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Feds probe US Census worker hanging in Kentucky
Associated Press ^ | September 24, 2009 | DEVLIN BARRETT and JEFFREY McMURRAY

Posted on 09/24/2009 4:48:35 AM PDT by mentor2k

MANCHESTER, Ky. – When Bill Sparkman told retired trooper Gilbert Acciardo that he was going door-to-door collecting census data in rural Kentucky, the former cop drawing on years of experience warned: "Be careful."

The 51-year-old Sparkman was found hanged from a tree near a Kentucky cemetery and had the word "fed" scrawled on his chest, a law enforcement official said Wednesday, and the FBI is investigating whether he was a victim of anti-government sentiment.

"Even though he was with the Census Bureau, sometimes people can view someone with any government agency as 'the government.' I just was afraid that he might meet the wrong character along the way up there," said Acciardo, who directs an after-school program at an elementary school where Sparkman was a frequent substitute teacher.

The Census Bureau has suspended door-to-door interviews in rural Clay County, where the body was found, until the investigation is complete, an official said . .

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: billsparkman; census; fed; hanging; kentucky
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"Appalachia scholar Roy Silver, a New York City native now living in Harlan County, Ky., said he doesn't sense an outpouring of anti-government sentiment in the region as has been exhibited in town hall meetings in other parts of the country."

I wondered if they'd try to tie this to the conservative movement and they still don't get it. What's going on in the "town hall" meetings have nothing to do with "anti-government sentiment". It's about voicing opinions about government intrusion into every area of American lives.

You watch, before long, this story will have morphed into how the perpatrators of this crime were typical conservative activists.
1 posted on 09/24/2009 4:48:35 AM PDT by mentor2k
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To: mentor2k

I’m guessing that this guy stumbled into somebody’s meth lab or something.


2 posted on 09/24/2009 4:51:09 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: cripplecreek

Who, knows, but coming from Appalachia myself, I know for a fact that there are some really rough and mean people in Clay County. After this murder, I can’t imagine how the Census Bureau’s going to get any more employees to go there and do the work.


3 posted on 09/24/2009 4:54:43 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: cripplecreek
I’m guessing that this guy stumbled into somebody’s meth lab or something.

My first guess is that it was a suicide, and the guy wanted to make sure his family got the insurance money. Most Life Insurance does not pay suicide claims.

4 posted on 09/24/2009 4:54:58 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (Roark, Architect.)
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To: mentor2k

This is rich!


5 posted on 09/24/2009 4:54:59 AM PDT by glide625
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To: mentor2k

Druggies. Bet on it!


6 posted on 09/24/2009 4:55:52 AM PDT by LRS (Just contracts; just laws; just a constitution...)
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To: mentor2k

The immediate impression is an anti-gov’t act. Only STUPID people will make the leap without evidence. It’s too late for the liberals now to convince the fence sitters. Independents know Obama and his cronies in congress are trying to take America and capitalism down, regardless of what conservatives and American’s alike yell at townhall meetings.


7 posted on 09/24/2009 4:58:44 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Gravity Of The Situation...)
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To: mentor2k

Where I work, they are about to fire several hundred of us, and we have few prospects for jobs. One woman who is quite desperate applied for a job with the Census Bureau, doing just this sort of thing. She was overjoyed when they accepted her—until, that is, she found out she was going to be assigned to some backwoods areas in West Virginia. She withdrew her name from consideration. She said, “I know those people. If I go up to strange houses and knock on the door sooner or later I’m either going to get a gutfull of buckshot or get raped. No thanks.”


8 posted on 09/24/2009 4:59:06 AM PDT by ottbmare (I could agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.)
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To: mentor2k

He either walked into a pot house or he saw something criminal.

This is a case of covering up a discovery of a crime.

Just a gut feeling.


9 posted on 09/24/2009 4:59:49 AM PDT by OpusatFR (Those embryos are little humans in progress. Using them for profit is slavery.)
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To: mentor2k; wardaddy

Don’t go snooping around up on Copperhead Road.


10 posted on 09/24/2009 5:00:11 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: cripplecreek

More probably a marijuana patch, meth isn’t big in east KY, that’s oxycontin territory.

Clay County is one of the most corrupt areas in the whole country so it really could be a lot of things, but I’d put my money on him stumbling onto a marijuana harvest, it is that time of year.


