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Could Mitch Daniels and Jeb Bush lead the GOP back to the White House?
http://nwitimes.com/news/local/article_7b4c713f-d3bc-5e17-bdec-1b8d75f36410.html ^ | Sunday, September 6, 2009 | Dan Carden

Posted on 09/23/2009 2:47:27 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

INDIANAPOLIS | Did Hoosiers get a first look last week at The Ticket?

Mitch Daniels. Jeb Bush. 2012?

Both Republicans frequently deny seeking higher office, but each man also told The Times the other would be a strong candidate for a presidential run.

"If he wants it, sure," Bush said of Daniels' national prospects.

"I honestly believe he is the best governor in the country in terms of the courage of his convictions, intelligence, strategic thinking," Bush said.

At the same time, Daniels said he's disappointed Bush says he's ruled out a future in government.

"I understand his answer, but I hope one day he'll rule it in," Daniels said.

"I think, honestly, he's the best I've seen in either party. He's smart, very principled, very open-minded, very practical, and he's proven in both private and public life that he can get results," Daniels said of Bush.

Daniels, an Indianapolis Republican who won re-election in 2008, is barred by term limits from running for governor again in 2012. Bush, the brother of former President George W. Bush and son of former President George H. W. Bush, served as governor of Florida from 1999 to 2007.

Bush now heads the Foundation for Excellence in Education, which promotes school-reform plans, as he did at Indiana's Education Roundtable in Indianapolis on Wednesday.

"I can tell him there's life after being governor," Bush said of Daniels. "It may not be as cool as being governor, but there's life after that."

Speaking to reporters after the event, Daniels and Bush looked comfortable standing together at the same podium, each wearing a single-breasted dark suit and blue shirt. While Bush stands a full head taller than Daniels, their friendly rapport was evident in the casual back-and-forth conversation between the two Republicans.

Indiana Treasurer Richard Mourdock says he hopes both men, but especially Daniels, will seriously consider a national run in 2012.

"I would love to see Gov. Daniels do it. He has so many qualities that this country is absolutely crying out for right now," Mourdock said.

And with Daniels at the top of the ticket, Mourdock sees Bush as a good pick for VP.

"When you start talking about vice presidents, oftentimes it isn't so much what they can do, it's what can they bring," Mourdock said.

In addition to Florida's 27 electoral votes, Mourdock said Bush also brings an experienced "Bush organization" that's already put two family members in the White House. Daniels was budget director under President George W. Bush from 2001 to 2003.

But Purdue University political scientist William Shaffer cautions it's probably too early to be speculating on 2012.

"That's a long way away. Who would have thought at this point as far in advance of the 2008 election that Barack Obama would even be a candidate," Shaffer said. "The world will change presidential politics between now and then."

But should he run, Daniels' biggest problem is that he's largely unknown. Shaffer said.

"That's one of the big hurdles, obviously. If somebody jumps in, they really have to become known. You'd think a governor of a state would be, but they're not, they're really not," Shaffer said.

At the same time, Daniels' relative national anonymity could also prove to be an asset, Shaffer said.

"I think part of it reflects a weakness of the Republican Party right at this point in time. Mitch Daniels might look good to a lot of people when you also mention Sarah Palin, for example," he said.

Daniels, who in his final re-election ad vowed that "governor is the only office I've run for or ever will," left the state Saturday for a 10-day trade mission to Asia. He's hoping to secure new jobs and investments in Indiana from companies based in China and Japan.

On the one hand, that is what governors do. On the other, foreign negotiations sure look rather presidential.


TOPICS: US: Florida; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: 2012gopprimary; bush; daniels2012; getlostrino; gopcomeback; idiotschoice; jebbush; jebbush2012; mitchdaniels; nomorebushes; nomorerinos; sourcetitlenoturl; stayoutdabushes; vivalaraza
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To: MinorityRepublican
A HUGH resounding absolutely.....NO!!
51 posted on 09/23/2009 3:30:30 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: MinorityRepublican

Wanna see the birth of a 3rd party?

Put Jeb Bush on the national pubbie ticket.


