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Mark Levin's problem with Glenn Beck ( Beck is correct about mccain )
The Week ^ | September 25th

Posted on 09/26/2009 3:11:14 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing

By saying that Republican John McCain would have been a worse president than Barack Obama............

(I have no use for the rest of this website's drivel. I just want the substance of what Beck said)

(Excerpt) Read more at theweek.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: beck; glennbeck; levin; marklevin; presidentmccain; sniff; sniff3; talkradio; teaparty; thegreatone
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To: Tribune7

I feel the same, I like Levin and Beck. As far as McCain is concerned, I remember the sinking feeling I had when he started winning primaries. He had been a media darling, of sorts, and I couldn’t imagine the media making nice over a republican. I feel like the media selected him because they thought he couldn’t win.


301 posted on 09/27/2009 3:28:09 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Yep, it must be.

The days before and after 8/25, Glenn quoted founding fathers, listed questions on his chalkboard, and played sound bites of Van Jones, Mark Lloyd. He also, posted an In or Out for 2010 poster.

Is that copyright material of Mark Levin? So Levin is claiming original material on the words of the founding fathers, honest questions, and soundbites?

Mark is being deceptive and dillusional. He won’t present any evidence against Beck, because he HAS NONE!


302 posted on 09/27/2009 3:36:11 PM PDT by nowandlater
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To: nowandlater

Mark isn’t the only one Beck has borrowed from and he’s not the only one p.o.’ed about it. Just as O’Reilly takes credit for Glenn’s reporting, Beck does his share as well and it’s unfair.

I’ve been listening to Mark for years and have watched Beck since his show started on CNN and there are many examples of Beck taking Mark’s long researched material and repeating it as if it was his own. Compound that by Glenn using Mark’s theme song as his bumper music on more than one occasion and it seems to me that Glenn does it purposely (albeit very effectively).

There is no doubt that between the two Mark is the intellectual heavy-hitter while Glenn is a self-described “rodeo clown”. I like them both but Glenn should give credit where credit is due. It’s only fair.


303 posted on 09/27/2009 3:38:57 PM PDT by HelloooClareece ("We make war that we may live in peace". Aristotle)
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To: nowandlater

Mark has played sound bites of Beck’s rip offs other than the paragraph from his book, in Beck’s own voice, that I’ve heard with my own ears along with many other FReepers that listen to his show.

But you’re right, we, including Mark, an officer of the court, are all liars driven by jealousy. Your keen insight must searve you well.


304 posted on 09/27/2009 3:47:02 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (YOU LIE! Palin/Cheney 2012)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Here are two posts from Levin. So Levin is saying that Glenn is taking his work by mentioning Alinksy, Cass Sunstein, and the transformation of America? I don’t get his beef...where is the substance? Make the case Mark not just rants!

***Van Jones Will Be Gone By Monday***
Thursday, September 03, 2009 5:32:12 PM · 197 of 305
holdonnow to elizabethgrace
Alinksy and Rules for Radicals all in there as well.

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Thursday, September 03, 2009 5:30:10 PM · 194 of 305
holdonnow to elizabethgrace
you are very kind, thank you; sunstein and the transformation effort, etc., are all right there in the book, as you know then. more voices the better.


305 posted on 09/27/2009 4:15:52 PM PDT by nowandlater
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Ah the Hebrew hot dog joke? Didn’t like a Rush make the same joke too? So is Rush ripping of Mark too? Huh?


306 posted on 09/27/2009 4:17:18 PM PDT by nowandlater
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To: Ditter
He had been a media darling, of sorts, and I couldn’t imagine the media making nice over a republican. I feel like the media selected him because they thought he couldn’t win.

In fairness, of all the Pubs the only one I sorta kinda liked was Hunter and he had all the charisma of a high school disciplinarian.

What McCain did for us, though, was give us Sarah and for that I'll be always grateful.

307 posted on 09/27/2009 4:32:43 PM PDT by Tribune7 (I am Joe Wilson!)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Again, you quote it.
Transcribe it. I have no need to do the work for you.

If it’s so easy, then you should have no problem doing it. I have no reason to go in and prove you right. You, however feel a need to quote it and if YOU find it credible, YOU trascribe it.

But be sure to include the show that Beck said what Mark is upset about and exactly what he said. Otherwise, it’s hearsay. Period.

And if you’re going to continue to get smarmy with me, I will simply ignore you. I also have no need to discuss anything with someone with attitude.


308 posted on 09/27/2009 5:19:05 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: netmilsmom

Mark has cited the instances on his show. Sorry I do not document them or have the shows recorded.


309 posted on 09/27/2009 6:49:43 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (mail check payable to: Joe Wilson for Congress POB 2145 West Columbia, SC 29171)
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To: EnquiringMind

Well you’re not thinking of Mark Levin. Look THAT up.


310 posted on 09/27/2009 6:50:22 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (mail check payable to: Joe Wilson for Congress POB 2145 West Columbia, SC 29171)
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To: RAO1125

“Truth hurts, huh? “

Nope. Now you sound like a *flunking* sophomore in college trying to upstage a professor.

If you dont like a particular talk radio personality, I have a simple solution: Change the channel.


311 posted on 09/27/2009 7:41:43 PM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: nowandlater
Man up, Levin,

With THAT voice? Impossible!

312 posted on 09/27/2009 8:19:49 PM PDT by whatisthetruth
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To: Fudd Fan

I have a better idea. Why don’t you ask him?

