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450 Mayors Petition Obama To Adopt Broad Gun Reform
The Washington Post ^ | October 3, 2009 | David S. Fallis

Posted on 10/02/2009 7:54:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A new report from a national coalition of mayors urges President Obama to adopt dozens of reforms to help curb gun violence, including steps to crack down on problems at gun shows and the creation of a federal interstate firearms trafficking unit.

The "Blueprint for Federal Action on Illegal Guns," a copy of which was obtained by The Washington Post, presents 40 recommendations that "would dramatically improve law enforcement's ability to keep guns out of the hands of criminals -- and, in doing so, save innocent lives."

The strategies outlined by the Mayors Against Illegal Guns, a bipartisan group of about 450 mayors nationwide, focus on the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. The agency, which has been sent a copy of the report, declined to comment.

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ATF agents should have greater discretion to conduct criminal investigations at gun shows identified as sources of firearms later seized in crimes, the report states, noting that "criminal activity endemic to some gun shows goes unchecked."(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: agenda; banglist; bho44; bhobanglist; congress; democrats; maig; mayors; obama
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To: knarf

And I bet every one of them either carries or has security that does.


51 posted on 10/02/2009 8:39:42 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Waste and fraud are synonymous with gov't spending)
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To: knarf
In my previous post I said:

My home state of California has 29 Mayors who signed onto this gun-grabbing petition, while my adopted state of Texas has just 1.

Looking at this a little closer, I realized that California has three times the population that Texas does.

So, dividing by three to get some idea of the per capita response among mayors between the two states, we see that it works out to an almost 10 to 1 ratio for gun-grabbing in California.

That's an amazing cultural difference.

52 posted on 10/02/2009 8:41:43 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: knarf

Judging by my state (NY), the cities listed have large minority populations and are constantly in the news for shootings. I cant believe these mayors think gun control of any kind will stop this. These people arent using guns bought on the street..which will STILL be there no matter how they want to control guns.

They should concentrate on these people and those guns, instead!!


53 posted on 10/02/2009 8:42:22 PM PDT by New Yawk Minute
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To: New Yawk Minute

Oops correction..I meant they ARE using guns bought on the street.


54 posted on 10/02/2009 8:44:58 PM PDT by New Yawk Minute
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To: Sender

I understand too that carrots will either make you go blind or kill you .. but yes, I be they’ll insert it into some bill ....


55 posted on 10/02/2009 8:47:10 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

The crime rate for gun incidents is out of sight in all those cities that are run by Democrats. Mex Mafia Gang Bangers and Crip/Blood Gangs dominate in them. Many are “Sanctuary Cities” or governed by uber-liberals.

A recent series of LEO operations showed that the majority of firearms collected were stolen or strawman purchases.


56 posted on 10/02/2009 8:53:15 PM PDT by TaMoDee
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin; smokingfrog; Windflier
LOL!!! Texas has only one mayor in this bunch...

...and so far,  four (4) of us Texas Freepers have checked up on him!!

Talk about being outnumbered! '-)

57 posted on 10/02/2009 8:58:07 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: elkfersupper
The Mayors need to realize that their Saviour (Obama) has lost his magic and that they should just shut up on the subject of firearms if they want to live past next week.

We can thank that little bast*rd from New York for this. He has made it his personal crusade to get rid of all guns in America by signing all of these mayors on to his dream!!

Everyone needs to find out if their mayor is on this list and get a bunch of gun owners to protest against him. I read where a bunch of people did that to their mayor and the next day he dropped out of Bloomberg's group and put an ad in the paper apologizing to the people in his city!

58 posted on 10/02/2009 8:59:55 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (THE ONLY ASTROTURF IN CONGRESS IS FOUND BETWEEN NANCY PELOSI'S EARS!!)
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To: TXnMA

I’m not from Texas yet. California, You guts probably wouldn’t let me in because of that and I wouldn’t blame ya.


59 posted on 10/02/2009 9:03:28 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Waste and fraud are synonymous with gov't spending)
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To: TXnMA
LOL!!! Texas has only one mayor in this bunch...

You just have to wonder about a Texas mayor who signs on to something like this. What the heck was he thinking?

60 posted on 10/02/2009 9:04:18 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Washington Post, presents 40 recommendations that "would dramatically improve law enforcement's ability to keep guns out of the hands of criminals -- and, in doing so, save innocent lives.

100 percent pure unvarnished B.S. Every place that has restricted private ownership of weapons has seen violent crime INCREASE!

61 posted on 10/02/2009 9:13:53 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: knarf
Heh, I just knew I'd find ol' Ray Nagin on that list. He has so much practical experience to offer to the organization.

I did sort of enjoy the fact that only *one* mayor in all of Texas was foolish enough to participate. Maybe he drew the short straw.

