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I Come Not To Praise Glenn Beck, But To Bury Him (Why he hurts the right more than he helps)
Pajamas Media ^ | 9/28/2009 | David Riehl

Posted on 09/29/2009 9:01:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

When originally endeavoring to write an approximately 800-word opinion piece on Glenn Beck, I hadn’t taken into account what a truly difficult task it would be. I’ve no desire to alienate some of my many friends on the right currently embracing Beck. But I do have this terrible habit of usually speaking my mind. Glenn Beck deserves credit for what he is doing to hurt Obama — there is no question about that. But in thinking about the man overall as a media figure today, one allegedly aligned with the right, I also have serious concerns. I tried to do my best to address the topic fairly, and I regret that so complex a topic took me almost 1,800 words.

Given the down feeling across the right after last year’s elections, it’s almost exciting to watch Glenn Beck inject a new vitality into the nation’s political discourse. Nearly every one of Beck’s shows packs the respect, depth, sincerity, and intelligence of a good joke at a funeral parlor into one uproarious hour after another. I don’t know how anyone can keep from snickering … at least a little bit. So, what’s the harm in a good joke?

The harm as I see it is that so many seem to be taking the joke seriously. But can you blame them? No, probably not. The media culture of today has done everything in its power to prevent the right from seeing a serious, effective leadership emerge on the national stage. One need only look back to the recent — in fact, ongoing — mistreatment of Sarah Palin to demonstrate that. A deeply informed and experienced radio host, Mark Levin, has broken out in the radio world with ratings that make Glenn Beck’s real numbers look like the third tier radio host he actually is. Levin also wrote a significant New York Times bestseller, moving well over a million copies by now. But there was no Time cover, no Newsweek splash, no Katie Couric interview for that. Have you ever paused long enough to ask yourself why?

Full disclosure — yes, Mark Levin has become something of a dear and trusted friend. But please don’t mistake this as carping or defense on his behalf. Mark is the last person I know who needs or wants to be defended by someone else. My opinions in this matter have nothing to do with Levin and everything to do with the future of the right and the desperate need we have of winning a large number of state and district elections in 2010. And I am not suggesting that Glenn Beck should somehow shut up, go away, or stop pointing a finger at this out-of-control leftist White House whenever he can. Let’s be clear about that. What I am suggesting is that at least some relatively small but vocal amount of people are misunderstanding why Beck is getting the media exposure that he is.

In short, the elitist media gets the joke. They are not putting him up there because they find him an effective, articulate spokesman for the right. They find him an oddity, something they can pin prick and laugh at. And consciously or not, they also know he has the potential to do tremendous damage to the right while having accomplished very little if anything much at all to help it himself. And that’s a fact. He was given a non-prominent microphone and television show in a mostly uncompetitive time slot, replacing a very decent but relatively uncompelling and beyond-his-prime John Gibson. And piggybacking on the efforts of others, Beck has displayed tremendous marketing ability, or his handlers have, in making the absolute best use of it while also doing damage to a politically dangerous White House. He deserves praise and full credit for that.

However, we should not confuse what it is and what it is not, nor lose sight of the extremely dangerous time bombs he has planted for the right as he’s gone so thoughtlessly and carelessly on his way in doing it. First some facts as to what Beck has and has not actually done in terms of damaging the Obama administration. From the 9/12 tea party march, to Van Jones, the NEA scandal, and ACORN, none of these were the genuine work of Glenn Beck. He did no heavy lifting on any of those stories other than ginning up noise around them on his show, often milking them for days while, to genuine observers, all the facts were out there for anyone of a mind to find them out. That isn’t an insult. He has a television presence and it’s good that he’s currently using it to capitalize on stories that help the right and undermine Obama. I’m not begrudging him that.

