term "Arab" is used in a condescension to the Western press, and thus to common (illiterate) usage for the enemies of Israel. There is no common ethnic or geographic discriminator: they are Muslims.
  12. Quoted in Ibid., p.518.
  13. Zechariah 12:2,3.

85 posted on 09/16/2009 12:25:12 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: F15Eagle; Mr. Mojo
If it weren't for Kissinger's demands that Israel take the first blows, Israel might not have been so overrun and desperate for spare parts.

If Kissinger had let Israel finish off Egypt at the end of the war, then perhaps the issue would have been solved.

No, America has not been perfect, but it isn't really about America.

It's about Israel being like a dog on a leash. They are only allowed so far in self-defense before the world jerks them back to Israel's detriment.

There are Palestinians in huge population centers in Israel. This is a fact that Israel must deal with. The land is already divided. What do you propose Bibi do with them?

How do you propose that Israel fight the whole world?

And spare me another posting of Haddiths and Scripture. I know them.

I would just like a simple answer to Mr. Mojo's question.

86 posted on 09/16/2009 12:28:10 PM PDT by carton253 (Ask me about Throw Away the Scabbard - a Civil War alternate history.)
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To: pillut48

Begin lead the Irgun - Rahm’s father is a member. Begin gave up land for peace.

I saw this coming...
There was an interesting article posted weeks ago and I made the comment that it made Bibi sound like the antichrist . DOes anyone remember that article. I can’t remember the details but it was talking about Obama and Bibi and the AntiChrist.


87 posted on 09/16/2009 12:29:49 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: F15Eagle
Islam intends to kill the Jew, destroy the nation of Israel and take back Jerusalem 100%.

Of course. ..preachin' to the choir. And yes, I also agree a major war is an inevitable over there. ...and probably soon.

Personally, I'm am as big an advocate for a "Greater Israel" as anyone. ..."from the Nile to the Euphrates." I despise seeing it divided (which it already is). But I'm also sympathetic to Bibi's tough spot. He (and every other Israeli PM) has no desirable options. None.

88 posted on 09/16/2009 12:33:31 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: carton253

Kissinger is a traitor to his own people. He was scum for saying that. He’s still scum. Thinks Barry can create a “new world order” (Kissinger’s own words).

Israel isn’t fighting the whole world right now. Politically, yes.

But Israel is not *actually* at war with the whole world.

You’re over the top saying Israel has to fight the whole world (they are NOT “fighting the whole world” right now, militarily and you know that).

I’m telling you your “peace deal” WILL result in Israel fighting the whole world. Eventually.

It’s pointless when you don’t believe what the Scripture says.

Like I say; you will get your Palestinian state; I don’t doubt that. I think it quite a real probability.

See if it brings the “peace” you believe it will. For more than 1,260 days.

But it’s all going to play out.


89 posted on 09/16/2009 12:34:50 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: Mr. Mojo

His worst option is to accept this false peace.

Whether it will be on his watch remains to be seen.


90 posted on 09/16/2009 12:36:20 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: F15Eagle
I'm not making a peace deal. I'm sitting in my office posting on Free Republic.

Politically, Israel is at war, yes, and they are losing.

But chin up... eventually, you will get the war you so desperately want.

91 posted on 09/16/2009 12:37:36 PM PDT by carton253 (Ask me about Throw Away the Scabbard - a Civil War alternate history.)
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To: carton253
It's about Israel being like a dog on a leash. They are only allowed so far in self-defense before the world jerks them back to Israel's detriment.

I agree.
92 posted on 09/16/2009 12:38:01 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: carton253

I don’t want the war dude.

I’m only telling you that it is coming and is preceeded by dividing the land under a false peace deal.

You don’t believe that.

It’s like me telling you not to drive over a rusty bridge because it will collapse. You say you are driving over the bridge and that it will collapse because “I wanted it to collapse” when I warned you about it.

No I don’t want to see Armageddon. That doesn’t change what God has said.


93 posted on 09/16/2009 12:41:34 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: F15Eagle
Of course I believe the Bible.

But the point I'm making is simply this.

