Skip to comments.Archaeologists find suspected Trojan war-era couple
Posted on 09/22/2009 12:57:53 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
ANKARA (Reuters) Archaeologists in the ancient city of Troy in Turkey have found the remains of a man and a woman believed to have died in 1,200 B.C., the time of the legendary war chronicled by Homer, a leading German professor said on Tuesday.
Ernst Pernicka, a University of Tubingen professor of archaeometry who is leading excavations on the site in northwestern Turkey, said the bodies were found near a defense line within the city built in the late Bronze age.
The discovery could add to evidence that Troy's lower area was bigger in the late Bronze Age than previously thought, changing scholars' perceptions about the city of the "Iliad."
"If the remains are confirmed to be from 1,200 B.C. it would coincide with the Trojan war period. These people were buried near a mote. We are conducting radiocarbon testing, but the finding is electrifying," Pernicka told Reuters in a telephone interview.
Ancient Troy, located in the northwest of modern-day Turkey at the mouth of the Dardanelles not far south of Istanbul, was unearthed in the 1870s by Heinrich Schliemann, the German entrepreneur and pioneering archaeologist who discovered the steep and windy city described by Homer.
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An undated handout picture shows the remains of a man and a woman believed to have died in 1,200 B.C. in the ancient city of Troy in northwestern Turkey. Archaeologists in the ancient city of Troy in Turkey have found the remains of a man and a woman believed to have died in 1,200 B.C., the time of the legendary war chronicled by Homer, a leading German professor said on Tuesday. REUTERS/Project Troy/Handout
Washington Huskies beat the Trojans (AKA rubbers) like a drum last Saturday.
He mite have ment moat.
One thing which has always interested me is the Apostle Paul visited a place called Troias or Troy as we would call it. It was named that because it was located near the ancient city of Troy and in fact it was located near where Troy actually was.
Now if these people knew where the ancient city was located, why did so many experts claim there was no such place? Also maybe they knew exactly where it was located. I wonder if there are any other records other than the Iliad to locate it. I know Schliemann used the description in the Iliad to find it.
Isnt a MOTE a medieval manor house that is surrounded by a MOAT?
I thought “mote” was wrong too, but when I looked it up, one of the meanings was a trench full of water around a castle.
Hmmmm......must be an alternate spelling.
A mote is akin to a log.
What were they suspected of?
I’ll take noat of that.
Let’s just arrest them and put them on trial for war crimes I say!
The writer probably meant “motte,” which is a raised earthwork. So, mound.
Matthew 7-3 "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"
I forgot the mote was the speck...
It stands to reason that these Trojans were not overcome by Huskies since their bones were not consumed.
The Huskies really howled.. A real hard fought game.. they go to Stanford this weekend. 2 and 0 out of that game would be good.. considering the 0 - 12 record last year.
How were they able to even see a ~3200 year old mote?
It’s Washington STATE “cougars” team that eats bones and they stand no chance against the rubbers.
I thought that Troy was in New York state .... hmmm
Actually, I do.
Bons mots only
Korbel works too.
(clink of glass)
is that a couple from the Trojan War Era, or a couple using Trojans just before he shipped out for WWII?
Thanks for clearing that up. At first I thought they were playing a bunch of horny middle aged women.
Archaeologists work on the remains of a man and a woman believed to have died in 1,200 B.C. in the ancient city of Troy in northwestern Turkey in this undated handout photo. Archaeologists in the ancient city of Troy in Turkey have found the remains of a man and a woman believed to have died in 1,200 B.C., the time of the legendary war chronicled by Homer, a leading German professor said on Tuesday. REUTERS/Project Troy/Handout (TURKEY ENVIRONMENT SOCIETY IMAGES OF THE DAY) FOR EDITORIAL USE ONLY. NOT FOR SALE FOR MARKETING OR ADVERTISING CAMPAIGNS
I’ve been following pro football since my college team doesn’t seem able to beat the team from St. Mary’s School for Wayward, Deaf, Blind & Halt Girls.
Because of their invincible elitism. See also: Anthropogenic Global Warming.
No, the real Troy is located in South Alabama.
I specked he did not mean mote.
Oh yeah, the other one ....
And when I read the title, I thought this thread was going to be about condoms. Go figure.
There’s a joke story headline about it on FARK ....
Well, why not. :-D
That was a LONG time ago. Troy was rediscovered in the late 19th century and has slowly been excavated and the theory of 1865 has been mostly confirmed. When I studied history in college (1970s) it was still a subject of controversy, but opinion leaning towards "we found it". Now it seems to have swung decisively to "yep, here it is". Troy the Wikipedia article is decent.
Buried near a tiny dust particle?
That is pretty much my idea of the situation too with a small difference. My impression was that Schliemann’s discovery was pretty much accepted as Troy until fairly recently when much doubt was cast on it.
Then in the last 20 years they have pretty much swung back to agreeing that it really is the site of Troy.
BTW, I was in college about the same time as you and was a Classics major for a while.
A standard biography of Alexander I read tells the story of him visiting the Tomb of Achilles. Perhaps this is apochraphal too, or perhaps not. The story is that he took possession of Achilles breastplate. We will probably never know what percent is real and what fanciful, other than it's neither 0% true nor 100% true.
I too remember reading of Alexander visiting the tomb of Achilles. Of course Alexander thought he was a descendant of both Achilles and Zeus.
My own guess is the tomb and breastplate were the result of local entrepreneurs using the site of Troy to make money from tourists. On the other hand they really did seem to know the location of Troy and time has proven them correct.
Ancient Troy, located in the northwest of modern-day Turkey at the mouth of the Dardanelles not far south of Istanbul, was unearthed in the 1870s by Heinrich Schliemann, the German entrepreneur and pioneering archaeologist who discovered the steep and windy city described by Homer.One of *those* topics. :')
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‘It was built against the will of the immortal gods, and so it did not last for long.’
Since 1988 there has been a German team excavating at Troy, from the University of Tuebingen. It was directed by Manfred Korfmann until his death in 2005, and Ernst Pernicka took over afterwards.
For the latest archaeological reports from Troy, Google "Project Troia" and the website will pop up.
You’re absolutely right. In fact, now that I’ve read the whole thing, I feel like dragging the carcasse of a defeated enemy behind my chariot.
They used a remote camera to see the mote.