Archaeologists find suspected Trojan war-era couple

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[NormsRevenge]

ANKARA (Reuters) – Archaeologists in the ancient city of Troy in Turkey have found the remains of a man and a woman believed to have died in 1,200 B.C., the time of the legendary war chronicled by Homer, a leading German professor said on Tuesday.

Ernst Pernicka, a University of Tubingen professor of archaeometry who is leading excavations on the site in northwestern Turkey, said the bodies were found near a defense line within the city built in the late Bronze age.

The discovery could add to evidence that Troy's lower area was bigger in the late Bronze Age than previously thought, changing scholars' perceptions about the city of the "Iliad."

"If the remains are confirmed to be from 1,200 B.C. it would coincide with the Trojan war period. These people were buried near a mote. We are conducting radiocarbon testing, but the finding is electrifying," Pernicka told Reuters in a telephone interview.

Ancient Troy, located in the northwest of modern-day Turkey at the mouth of the Dardanelles not far south of Istanbul, was unearthed in the 1870s by Heinrich Schliemann, the German entrepreneur and pioneering archaeologist who discovered the steep and windy city described by Homer.

[SunkenCiv]

Ancient Troy, located in the northwest of modern-day Turkey at the mouth of the Dardanelles not far south of Istanbul, was unearthed in the 1870s by Heinrich Schliemann, the German entrepreneur and pioneering archaeologist who discovered the steep and windy city described by Homer.

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[BGHater]

‘It was built against the will of the immortal gods, and so it did not last for long.’

[colorado tanker]

I follow the college game, although every team I follow seems to be having some bad years. Even worse, everyone is worried the Broncos will have a stinky year, so I’d get no solace from the pro game, either.

[colorado tanker]

This thang was just screaming to be posted. :-))

[Verginius Rufus]

The term in Acts 16.8 and 16.11 is Troas (or Troias), the region (the Troad) that includes Troy.

Since 1988 there has been a German team excavating at Troy, from the University of Tuebingen. It was directed by Manfred Korfmann until his death in 2005, and Ernst Pernicka took over afterwards.

For the latest archaeological reports from Troy, Google "Project Troia" and the website will pop up.

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

The Romans believed that they were descended from the Trojans, as shown in the Aenead, So they built a Roman city on the site.

[SunkenCiv]

Figures. ;’)

[SunkenCiv]

You’re absolutely right. In fact, now that I’ve read the whole thing, I feel like dragging the carcasse of a defeated enemy behind my chariot.

[Redcitizen]

They used a remote camera to see the mote.

[afraidfortherepublic]

Mush, Huskies, Mush!

[Verginius Rufus]

There was a Greek city on the site from the 8th century B.C. which is occasionally mentioned in the historical sources (now called Troy VIII). The Roman level is Troy IX.

According to Suetonius, when a deputation from Ilium came to Tiberius to offer the emperor condolences for the recent death of his mother Livia, he replied by offering his sympathies for the loss of their eminent fellow-citizen Hector.

[ApplegateRanch]

Archaeologists find suspected Trojan war-era couple

What are they suspected of, and do the authorities plan on charging them? Hasn't the statue of limitations run out by now?

[ApplegateRanch]

I took a few classes Anthro around that time, as well.

As I remember it, the only controversy was which level was the "real Troy" of the Trojan War; not whether the site itself was the site of Troy.

We need SC to dredge up some of the archival matterial.

[wildbill]

Full article said their lower parts were missing.

Which leads me to the way they were buried and the reason.

I’m wondering if this was a traditional burial in a chamber or could it have been a rush job at the time of a catastrophe (such as a battle) where they lost legs, etc. (maybe a wall or building fell on them?)

Also, didn’t these folk bury their dead in graveyards where many burial chambers are found? Doesn’t sound like that is the case here.

[Nikas777]

Alexander the Great visited Troy and donated his shield for one said to be that of his ancestor Achilles.

Troy existed into the Middle Ages but it probably was not at the original site because the coast moved outward and the original city was deserted.

The coastal city was wiped out by the Muslims.

[Nikas777]

Can I be added to the Catastrophism ping list please.

[Nikas777]

The Romans believed that they were descended from the Trojans, as shown in the Aenead, So they built a Roman city on the site.

The Romans did not re-build Troy evidenced by the fact that Alexander the Great visited the city and went to the temple there to sacrifice. http://www.livius.org/aj-al/alexander/alexander_t03.html In May 334, Alexander invaded Asia. The first town he reached was Troy, where he brought sacrifices to the homeric heroes. The Greek author Plutarch of Chaeronea, describes the events in section 15 of his Life of Alexander. The translation was made by M.M. Austin. Kesik tepe: perhaps the tomb of Achilles Alexander went up to Troy, sacrificed to Athena and poured a libation to the heroes. At the tomb of Achilles, after anointing himself with oil and taking part in a race naked with his Companions, as is the custom, he deposited crowns and remarked how fortunate Achilles was to have had a faithful friend while he was alive and a great herald of his fame after his death. While he was going sightseeing about the town someone asked him whether he wanted to see the lyre of Alexander [i. e. Paris]; he replied that he was not interested in that one, but was looking for the lyre of Achilles, to which he used to sing the glorious deeds of brave heroes.

[SunkenCiv]

Wait a minute... their lower parts missing, and you think it was a rush j-, uh, never mind...

There are some big-ass burial mounds near the sea, more or less overlooking the plain of Troy. I’m pretty sure I don’t remember anyone having excavated those. Would be interesting to take, say, cosmic ray exposure dates of stones included as part of the mound to estimate the age of the mounds themselves.

[SunkenCiv]

Carl Blegen (the American excavator) thought it was Troy VIIa; Dorpfeld (the second German, Schliemann’s protege’) thought it was Troy VI. I agree with Dorpfeld. :’) The “Jewels of Helen” were stolen by the Red Army at the close of WWII (honestly, who can blame them?) but were probably grave goods dug down into the lower levels from Troy III or IV. :’)