11 posted on 09/24/2009 5:00:21 AM PDT by TruBluKentuckian
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To: mentor2k

Appalachians have always wanted to be left alone. Our media really stinks.


12 posted on 09/24/2009 5:02:07 AM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: Gorzaloon

Sparkman ‘victim of apparent crime’

http://www.thetimestribune.com/local/local_story_260084514.html

He was undergoing treatment for cancer.


13 posted on 09/24/2009 5:02:10 AM PDT by Sparko (Obama & Czars: neutering the American Voter, perverting the Constitution, all on our dime.)
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To: armymarinemom

That’s true, mountain-folk are notorious for wanting to be left alone. They’re not mentioning how the word “Fed” was scrawled onto his chest.


14 posted on 09/24/2009 5:07:59 AM PDT by mentor2k
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To: Travis McGee

My very first thought.


15 posted on 09/24/2009 5:09:10 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: ottbmare

Maybe this would be a good area for ACORN workers to utilized in Census collecting?


16 posted on 09/24/2009 5:09:32 AM PDT by mentor2k
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To: sirchtruth
The murder may have been drug-related. It could also have been a black operation to demonstrate that the conservative opposition to this Administration is violent and dangerous. The racists and conspiracists have largely wised up since the crackdown on the militia movement in the 1990s, so it is difficult for an agent provocateur to provoke violence among such people. Occasionally, there is the "lone wolf" from these ranks, like the octogenarian who killed a security guard at the Holocaust Museum several months ago, but that is the exception. He may have been attempting "suicide by cop", but did not succeed.

Beware of any "keyboard commando", on FR or elsewhere, who advocates violent resistance.

17 posted on 09/24/2009 5:10:51 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: mentor2k

“You watch, before long, this story will have morphed into how the perpatrators of this crime were typical conservative activists.”

Yup, and they’ll blame Rush for stirring them up.


18 posted on 09/24/2009 5:19:03 AM PDT by RoadTest ( Confounded be all they that serve graven images, that boast themselves of idols - Psalm 97:12a)
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To: Gorzaloon
Most Life Insurance does not pay suicide claims.

Sure they do, after the contractual exclusion period, which is two years (by state law) in most states.

19 posted on 09/24/2009 5:19:42 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm not a princess, this ain't a fairy tale.)
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To: mentor2k

Kentucky is second to California for marijuana production, much of it hidden in the Daniel Boone National Forest, where this person was killed.

He probably was thought to be a DEA Agent when he started asking too many questions of some grower’s household.

The growers play a vicious game in the hills using booby traps and even poisonous snakes to protect their “crop”.


20 posted on 09/24/2009 5:20:38 AM PDT by HD1200
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To: sirchtruth

I say discern the times we live in. Another article in the news this morning is that ammunition manufacturers are having trouble keeping up with the civilian demand for ammo.


21 posted on 09/24/2009 5:21:57 AM PDT by RoadTest ( Confounded be all they that serve graven images, that boast themselves of idols - Psalm 97:12a)
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To: mentor2k

I suspect Pelosi. She said this would happen.


22 posted on 09/24/2009 5:23:13 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Gorzaloon

> My first guess is that it was a suicide, and the guy wanted to make sure his family got the insurance money. Most Life Insurance does not pay suicide claims.
Sounds plausible. In 1988, a friend of mine at work told me that IF he were to ever commit suicide, he’d go to his garage, close the garage door, open the hood of his car, spread tools everywhere and then turn on the engine and die. He said that this way, people would just think that he was a careless idiot but his family would get the insurance.
Two weeks later he was found dead in exactly this manner.


23 posted on 09/24/2009 5:23:37 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Obama, you stop lying; we'll stop callin' you a LIAR.)
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To: Sparko

This happened around a week ago and we’re just now hearing about it?


24 posted on 09/24/2009 5:23:58 AM PDT by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: mentor2k
I've been told by law enforcement here in WV that there are some of the deep hollows where they will NOT send only one or two patrol cars, If they have to serve a warrant, they go in with everything they have, get who they need to get, and get out before the sun sets.

Many of these hollows are occupied by large extended families that are strongly anti-government, armed to the teeth, and know the land like the back of their hand.

I know I sure wouldn't want to be some census worker from the city who wanders into one of these places, knocks at door and demands to know how many toilets the residence has...