I most certainly AM thinking of Mark Levin. Mark Levin went on cable shows in the mid 90s, most notably Geraldo on CNBC, defending OJ.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but it is true, and I am sure there are plenty of Freepers who also remember.


313 posted on 09/28/2009 3:23:57 AM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: Tribune7

“And I really don’t even hate McCain. “

Give it time.


314 posted on 09/28/2009 6:49:26 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Agreed to on all counts. Well stated.


315 posted on 09/28/2009 6:52:20 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

“I think Mark needs to cool it.”

I agree. A few months ago he started making snide remarks about “somebody” specific and I didn’t get it. As things progressed, it was pretty clear it was Beck. Then it was obvious it was Beck. Sounded like little-girl sixth-grade stuff. Sheesh. Jealousy for the popularity popped in to my mind, but I don’t know. Every one of the guys has his own niche; they should all respect that.

I can see how younger people could relate better to Beck’s style than Levin’s. That’s a good thing — as long as they’re learning.


316 posted on 09/28/2009 6:57:22 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (POWER TO THE PEOPLE)
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To: nowandlater; Clint N. Suhks

So if Beck mentions Sunstein or Alinsky that is ripping off Mark? Then Rush must be doing it along with Hannity, too, because they all mention them... and would Mark prefer people who didn’t read his books or listen to his radio show be uninformed about how dangerous those two were rather than have another commentator mention a “public” figure like those two are/were? My goodness do a google and see the number of articles on these men... and no one has done more about Sunstein than WND...


317 posted on 09/28/2009 9:00:50 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: EnquiringMind

Criminal law is NOT Mark’s field. Constitutional Law is. And he’s no fan of Geraldo.


318 posted on 09/28/2009 9:01:13 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (mail check payable to: Joe Wilson for Congress POB 2145 West Columbia, SC 29171)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
So if Beck mentions Sunstein or Alinsky that is ripping off Mark?

Of course not. Beck has read from "Liberty and Tyranny" without giving attribution. Huge difference.

Mark has said on his show that after he's mentioned something that others have picked up on, he's quick to say he said it first but the important thing is that it's getting out there. Mark has also given Beck props for dogging the Van Jones issue.

319 posted on 09/28/2009 9:04:38 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (mail check payable to: Joe Wilson for Congress POB 2145 West Columbia, SC 29171)
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To: Fudd Fan
FF, I said this on another thread, back when Beck's radio show was on in Detroit, he read Rush's Father's Article about the Signers of the Deceleration of Indepance, w/out saying who wrote it.

Now that did tick me off!!!

320 posted on 09/28/2009 9:11:53 AM PDT by Springman (Rest In Peace YaYa123)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

If you don’t think Levin can change minds, listen to this interview he had with big lib and former Obama supporter Stephen A Smith:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=834u4NcyHuU&feature=player_embedded

Please don’t compare Savage to Levin. Levin is a solid conservative. He’s been in the movement since he was a kid. He worked for Reagan to defeat Ford in 1976 and Bush in 1980. He worked in the Reagan Justice Department as Chief of Staff to Ed Meese. Levin has a very sharp mind and that is why I listen to him. I don’t think anyone can deconstruct a leftist argument on radio like he can. Not to take anything away from Rush or the others. I just think Mark is right up there.


321 posted on 09/28/2009 10:54:42 AM PDT by David1 (.)
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To: David1
This was a good and respectful interview, but then Stephen Smith is a sport commentator and Mark came at him with more respect because of that... I would rather see them all treat their callers with this amount of respect and maybe more hearts and minds would be changed... Smith was right that we don't have a good messenger in the GOP.. we don't...

BTW offtopic, but a friend called Hannity's show after the DC march and they screener said they only wanted to hear from liberals and hung up on him... I've heard this same thing lately on FR... to me that is a turnoff, if all Hannity wants is a fight on the air and not to impart infomation about what is going on in DC... I also have an issue with him always having the same people (Newt, etc.) as guests... JMHO ... anyway, this was a good interview and I'd like to hear more of this and less grousing about other commentators.

322 posted on 09/28/2009 11:32:03 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn
So if Beck mentions Sunstein or Alinsky that is ripping off Mark?

No, N&L completely made that up just like he did everything else he posted to me so I quit wasting my time. Mark never said he originated anything about Alinsky or Sunstein if you follow those links to his FR posts or listen to him on his radio show, they are just hysterical manifestations from N&L and others on this thread. No, I only claim what I wrote in my original post and agree with HelloooClareese's post.

I did some research and found the 70 second audio of Mark and the use of his paragraph, which apparently is too difficult for some to hear, and thought you'd be interested in listening. Either you believe Mark can recognize his original work or else he's a liar, being an officer of the court that would be a big no no.

323 posted on 09/28/2009 12:38:14 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (YOU LIE! Palin/Cheney 2012)
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To: Fudd Fan

So your argument for why he wasn’t on Geraldo defending OJ in the 90s is that he’s no fan of Geraldo, and criminal law is not his field? What, no proof?

I distinctly remember him, and am 100% certain - not just 99.9.


324 posted on 09/28/2009 4:09:49 PM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: EnquiringMind

I am 100% certain as well. So I guess that’s all there is.
Have a happy day.


325 posted on 09/28/2009 4:42:07 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (mail check payable to: Joe Wilson for Congress POB 2145 West Columbia, SC 29171)
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