But his attempt to co-opt the tea party movement with that silly 9/12 Project nonsense that never actually caught on was the most ham-fisted and perhaps only insulting one of them all. Nine principles and 12 values? Can anyone even name them today? They were supposed to be what it was all about once. Oh well, at least one of his marketing schemes hasn’t tracked, so we do know he’s human after all. The D.C. tea party protest was always planned to come off. All Beck did was come up with a scheme to weave into it, trying to make it his, and it failed. I know because I was there. Aside from whatever more rabid fans he may have encircled himself with for his broadcast that day, nothing about 9/12 was about Glenn Beck. The movement preceded him, just as it preceded Obama, having started under Bush. And frankly, getting off one’s duff and getting involved in local or state party politics or actively joining up with the tea party movement is the only thing that’s going to help take back America and set the Republican Party right for the center-right. In that sense, Beck is a distraction, if nothing else. But he is also something far worse. He’s a genuine danger to us and we need to sort that out.

Without taking credit away from Beck for talking it up as he did, along with many, many others, the notion that 9/12 was much about Beck is a joke. The many pushing it were simply more generous in crediting the people actually involved — the little people, patriotic Americans across the country like you and me who are driving it. They stand in stark contrast to Beck, who seems to ultimately and always be about himself. As for the real meat behind the various other scandals mentioned, it was either Breitbart or blogger Gateway Pundit who did the real work on those. Beck’s great contribution was again, like others, to broadcast them. That’s a good thing. He deserves credit for that, though also unfortunately he seems so willing to make them his own. I guess that’s what so-called stars, or wannabe famous people, do.

But what else has he done? This represents my only serious concerns involving Beck. Otherwise, I doubt I’d be much interested in him at all. He’s called Barack Obama a racist, for one. I’m appalled by my friends on the right who seem so willing to pass that remark off as insignificant — almost pretending it was never said. It was outrageous, undeserved, and represents nothing but the very kind of racist cudgel the left has been falsely charging the right with being for years. Maybe Beck is one, otherwise he could never conceive of making such a remark — and so publicly at that.

I thought Barack Obama wasn’t even “really” black to many of his critics? I thought the good friend he was “pal-ing around with,” domestic terrorist Bill Ayers, was white? In fact, Obama has probably broken bread with more white people than black over the years. And forget the nuance, the rationalization around what it is he really meant or was trying to say. That doesn’t and won’t matter when the left and the media pick it back up and turn it on you, not just Glenn Beck, to call you intolerant and racist, just as they have wrongly been doing for years.

So, Beck-heads, be advised. If nothing else, don’t come crying to me about how a biased media mistreats you and calls you names you don’t deserve to be called when they tire of the right’s alleged fair-haired boy and decide to use his recklessness and lack of thought against you. And they will do it not just to you, but the entire conservative movement because he was prominently embraced and not denounced. Well, not me. And I want to be very clear and on record here. The comment was uncalled for.

And what about those internment camps? That’s a good one. When the story first broke I looked into it. It took all of an hour to read the text of the actual bill and see there was nothing to it at all. Yet somehow it took Beck, all the while stirring up his would-be masses, a month to figure it out. Really? With his supposedly dogged researchers and researching skills? Please, give me a break. So there again Beck has planted the very seed that, just as Obama’s past with ACORN is currently doing to him, is going to come back and hurt the right to a significant degree. We’ll be denounced en masse as a bunch of wild-eyed conspiracy freaks and racists. And thanks to any broad embrace of Glenn Beck and the lowest common denominator of showmanship that he represents, this time you’ll deserve it.

I understand the center-right’s frustration. For some time the Republican Party has failed us, though it does now seem to be getting on track based upon my observations here in Washington, D.C. I know how frustrating it was to watch the unfair destruction of Sarah Palin. In that sense, dare I say, I feel your pain. And I share the desperation of wanting to find someone that the media allows to stand up, to not be maligned while honestly and fairly speaking to our issues and representing our various just causes such as they are. But I refuse to accept just anyone in that role because it’s too important to me.

And I especially refuse to accept someone so reckless, uninformed, unthinking, and possibly even unserious with a very real potential to do the right more harm than good in the end.