52 posted on 09/23/2009 3:31:15 PM PDT by Swing_Thought (The doorstep to the temple of wisdom is a knowledge of our own ignorance. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: 50mm

53 posted on 09/23/2009 3:31:35 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Swing_Thought

54 posted on 09/23/2009 3:32:27 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: RoseofTexas

55 posted on 09/23/2009 3:35:23 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Trying to push RINOs on conservatives is futile. We can smell the stench through our computer screens.


56 posted on 09/23/2009 3:36:22 PM PDT by 50mm (AARP is a steaming pile)
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To: rsobin
National Review was tooting Daniels conservative horn a few months back. I came away with the impression that he had a Rino underbelly that gave me pause. Made unprincipled decisions when politically expedient. As for Bush; enough already.
57 posted on 09/23/2009 3:40:37 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA
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To: MinorityRepublican
Please, not another Bush! Who can forget Jeb slobbering all over in illegal aliens. His comments were nauseating.
58 posted on 09/23/2009 3:42:14 PM PDT by apocalypto
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To: rsobin

Molly Ivins had one thing right.... no more shrubs.


59 posted on 09/23/2009 3:43:11 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: Miss Marple

What’s the scoop on Daniels from your perspective?


60 posted on 09/23/2009 3:43:58 PM PDT by deport
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To: MinorityRepublican

The Bush name is toxic in national politics for at least a half-life of 200 years.

Sorry Jeb. You might have made a better prez than your bro had the party followed your family’s advice put your name up first, but now that GWB’s trashed the family name, forget about rising to the top yourself -— EVER.


61 posted on 09/23/2009 3:44:24 PM PDT by beckett (Amor Fati)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The first two Bush’s weren’t exactly conservatives. Let’s see if we can’t get us one of those.


62 posted on 09/23/2009 3:46:40 PM PDT by SampleMan (No one should die on a gov. waiting list., or go broke because the gov. has dictated their salary.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I wouldn’t let Jeb Bush lead my dog to a fire hydrant.


63 posted on 09/23/2009 3:49:06 PM PDT by boocoowell
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To: MinorityRepublican
Could Mitch Daniels and Jeb Bush lead the GOP back to the White House?

I don't know who Mitch Daniels is. But Jeb Bush - NO!!!!!!!

64 posted on 09/23/2009 3:50:27 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: beckett

The American people have a short term memory.


65 posted on 09/23/2009 3:50:50 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: discomatic

The ONE thing we can agree with The Reverrrrrennnnd Jackson on. LOL


66 posted on 09/23/2009 3:51:05 PM PDT by LaybackLenny (Sarah Palin can see the left's heads explode from her house!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Not with Bush they won’t. It’s over.


67 posted on 09/23/2009 3:57:58 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: MinorityRepublican

No more Bushes, please. It’s going to be difficult enough to ever vote for a Republican again as it is.


68 posted on 09/23/2009 4:00:30 PM PDT by SaveTheChief (Obama lied, America died.)
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To: Truth is a Weapon
would probably make a better POTUS than George.

A potted plant would probably make a better POTUS than George.

69 posted on 09/23/2009 4:00:49 PM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: MinorityRepublican
The American people have a short term memory.

Not short enough for a Bush resurgence by 2012. Far too many Republicans loathe the way Bush mis-managed his time at the helm, and the stench will stick to his brother long enough to scuttle any hope he may have had for high office.

GWB proved himself to be a big spending, big goverment, ruling class elitist with very odd ideas about foregn policy interventionism and fiscal sanity that have little to do with conservative ideas. His family name is toast for a long, long time.

70 posted on 09/23/2009 4:05:46 PM PDT by beckett (Amor Fati)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Spare us the mistake.


71 posted on 09/23/2009 4:07:10 PM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: Clemenza
I have attended several dinners with Mitch Daniels and have had the opportunity to speak at length with him.

Should Mitch decide to run, he'd get my vote in a heartbeat. He's very good in crowds, a strong speaker, and he's gotten a lot of attention for several Op-Ed pieces he has written.

72 posted on 09/23/2009 4:11:47 PM PDT by Military family member (GO Colts!!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

No, to neither (they’re conserservative), but not that conservative, there are better candidates such as Ron Paul or Mike Pence or Jim DeMint!


