Posted on 09/27/2009 2:04:48 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
Ho-Hum, Another Feathered Dinosaur
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Last January when the most recent flap about feathered dinosaurs made the rounds (01/21/2009), we listed 18 questions that should be asked before believing the claims made about bird and feather evolution. It would be a good time to review those again (see also footnote 3). The rush to judgment and eagerness to prove dinobird evolution should raise red flags...
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Wow, how condescending of you.
And just how are they wrong?
What criteria do you use to set yourself up as some sort of absolute standard of truth?
IOW, who put you in charge and why?
Good post, you are right that the evolutionist’s own disagreements are good evidence that their theory is not as unquestionable as they like to portray to the public.
It’s funny that you mention Origin of the Species. It wasn’t until I actually read the book that I really started questioning the theory. Until that time, I had just assumed the evidence must be there, since all my science teachers and professors taught it like it was set in stone. When I read the book (for Humanities class, ironically), I was almost immediately struck by how much was pure speculation and outright fantasy.
The biggest flaw in his reasoning, in my mind, is how he based the entire theory on the assumption that there is no concrete demarcation between species, but that they are all constantly changing forms. Not only does this fly in the face of all observations, but it allowed him (and his followers) to offer up evidence of what are simply new breeds of animals as new species “created” by evolution.
Though the definition and classification of species was undoubtedly quite flawed in Darwin’s day, he “threw the baby out with the bath water” and effectively made the definition of species completely malleable and meaningless in order to avoid having to deal with the very real problems presented by the divisions of animals (and plants) we see in the real world. Had he found a series of fossil representing domesticated dogs, and they had been unknown to him, he would have undoubtedly assigned most every breed to a separate species based on the trivial differences that have been bred into them.
“Now, thank you for agreeing that you have finally agreed that the evolutionary theory is a valid theory.”
Oh, but I don’t agree that it’s a valid theory. I agree that it is a theory, but valid? Notsomuch.
It’s as flawed an idea as was Darwin flawed as a man... It was the musing of a man who wished to not believe in God and moral absolutes. It was an excuse to disbelieve more than it was a thing to believe. Much as it is to many others. Like you?
They disagree with you!
Childish strawman; nobody has ever said that he did.
"and no one believes the Earth is 6,000 , 10,000, or whatever-have-you years old"
Stated either in complete ignorance (for which there is no excuse) or childish antagonism. - Either way no intelligent person would waste any measurable amount of time on one as devoid of basic knowledge as yourself.
If you wish to engage in discussion here, get educated; if not continue as you are.
End of engagement.
Link?
Think.
(just don’t hurt yourself)
I think you don't have a link.
1. If you’re looking for a particular link of course there’s not one.
2. If you study the man and his psyche it’s not hard to see.
3. I used to engage you guys but you’re generally more caustic and annoying than I care to entertain.
4. If you were truly open minded and interested in truth I’d be more interested in dialogue... I’m certainly capable.
5. Go study then come back. Maybe then you’ll be able to provide me with the links to support your deity.
In short, I grow tired of providing arguments and getting nothing but blank stares from the other side of the monitor. Thanks, but no.
As I said before. You don't have one.
Oh. I have to be open minded to your ideas but you are closed to mine! Your words below.
Based on that I completely agree that debate is useless.
Say what you like... but you don’t have an argument for evolution. And you’re apparently unwilling to look up anything for yourself.
If you’re so smug and arrogant you want to consider the lack of a single link to summarize the motives of Darwin some strange sort of victory then congratulations. Now you can go hug yourself or some such thing. It’s indicative of the kind of wierdness that defines evolutionists.
Now treat yourself to a glass of wine and a Start Trek movie marathon to celebrate. If you ever want to have an honest conversation regarding the subject please let me know.
Why would I waste my time with someone that has already declared that 'debate is useless'.
“I have to be open minded to your ideas but you are closed to mine!”
Nope. Open minded to logic and facts. I am open minded to both and logic and true science dismiss Evolution theory. I didn’t come into this world believing in God or Creation nor disbelieving Evolution. Seems to me I have fewer preconceived notions than yourself, but you’se guys are so good at pigeon-holing folks based on your own preconceived beliefs you wouldn’t know the truth if it bit you on the nether regions.
Looks like a definition of a closed mind.
Huh? You are the one that declared that debate was useless and had already made up his mind on the issue and wouldn't be influenced by anything that didn't support your position.
“Why would I waste my time with someone that has already declared that ‘debate is useless’.”
Context, my friend. Debate is useless not when there are pre-determined opinions, but when the dialogue is so decidedly antagonistic that no progress is possible as with most of your debates. I refer to my previous posts. The offer is open should you ever learn to offer reasoned discourse.
“and had already made up his mind on the issue and wouldn’t be influenced by anything that didn’t support your position.”
That’s the issue. I never said anything of the sort. That’s the way you play every post... by reading things in to everything that is said. Now; tell me how your statement above differs from your OWN opinion, pray tell?
I can go where the facts lead me. You cannot go outside the limits set by your church leader.
Your words. You are NOT open to anything that does not support your position because you have already declared that anything that does not support your position is both illogical and false science! Your words:
I am open minded to both and logic and true science dismiss Evolution theory.
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