-- Dan Riehl is a former marketing professional in the technology industry turned blogger/new media consultant. He's based in Virginia, just off the D.C. Beltway.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: barfalert; conservatism; glennbeck; levin; marklevin; talkradio
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To: SeekAndFind

This is like the nobodies who challenge Rush in order to further their own dead end careers.

Notice when CNN was able to “contain” beck on their left wing education camp, Beck was ok.

Now that Beck is exposing the left wing AND BELTWAY INSIDER STUPIDITY, the effete elites do not like it.


51 posted on 09/29/2009 9:21:47 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SeekAndFind
In short, the elitist media gets the joke. They are not putting him up there because they find him an effective, articulate spokesman for the right. They find him an oddity, something they can pin prick and laugh at

I don't watch Beck. But even I know this isn't true.

The media "put him up" when they had to...when they realized that what Beck was saying was actually being acted upon in DC.

When Beck got Van Jones fired, Beck became the story. Not because the media were laughing at him...but because they realized he was becoming effective.

52 posted on 09/29/2009 9:22:19 AM PDT by what's up
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To: SeekAndFind

If that’s the case, the left should just leave Beck alone. I don’t believe that is happening.


53 posted on 09/29/2009 9:22:22 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: SeekAndFind

y a w n . . .


54 posted on 09/29/2009 9:22:41 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: SeekAndFind

There’s a certain childishness, a kind of wacky immaturity, that Beck exhibits, and it bugs serious people. He’s not on a par with Limbaugh or O’Reilly. The manic atmosphere he operates in suggests instability, and I won’t be at all surprised if he crashes and burns.


55 posted on 09/29/2009 9:23:01 AM PDT by beckett (Amor Fati)
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To: SeekAndFind
We’ll be denounced en masse as a bunch of wild-eyed conspiracy freaks and racists.

Yeah, Beck has really done as all in now. Nobody ever called Conservatives racists before he came along. And now, because of Beck, they'll all probably start denouncing us as some "Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy" or something.

56 posted on 09/29/2009 9:23:11 AM PDT by kevao (I am Joe Wilson!)
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To: Dick Bachert

It also takes courage and bravery. Beck got that also. Levin needs a hobby.


57 posted on 09/29/2009 9:23:47 AM PDT by bmwcyle (We need more Joe Wilson's. OBAMA is ACORN ACORN is OBAMA)
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To: SeekAndFind

“I’ve no desire to alienate some of my many friends on the right ... “

I’m guessing his many friends would be: Levin, the US Chamber of Commerce, “conservatives” like Graham and McCain, everyone at the Wall Street Journal & the Weekly Standard, and a dirty, egg-sucking dog that sleeps in a hole right off old Route 66 just outside Amarillo, Texas.


58 posted on 09/29/2009 9:24:24 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: SeekAndFind
But his attempt to co-opt the tea party movement with that silly 9/12 Project nonsense that never actually caught on was the most ham-fisted and perhaps only insulting one of them all.

The best line in the article. And SOOOOO true!!!

59 posted on 09/29/2009 9:24:36 AM PDT by JRochelle (CO2 is plant food.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not a bad article. Unlike Kathleen Parker and Peggy Noonan, the writer at least attempts to convince readers. A much more serious writer than David Frum.

Glenn Beck is an American hero and the left and the MSM will spin things against us no matter how we behave. We may as well help bring down some real goons like Van Jones and this nutbag Cass Sunstein.

I think it’s a little strange that the writer spent THREE paragraphs talking about how Glenn Beck rightly pointed out that Obama was a racist who hated white culture and, by default, white people. Obama referred to his grandmother as a typical white person and used her sickness at the end of the campaign for a publicity stunt.


60 posted on 09/29/2009 9:24:38 AM PDT by BertWheeler (Dance and the World Dances With You!)
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To: MNlurker

Screw this jerk!!!


61 posted on 09/29/2009 9:24:46 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: SeekAndFind
Full disclosure — yes, Mark Levin has become something of a dear and trusted friend. But please don’t mistake this as carping or defense on his behalf.