73 posted on 09/23/2009 4:20:26 PM PDT by JSDude1 (www.wethepeopleindiana.org (Tea Party Member-Proud), www.travishankins.com (R- IN 09 2010!))
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To: MinorityRepublican

No way in hell.

LLS


74 posted on 09/23/2009 4:23:02 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: NonValueAdded

jeb is 100% pro amnesty.

LLS


75 posted on 09/23/2009 4:24:09 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Sure, let’s have Jeb for 4 years, then Michelle, then Jenna, then Chelsea...


76 posted on 09/23/2009 4:27:24 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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Read my lips: No money, no support, no vote.


77 posted on 09/23/2009 4:34:17 PM PDT by catbertz
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Hell no! They keep running weak RINO’s up the flag pole. We aren’t saluting, unless you count a two finger salute.


78 posted on 09/23/2009 4:45:38 PM PDT by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

NOPE.


79 posted on 09/23/2009 4:55:47 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: devane617
"NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Make that 'NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!'

I don't care how good he may be, America WILL NOT elect another Bush, just as they would not elect Newt Gingrich or Dick Cheney. They're names have been forever poisoned by the hatchet work done on them by the entities formerly known as the MSM.

Nominating another Bush would be the stupidest thing the Republicans ever did, and, given their recent history, that's saying a lot!

80 posted on 09/23/2009 5:43:22 PM PDT by DJ Frisat (How's that change workin' out for ya, Obama voters?)
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To: DJ Frisat

AMEN!!! It is instant ‘LOSS’ for any ticket with any Bush.


81 posted on 09/23/2009 6:43:16 PM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Mitch Daniels couldn’t even lead the IN GOP to a majority... but he sure did cause them to LOSE it.


82 posted on 09/23/2009 10:10:14 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Losing the majority in Indiana had nothing to do with Mitch Daniels, and everything to do with Barack Obama.


83 posted on 09/24/2009 3:42:19 AM PDT by Military family member (GO Colts!!)
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To: Military family member
Zero wasn't influencing the 2006 elections when Daniels lost the IN House and the federal majority on his watch. The fact that IN was lost for the Presidency in '08 for the first time in 44 years spoke poorly to Daniels as the party leader for the state. Not even Bob Dole had to worry about carrying the state in '96 (and he did so even as Mayor Goldsmith lost the Governorship he was expected to win). If Daniels had been an effective party leader, he would've been able to help reclaim the IN House in '08 and some of those federal House seats that have no business being in Dem hands. We gained nothing.
84 posted on 09/24/2009 3:52:49 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Again, that criteria pretty much excludes every GOP leader in the country. They all dropped the ball in ‘06, and again in ‘08.


85 posted on 09/24/2009 4:20:50 AM PDT by Military family member (GO Colts!!)
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To: Military family member

Many did drop the ball... but not all. Some tried, some didn’t bother. Fact is, Daniels is a terrible party leader, and someone like that would be a disaster as President for either reclaiming the majority or keeping us from slipping further back. Pawlenty of MN is equally as guilty (he had close to a 2/3rds GOP House majority in his state, and 6 years later, we now are at or below 1/3rd in both bodies). It’s no wonder the media trumpets the candidacies of “R” Governors with the worst track records for helping the party gain seats. Huckster and Slick Willard were even worse than these two. Palin wasn’t in long enough to judge her performance, it largely remained status quo in her state (but the GOP there has two factions, and the RINO wing joined with the Democrats to undermine her).


86 posted on 09/24/2009 4:26:35 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: deport

Daniels has been an excellent governor. Even though our state has been whacked by auto industry unemployment (we have a lot of plants and suppliers here) our state budget is still in the black.

He’s revamped our Bureau of Motor Vehicles, gotten property tax reform through the legislature, beaten back the state employee union, kept tax rates low, and had NO scandals.

He is a fiscal conservative, but pretty silent on social issues. He got reelected last November overwhelmingly even though Indiana went narrowly for Obama. He worked for Reagan, then Eli Lilly Pharmaceuticals after Reagan left office, then as Bush II’s budget director in his first term, before returning here and running for governor.