25 posted on 09/24/2009 5:23:59 AM PDT by apillar
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To: armymarinemom

I think most Americans want to be left alone especially today.


26 posted on 09/24/2009 5:25:19 AM PDT by Rappini ("Pro deo et Patria.)
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To: mentor2k

If we were left-wing nuts, we would have immediately tied this to ACORN being removed from the Census work.

“It’s obvious that ACORN and their violent followers are upset about the Census move, and are sending a message — restore us or else. Much like union thugs beat up scabs, ACORN could well be going after the census workers to scare them off so the Census has no choice but to re-hire ACORN.”


27 posted on 09/24/2009 5:27:00 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: armymarinemom

interesting story..God Bless you and your son, armymarine mom, you must be very proud.


28 posted on 09/24/2009 5:30:49 AM PDT by coloradomomba (BO stinks!)
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To: mentor2k

I take it Sparkman was white, otherwise this would be a breaking news/noose hate crime.


29 posted on 09/24/2009 5:30:58 AM PDT by maggief
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To: mentor2k

And so it begins?


30 posted on 09/24/2009 5:34:14 AM PDT by Dooderbutt
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To: cripplecreek

“I’m guessing that this guy stumbled into somebody’s meth lab or something.”

EXACTLY!

Only in the mind of a leftie whacko would their first thought be “a tea party mobster! oh my!”


31 posted on 09/24/2009 5:39:03 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: mentor2k
I'm sorry to say that when I saw the headline the first thing I thought was

Feds probe US Census worker hanging in Kentucky with pointy sticks

...but not that sorry.

32 posted on 09/24/2009 5:48:57 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (Keep your powder dry, and your iron hidden.)
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To: mentor2k

If it’s not a total set up (Reichstag fire) to discredit the opposition to Obama, then it will be spun into discrediting the opposition to Obama. He may have stumbled into a marijuana harvest but even if he did, it will be spun as done by teabaggers.

And it could be a complete Reichstag fire deal, but if it is, we’ll never know. And if it was just being in the wrong place at the wrong time, it will still be spun against middle-American opponents of the Messiah.


33 posted on 09/24/2009 5:50:47 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Gorzaloon

All life insurance pays suicide after 2 yrs.

Pray for America


34 posted on 09/24/2009 5:52:14 AM PDT by bray (He's a Divider not a Uniter)
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To: cripplecreek

Our men’s group from church went to Wheelwright KY last year and the folks in the house we were working on said the kids had only two things to do. Cock fighting or meth.


35 posted on 09/24/2009 5:57:12 AM PDT by wordsofearnest (Job 19:25 As for me, I know my Redeemer lives.)
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To: cripplecreek

“I’m guessing that this guy stumbled into somebody’s meth lab or something.”

That’s more than probable but whatever it was, he stumbled into a whole lot of evil.


36 posted on 09/24/2009 5:57:28 AM PDT by Havisham
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To: HD1200
The growers play a vicious game in the hills using booby traps and even poisonous snakes to protect their “crop”.
Many years ago I met a Native American who grew up on a reservation in New York state. He and his brother would take turns sleeping in the "garden" with a shotgun. Apparently it wasn't uncommon for someone to die of gun shot wounds during harvest.
37 posted on 09/24/2009 5:57:52 AM PDT by neefer (Because you can't starve us out and you can't make us run.)
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To: Rappini
I think most Americans want to be left alone especially today.

True but in a way most Appalachians were the first true libertarians. They were the very people used to sell giving the poor food stamps yet they didn't use them because of the intrusion. They have always believed that the Feds had no business in business no matter what your business.

38 posted on 09/24/2009 6:02:29 AM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: coloradomomba

Thank you.


39 posted on 09/24/2009 6:02:47 AM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: mentor2k

Well we know it wasn’t a still he stumbled onto because the word revenuer would have been on his chest instead of “Fed”, or perhaps they simply can’t spell? The fact that not one FReeper in any of the articles I’ve seen on this mentions that he may have stumbled onto a still is amazing, it is always MJ he might have stumbled on. I vote for a still which probably still outnumber the pot farms in the area. If they add more taxes to booze look for that number to increase.