LOL....Im sure.

62 posted on 09/29/2009 9:25:18 AM PDT by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Full disclosure — yes, Mark Levin has become something of a dear and trusted friend.

LOL, as if we couldn't tell.

63 posted on 09/29/2009 9:25:26 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: Dick Bachert

yeah but don’t they have what amounts to an editor that can say ‘go away don’t bother me lib’?


64 posted on 09/29/2009 9:25:38 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: SeekAndFind
From the 9/12 tea party march, to Van Jones, the NEA scandal, and ACORN, none of these were the genuine work of Glenn Beck. He did no heavy lifting on any of those stories other than ginning up noise around them on his show, often milking them for days while, to genuine observers, all the facts were out there for anyone of a mind to find them out.

The author is missing the entire point. Yes "all the facts were out there for anyone of a mind to find them out". THAT WAS THE PROBLEM! You had to be willing to expend energy looking for the data!

What Beck did was to package the data into an easily digestible form, and make sure that PEOPLE ACTUALLY SAW IT.

65 posted on 09/29/2009 9:26:03 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Even if you were to assume the worst about Glenn Beck was true, how does that hurt the republican party?
That’s the equivalent of claiming no one votes for democrats anymore because of Michael Moore.
Some serious contortions are required to attempt (much less accept) that premise.


66 posted on 09/29/2009 9:26:13 AM PDT by astyanax (Liberalism: Logic's retarded cousin.)
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To: MozarkDawg

LOL

I don’t listen to either Beck/Levin they’re not my cup of tea. I do give kudos to Beck for uncovering things though...envy is unattractive no matter which side of the aisle you’re on. In this case Levin comes off as the Michelle Obama to Beck’s Carla Bruni.


67 posted on 09/29/2009 9:27:10 AM PDT by MNlurker
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Yep.

Maybe the infiltration goes all the way to the top?


68 posted on 09/29/2009 9:27:39 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (THE 2010 ELECTIONS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT IN OUR LIFETIMES! BE THERE!!!)
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To: ConservativeMind
He may have a hatred for whites, but as for evidence in his daily life, he has surrounded himself with people of all races. To my chagrin, they are all extreme leftists.

This just means that he wanted people who would be the most use to him, not that he loved white folks.

The Mafia had employed lots of blacks in the Harlem drug trade, while still having massive contempt for blacks. Blacks were just useful.

69 posted on 09/29/2009 9:28:57 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: stockpirate
Many may think Beck and Levin are off-the-hook nuts, but I appreciate all that they are doing for America-and that means more than what he does for the party.
They don't give a damn what anyone else thinks,they speak their mind and work the nerves of the left on a regular basis.
Works for me.
70 posted on 09/29/2009 9:29:14 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (Palin-Bachmann Overdrive 2012 !! :)-Thanks anyway,LL)
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To: SeekAndFind
It didn't take but to read the fist few sentences to find the fault with this article. Quote, “Glenn Beck deserves credit for what he is doing to hurt Obama”. Wrong wrong wrong. Glenn is not doing what he does to “hurt” Obama. He is merely seeking out and telling the TRUTH about all the wrongs that are going on in today's politics. Lately I've seen him elbow the Republicans in the guts as much as Democrats. That alone tells me he is looking after us, the masses more than just “going after Obama”.
71 posted on 09/29/2009 9:30:05 AM PDT by fish hawk (Lord, help us to attain knowledge and the wisdom to apply it toward your ultimate will.)
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To: dsc
civility is nothing but a self-imposed handicap.

Amen

72 posted on 09/29/2009 9:30:10 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Obama's Blackberry, who's on the other end?)
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To: SeekAndFind

I agree with some of the points made in the article. Beck is certainly a self promoter, but again what big personality is not? I’m pretty sure that most of the Beck fans also are fans of Levin so I don’t get the point. What the media ignores Levin and promotes Beck because they think Beck is nuts? Beck has written some thoughtful books also.