Indiana’s finances were in a horrible mess before he was elected. He slashed and cut, sold the toll road to a European consortium and is funding road repairs with the interest on the money, did a one-year tax increase which has since gone, told state employees that there will be NO pay raises, and privatized some areas of government. Now we are in the black, even in the middle of the recession, unlike most other states.

He has been tireless in getting companies to locate here and makes several trade mission trips to Asia and Europe every year.

I don’t know that he could be persuaded to run. He is very protective of his daughters and his wife, and I am not sure he wants to put them through the meat-grinder of a campaign against the Chicago thugs.

If he runs, however, I would support him. He really knows budgeting and finance and might be able to cut a lot of spending in Washington. There was a reason Bush nicknamed him “The Blade.”


87 posted on 09/24/2009 5:04:14 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: MinorityRepublican

Jeb’s stooges seem to be continually testing the waters, don’t they?


88 posted on 09/24/2009 5:10:43 AM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: MinorityRepublican

This is the kind of crap that is killing the Republican party. We can’t seem to come up with anything but recycled candidates. Democrats have been winning with relative unknowns (Clinton, Obama, even Carter), while we keep throwing out Bushes, McCains, Doles, Romneys, etc. We need some new blood!

I wouldn’t be a bit surprised to see our candidate slate in 2012 look very similar to the candidate slate of the last two elections.


89 posted on 09/24/2009 5:16:59 AM PDT by Magnatron
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To: Magnatron

W is why I am not longer a Republican, I don’t think another Bush is going to be very appealing to the American people concidering the mess W made.


90 posted on 09/24/2009 5:33:28 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: MinorityRepublican

Stay out da Bushes.


91 posted on 09/24/2009 5:34:41 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I hope Sarah will start a 2nd party soon)
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To: mrsixpack36
Even though Jeb is the strongest Bush yet leadership wise,

That's true if you're an illegal alien, especially a Hispanic one.

92 posted on 09/24/2009 5:41:15 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Miss Marple
Thanks. He sounds like from your description someone that could be a plus for the republicans. We certainly need a few new faces with good credentials on the national scene. I know that facing the national scene is something that some don't want to subject their families and themselves to. That I can understand. So far I think the pickings among national aspirants are very slim.
93 posted on 09/24/2009 6:31:16 AM PDT by deport
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To: Miss Marple

Do you support Lugar, the biggest backer of all UN infringement on our sovereignty?


94 posted on 09/24/2009 7:08:09 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: antisocial

Lugar! (Said in like Jerry Seinfeld said “Newman!”)

Lugar is consumed by jealousy that he never got to be secretary of state, bitterness towards conservatives, and an inflated sense of his intelligence. I also think he is getting senile.

No, I don’t support him. I am hoping he retires, because the Indiana GOP won’t allow a primary challenge against him.


95 posted on 09/24/2009 8:43:12 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: deport

The big problem, deport, is that he he really short, sort of James Madison size. Not sure that would work on the TV debate stage against Obama.

He is witty, with a dry sense of humor, though, and since Obama has zero sense of humor Daniels could probably get him to reveal his whining and petty side real quick.


96 posted on 09/24/2009 8:45:30 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: MinorityRepublican

Answer: No.


97 posted on 09/24/2009 8:50:02 AM PDT by sauropod (People who do things are people that get things done.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

it is too bad Jeb’s father was president. Jeb is actually the “smart one” except for that blind spot of illegal immigration amnesty. (must be his real estate developer background)


98 posted on 09/24/2009 9:01:23 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Miss Marple

The big problem, deport, is that he he really short,


I looked up some google images and that was my summation along with maybe a little ruddiness. I’m not sure that will play good on tv, etc. I immediately thought of Perot with regards to being short. Image is a big seller to the public today.


99 posted on 09/24/2009 10:57:22 AM PDT by deport
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To: Clemenza

Jeb would have been the 2000 nominee if he won in 1994. Thanks to Dubya, Jeb’s Presidential desires are squashed at least until 2016.

Today, Public Policy Polling released a poll on a potential Jeb Vs Obama matchup. Obama crushes Jeb 50-37. Plus, Jeb’s national approval rating is at 22% approve and 45% disapprove. People at still mad at Dubya.


100 posted on 09/24/2009 3:40:30 PM PDT by yongin
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