40 posted on 09/24/2009 6:07:19 AM PDT by celestron71
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To: armymarinemom

I don’t find this strange at all. In flight training over Alabama we had a good number of no-fly-zones depicted in our maps. Those were areas where the locals were known for shooting at low flying helicopters.


41 posted on 09/24/2009 6:07:55 AM PDT by cll (I am the warrant and the sanction)
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To: apillar

I have some Appalachian in me. I’ve been in some “out of the way” places. I have met some of the sweetest, kindest, people in America. Some were in the poorest of places. Most were dirt poor. But, if’n they liked ya’, or liked who sent ya’(a very key part of the initial meeting), you were “in”. I have relatives who have lived in a part of Appalachia for over 30 years. They are still “outsiders”. And probably deserve to be...

From what I can tell, this poor guy was not “from around hyar”...


42 posted on 09/24/2009 6:08:56 AM PDT by chadwimc (Proud to be an infidel ! Allah fubar !!!)
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To: mentor2k

43 posted on 09/24/2009 6:14:48 AM PDT by ScottinVA (This Revolution will be peaceful if possible; other than peaceful if necessary.)
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To: chadwimc

“Most were dirt poor. But, if’n they liked ya’, or liked who sent ya’(a very key part of the initial meeting), you were “in”.

I’ve found, with very few exceptions, whenever I’ve shown my hosts the proper respect, I’ve been welcomed warmly. Doesn’t matter if it’s some remote village in Romania or a backwater here in the U.S. The general rule is: it’s their home. Go along and get along.


44 posted on 09/24/2009 6:22:31 AM PDT by ScottinVA (This Revolution will be peaceful if possible; other than peaceful if necessary.)
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To: mentor2k

For those Freepers in the north, or on the west coast who know nothing of rural Kentucky, google the works of Shelby Lee Adams to get a feel for the inhabitants. They are, for the most part, good folks, but the America in which they live is not the same as yuppy suburbia.


45 posted on 09/24/2009 6:31:53 AM PDT by Darnright (There can never be a complete confidence in a power which is excessive. - Tacitus)
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To: mentor2k

I suspect the federal hate crime law will be revised.


46 posted on 09/24/2009 6:35:05 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (Idiotcracy has arrived 400 years early.)
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To: cripplecreek

“I’m guessing that this guy stumbled into somebody’s meth lab or something.”

Good God man, don’t you know that the common sense czar disapproves of such thinking.


47 posted on 09/24/2009 6:36:09 AM PDT by billhilly
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To: mentor2k

I was going to write something but knowing who reads these threads I thought it was prudent to censor myself.


48 posted on 09/24/2009 6:38:04 AM PDT by DManA
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"Mary and Joseph began the long journey from Nazareth to Bethlehem to register in the imperial census."

There'll come a time in the not distant future when census takers in this country will no longer go door-to-door to garner information. The fact that it's too dangerous will finally have dawned on the powers-to-be.

Folks will have to go to their local school or polling place to talk to a census-taker and to fill out forms. Addresses will be cross-checked with county and township assessors' records to insure that everyone is counted.

When I was in my late teens, I signed up as a census-taker to make some extra money. I was paid a small sum for every successful call on a household. I was fast, and made a lot of money for a young skull full of mush.

However, looking back, I get a chill when I think where I had to go to do my job. Into the dark and empty halls of apartment buildings, onto the front porches of dilapidated houses inhabited by hostile or weird people........

I was making my rounds back in the olden days in a Mickey/Judy small town setting......and I suppose it was safe at that time for a young lady working alone to be doing what I was doing, but nutcases existed then as they do now.....and I would never do over again what I did then.

At any rate, in this day and age, not only going into Kentucky hill country, but into ghetto and project territory in urban settings is something no one in their right mind would do.....but they WILL find census-takers who need the piddly sum paid to do the job. They will be taking their lives in their hands.

When the dangers of census-taking today become glaring to stubborn bureaucrates, the whole system of imperial counting will ultimately be changed.

A few more tragedies will have to take place before this happens, unfortunately.

Leni

49 posted on 09/24/2009 6:49:10 AM PDT by MinuteGal ( Americans ! FLIP THIS HOUSE ! (( Congress in 2010 ! ))
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

With a sheriff’s escort.


50 posted on 09/24/2009 7:00:39 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (google; operation garden spot and REX84 (FUBO))
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