The reason that they are looking at Beck is because his TV ratings have exploded this year since he’s gone to Fox. You can’t ignore that. Levin does not have a national TV show.

As for the racism comment, that came as I recall because of Obama’s knee jerk reaction to the Gates imbrogglio. The situation was a white cop and a black man and without any information (he admitted that) he assumed that the white cop was wrong and said the white cop acted stupidly. That is the defintion of racism, making assumptions about particular people based soley on the color of their skin. I.E. the cop was white so he must have acted stupidly. I believe that Rush made similar comments saying that Obama was racist also.


73 posted on 09/29/2009 9:30:22 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: SeekAndFind

Was Pajamas Media ever a conservative site?

It seems now they post nothing but anti-Beck crapola.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2350830/posts


74 posted on 09/29/2009 9:30:22 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I am Legend)
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To: Bahbah
Why don’t they just leave him alone and let him do his thing?

Because the left are scared crap. King Obama had to somehow cut into Beck's show three times last week. I witnessed two of the cuts. They fear him.

75 posted on 09/29/2009 9:30:32 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: mrsmel

Well said!


76 posted on 09/29/2009 9:30:38 AM PDT by Lilpug15 (The Forgotten Man: He works, he votes and he generally prays - but He Always Pays": Sumner)
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To: SeekAndFind

Glenn Beck is a bundle of energy and a work in progress. Sometimes, Beck misfires or aims in the wrong direction, but over time, he has improved and will continue to do so. A year from now, he will be better yet, with a larger audience and his early mistakes forgotten.


77 posted on 09/29/2009 9:31:18 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: kevao
We’ll be denounced en masse as a bunch of wild-eyed conspiracy freaks and racists.

The tea parties made that happen,not anything Glenn Beck has said or done.Who gives a crap what they think of us anyway? All this nicey-nicey stuff has brought us the milquetoast GOP we have to endure in Congress.
78 posted on 09/29/2009 9:32:34 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (Palin-Bachmann Overdrive 2012 !! :)-Thanks anyway,LL)
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To: MrB
we’re supposed to continue doing what we’ve been doing, letting socialism and tyranny creep up and take over, just so we don’t “appear kooky”?

that is what more than a few on this forum believe. That, and to show that we are not, "like them". Everything we do to fight back, there are those that critize it.

79 posted on 09/29/2009 9:32:38 AM PDT by sport
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To: SeekAndFind
Last night's, Friday show with the Mom's had so much potential, until the subject turned to required vaccinations and Ron Paul. I happen to believe that required vaccinations for TB, Polio and any other epidemics are some of the many things that separate us from becoming a 3rd world country. As far as Ron Paul goes, I've seen Lyndon LaRouche campaign ads before. Now I'm going to go to Mark Levin's website and listen to The Great One’s broadcast from last night.
80 posted on 09/29/2009 9:32:41 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: SeekAndFind
I tried to do my best to address the topic fairly, and I regret that so complex a topic took me almost 1,800 words.

It might help if this jerk ever got to the point. I read the whole thing, and I'm afraid I don't understand a thing he said, except that he apparently doesn't like jokes.

81 posted on 09/29/2009 9:33:35 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SeekAndFind
... to Van Jones, the NEA scandal, and ACORN, none of these were the genuine work of Glenn Beck. He did no heavy lifting on any of those stories other than ginning up noise around them on his show ...

And he never CLAIMED to have done the *genuine work*, as a matter of fact, any time someone attempted to credit or thank him, Glenn immediately attributed his sources. He had Andrew Breitbart on both the radio and TV show to explain the damning Van Jones video, he had Andrew on with Judge Napalitano after showing us the first ACORN video to tell us how he had called Judge Tony to invite him for dinner with Andrew only to surprise him by asking him to view the footage with those two and render his judicial opinion. He has stated over and over that it was Breitbart and Big Hollywood who broke the NEA corruption, he's had the guy who recorded the phone conversation on his TV show twice, at least.

Glenn Beck takes no credit for these things, even when others involved, the 9/12'ers most especially, try to give it to him. There is a virulent anti-Beck agenda moving, unfortunately, fact stands in their way.