The land is already divided. There are huge Palestinian populations within Israel's borders. Israel cannot drive them out. They cannot murder them out.

So, the only question that concerns me is what does Bibi do? How can he be held responsible for dividing an already divided land?

94 posted on 09/16/2009 12:49:02 PM PDT by carton253 (Ask me about Throw Away the Scabbard - a Civil War alternate history.)
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To: F15Eagle

I doubt if anyone around here is naive enough to believe that giving the Palies a state will bring peace. ...and Bibi certainly doesn’t believe it either. But as I mentioned, the status quo is unacceptable to just about everyone except Arab despots. And no Israel PM plans on launching a war of annihilation against the W. Bank and Gaza Arabs, nor will those 5 million+ Arabs be moved back to their sandpits of (ancestral) origin. ...much as I’d like to see it.


95 posted on 09/16/2009 12:49:34 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: carton253

I don’t disagree that Bibi is in a tough spot. I think America is turning its back on Israel. I think America is also suffering greatly at this time. Related? Possibly.

Arabs that chose to remain in Israel, despite their brothers pleas to run while they “killed the Jews” in 1948 are (as you know) Israeli citizens, have voting rights, and live in a great place. Even some of them were killed by Yasser Arafat’s jihadist thugs.

It is, in reality, a problem with no solution. Israel should retain sovereign control and absorb these people, BUT, many of them hate Israel (because they’re muslim and yes even some Palestinian “christians” - small “c” on purpose). So that won’t work either.

From a strictly secular viewpoint, I might agree that dividing Israel makes sense. Were it not for the Scriptures, I could almost be talked into it.

But, as we both know, once you have a “Palestinian state” there will be nothing to stop the Arabs from basing first-strike aircraft, armed to the teeth, right inside that “state”.

Think Gaza Strip. Only now dozens of times larger.

Israel can operate, to some degree, militarily in the West Bank, right now.

Once that is a sovereign “state”, the United Nations will declare it an act of “war” should Israel do any pre-emption. After all, the UN cried over the terrorists in Gaza.

What we have here is an extraordinarily complicated problem with no human solution.

And there can be no doubt how quickly the Arabs, yes maybe even Syria and Iran, would begin moving MiG’s, Sukhoi’s, Russian SAM’s and Russian tanks into that Palestinian state.

Clinton gave Arafat’s thugs M16’s and AK47’s under a promise of “peace” and about 93% of the land Arafat said he wanted was offered to him (by Israel). Arafat responded with war in 2000.

Give in to the Arabs: war.

Push back against the Arabs: war.

It’s lose-lose,

I think Bibi’s a great guy. I think he’s succumbing to the pressure. I’m sure ObaHamas is twisting his arm too. Well, that’s been documented in the press.


96 posted on 09/16/2009 1:02:24 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: Mr. Mojo

I think my biggest concern is that the false peace (IF this is it and can’t be certain of course) is what deludes the world.

Who is that man who will step on the world’s stage and “solve the problem of the Middle East”?

Many will worship him. And some percentage will vote for anything “in style” won’t they? (rhetorical, as we’ve already seen that).


97 posted on 09/16/2009 1:04:37 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: F15Eagle
Tick.....Tick.....Tick.....

Maranatha!!

98 posted on 09/16/2009 1:14:36 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (THE ONLY ASTROTURF IN CONGRESS IS FOUND BETWEEN NANCY PELOSI'S EARS!!)
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To: NRA2BFree

Sure seems like it, don’t it?


99 posted on 09/16/2009 1:22:17 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: F15Eagle
Sure seems like it, don’t it?

Yes, it really does. When you look at how many prophecies have been fulfilled, and how many are in the process of being fulfilled, anyone who has read the Bible KNOWS that we are in the End Times. He said to "watch" and the signs would show us when He was coming again. In 1948 when Israel was made a nation for the first time in 2000 years, God's time clock started ticking again! We ARE the generation that will see His return.

100 posted on 09/16/2009 1:53:10 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (THE ONLY ASTROTURF IN CONGRESS IS FOUND BETWEEN NANCY PELOSI'S EARS!!)
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