...all the facts were out there for anyone of a mind to find them out.

Yes, the ACORN footage, the damning Van Jones video, the audio recording of the White House complicit in the solicitation of artists to create propaganda, this was all over the place, why, one could hardly enjoy a football game, the networks and cable news channels were running it 24/7, every American was fully informed ... what in the world was Glenn doing wasting his airtime on this *old news*?? [/s]

82 posted on 09/29/2009 9:34:48 AM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: beckett
Yeah, I had just started watching him when he began with the “excrement” lines (I don't remember the exact words). That was enough for me. No matter how intelligent he might be (and I don't know because that was the first and last time I watched him), I can't listen to that and don't consider it necessary. I know from reading here at FR that he does an important job in getting stories such as the ACORN one before the broader viewing public, and bless him for that. But I can't listen to his terminology.
83 posted on 09/29/2009 9:34:52 AM PDT by mrsmel (Put the Gitmo terrorists near Capitol Hill.)
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To: Lucas McCain

the only people who can’t see Obama is a racist are the effete elites of the beltway who think it would be ok to be a modern national democrat or that socialism is ok.


84 posted on 09/29/2009 9:35:00 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: bmwcyle

I agree.

And sometimes a big ego is needed to stand up and point out the elephant in the room we were all told was not there.


85 posted on 09/29/2009 9:36:31 AM PDT by Voter62vb
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To: MNlurker

LOL, good analogy.


86 posted on 09/29/2009 9:37:18 AM PDT by mrsmel (Put the Gitmo terrorists near Capitol Hill.)
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To: SeekAndFind; rockabyebaby; holdonnow

Reihl and Levin are just doing Hannity’s fighting for him....

Hannity is scared to death of Beck, and FOX, fans, etc won’t stand for him to attack Beck- so he sends these two out to do it for him...

it is pathetic. I have lost ALL respect for Levin.

This country is in a fierce battle for liberty, and these two goons have nothing better to do than attack the one man fearless enough to take on the issues no one else ever has.

I am sick of the infighting among talk show hosts, Tea Party movements, Grassroots movements. This country is bigger than your damn egos- get on board to stop the corruption and destruction of liberty- or get the HELL OUT OF THE WAY!


87 posted on 09/29/2009 9:37:22 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH....Archimedes)
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To: Cicero

LOL, The writer spent his time helping to market Beck, great job.


88 posted on 09/29/2009 9:37:29 AM PDT by SirFishalot
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To: UriĀ’el-2012
Where did you see anything remotely similar to that sentiment in this article?

The author specifies that this is not about Mark Levin, and there is no quote from Levin here.

The rift between the two is, IMO, a leftist attempt to divide us.

Mark and Glenn are both on OUR side. They both have flaws and they're both fighting for America.

DON'T play into this leftist game. If enough people play Donner Party again, we're going to LOSE our country.

89 posted on 09/29/2009 9:38:18 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Seems the author is condemning Beck for failing as a leader (which he isn’t) and failing to want to lead (he doesn’t).

The guy doesn’t get it:
- Beck is just putting the pieces together in an understandable form
- Conservatives are an aggragete of freedom-minded individuals; we have and want no leader.


90 posted on 09/29/2009 9:38:39 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Mr. Obama, I will not join your plantation.)
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To: stockpirate; SeekAndFind

Leaving the debates about speaking style and theatrics aside, it seems Beck got
a little too close to the truth and some unpleasant secrets. So the order has gone
out to silence him.

"Most of us believe socialism is what the socialists want us to believe it is
- a share-the-wealth program. That is the theory. But is that how it works?...
If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth program, but is in
reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox
of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead it
becomes the logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs.
Communism, or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the
downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite."
- Gary Allen, None Dare Call It Conspiracy


91 posted on 09/29/2009 9:38:45 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: SeekAndFind

In spirit I agree with the author. We should never raise any man too high, be it Beck, Limbaugh, Reagan, you name it. I am always watching regarding all of them. I know the “deceiver” is not called the “deceiver” for nothing.

And he IS right about Beck’s involvement being more to increase the size of his mouthpiece and, it naturally follows, the income produced by the show. That is only human though.

One of my biggest concerns about Beck is that he is Mormon. It means he comes from a completely different spiritual perspective than I do. It is as if he is Hindu, Buddhist or atheist. That always causes me to look doubly closely.

A question: If Beck was doing EXACTLY what he is doing now, in every way, but there was one single difference - hi is Muslim - would it impact how people interpret what he does?

We must always be cautions in trusting other human beings, be they popes, presidents or bus drivers. The only man that every lived that can be trusted explicitly and implicitly was hung on a cross and raised three days later.


92 posted on 09/29/2009 9:39:29 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: fish hawk
I hope he reins in any tendency to appear “balanced”, what we DON'T need on the Right is to be saddled with another Bill O’Reilly. Why can't spokesmen on the Right just be unapologetically for the Right, the Left certainly doesn't play devil's advocate for us.
93 posted on 09/29/2009 9:40:02 AM PDT by mrsmel (Put the Gitmo terrorists near Capitol Hill.)
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To: MNlurker
In this case Levin comes off as the Michelle Obama to Beck’s Carla Bruni.

Does Levin have feet as big as Michelle's?? ;)

94 posted on 09/29/2009 9:40:02 AM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: SeekAndFind
Just another idiot trying to get publicity for himself off of Beck's coattails. What makes these morons think that anyone cares anything about what they think?

The great thing about Beck is that he is an equal opportunity offender. He hurts the left, the right, the GOP, the Rats, etc., and he could care less.

95 posted on 09/29/2009 9:42:17 AM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: Voter62vb

Beck is standing up an asking, “Is Communism acceptable in America?” I don’t know if some people even on our side want to answer that question.


96 posted on 09/29/2009 9:42:25 AM PDT by bmwcyle (We need more Joe Wilson's. OBAMA is ACORN ACORN is OBAMA)
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To: ohioWfan
Where did you see anything remotely similar to that sentiment in this article?

The author specifies that this is not about Mark Levin, and there is no quote from Levin here.

The rift between the two is, IMO, a leftist attempt to divide us.

Mark and Glenn are both on OUR side. They both have flaws and they're both fighting for America.

DON'T play into this leftist game. If enough people play Donner Party again, we're going to LOSE our country.

Clearly you do not listen to Mark.

He mocks the TV guy at 5PM: Beck


97 posted on 09/29/2009 9:43:25 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: SeekAndFind

No, this guy is wrong. I like both Levin and Beck. Bottom line is that Beck is doing serious damage, and they are attacking to try to stop or slow the damage. Levin has a very powerful message and powerful book, but they are ignoring it hoping it is contained to existing conservatives and few others. They ignored Beck when he was only on the radio and HLN, but once he moved to Fox, got huge ratings and started very effectively to pick apart the Obama Myth, they started attacking. First, they just casually started throwing his name in the same sentence as Rush and Hannity. Then after his started his indepth documentation of the czars and ACORN a few weeks ago, they pulled out the heavy guns they typically reserve for Limbaugh. Limbaugh has been highly effective for 20+ years. We saw the rise of the House GOP in the 90s and a GOP majority in this decade, in no small part due to Limbaugh’s influence and critical eye on the media.

Today, Beck is literally picking apart this administration, and doing it to big cable ratings. He can’t be ignored at this stage.


98 posted on 09/29/2009 9:44:09 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: SeekAndFind
It’s getting silly. Forbidden to call real racists racists just because that’s how real racists call devent people?!
Do we now have a pc-level of being no-pc?
99 posted on 09/29/2009 9:46:32 AM PDT by alecqss
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To: SeekAndFind

Yawn.

Yet another hack who is trying to get attention by nipping at the heels of one of the big dogs.

It’s pathetic really.


100 posted on 09/29/2009 9:46:35 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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