62 posted on 10/02/2009 9:14:42 PM PDT by Charles Martel (NRA Lifetime Member since 1984; TSRA rookie)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well lets see them come and take them. I sold all of mine last year. Private sales. I do not have even ONE left!

Guns are dangerous! I got rid of every last one of them.

Yesiree! I did.

63 posted on 10/02/2009 9:14:43 PM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Promise to kick out two wetbacks — and/or this dumb@$$ mayor — and we’ll hand you a Texas flag! ‘-)


64 posted on 10/02/2009 9:17:51 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Windflier
That's an amazing cultural difference.

Yeah, you'd think Texas and California were in different countries. Who knows, they might be in the near future.

65 posted on 10/02/2009 9:18:41 PM PDT by Charles Martel (NRA Lifetime Member since 1984; TSRA rookie)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Enforce the laws and punish lawbreakers you morons! Let the law abiding alone!


66 posted on 10/02/2009 9:18:45 PM PDT by my small voice (A biased media and an uneducated public is the biggest threat to our democracy)
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To: TXnMA; Lurkina.n.Learnin
Promise to kick out two wetbacks — and/or this dumb@$$ mayor — and we’ll hand you a Texas flag! ‘-)

When I moved to Texas, I was told that I needed to show possession of a gun collection and a pickup truck - and demonstrate my ability to use both.

Keeps out the riff-raff. ;-)

67 posted on 10/02/2009 9:22:00 PM PDT by Charles Martel (NRA Lifetime Member since 1984; TSRA rookie)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just goes to show that there are 450 mayors in the US that don’t understand the US Constitution and therefore are unqualified for the position that they hold.

Next.


68 posted on 10/02/2009 9:24:26 PM PDT by BCR #226 (07/02 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is there a listing of these 450 mayors? It would be very useful on election day. Each and every one of them is obviously qualified for gainful employment in the fast food industry.


69 posted on 10/02/2009 9:25:08 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: TXnMA

LOL you messed up my keyboard. Shouldn’t drink while reading.


70 posted on 10/02/2009 9:30:26 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Waste and fraud are synonymous with gov't spending)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
including steps to crack down on problems at gun shows

I just got back from a gun show. Didn't notice a single problem.

This article mentions "ATF agents should have greater discretion to conduct criminal investigations at gun shows identified as sources of firearms later seized in crimes,.." But, in typical WaPo, main stream media 'reporting' fails to mention what stops the ATF or any other law enforcement agency from investigating if criminal activity is suspected. They don't ask the question because they already know the answer and it doesn't support their biased position. The answer is there is nothing currently stopping the ATF or state/local law enforcement from investigating suspected criminal activity. (there have been police officers at every gun show I can remember attending)

By recent actions, the ATF has clearly demonstrated they're more interested in harassing people over shoelaces that can convert a rifle to automatic fire or prosecuting some poor guy whose rifle malfunctioned and fired more than one round on a trigger pull than they are in investigating crime.
71 posted on 10/02/2009 9:34:01 PM PDT by javachip (TARP - proof there is no situation so bad that government can't make it worse.)
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To: Charles Martel
Yeah, you'd think Texas and California were in different countries. Who knows, they might be in the near future.

I hope for the sake of our beloved republic that we never are.

I know that things are pretty dismal and utterly screwed up in California right now, but I have faith that the American people who live there will find their inner patriot at some point, and come out swinging against the commies that have ruined their state.

72 posted on 10/02/2009 9:47:33 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: chargers fan
Don't see either Monterey or Carmel listed. Wierd, I assumed I would. I only note because those two cities are old stompin' grounds.
73 posted on 10/02/2009 9:55:58 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Sprit of '76)
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To: Parley Baer

He leads this coalition


74 posted on 10/02/2009 9:57:37 PM PDT by Postman
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If the 2nd amendment didn’t allow for the individual possesion of firearms, then why didn’t the founding fathers immediately start confiscating firearms after July 4th, 1776?


75 posted on 10/02/2009 10:17:00 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ...In the US the number is 54%)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

NRA-ILA :: Three Indiana Mayors Defect from National Gun Control ...

Sep 25, 2009 ... 50 mayors nationally have resigned from the coalition. ... Bloomberg created “Mayors Against Illegal Guns” as a front group to lobby ... Your Help Is Needed In Support of BATFE Reform Bills S. 941 And H.R. 2296 ...


76 posted on 10/02/2009 10:24:20 PM PDT by CHICAGOFARMER ( “If you're not ready to die for it, put the word ''freedom'' out of your vocabulary.” – Malcolm)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What is a few hundred mayors against 100,000,000 gun owners...some people are just plain idiots..and 90% of them are elected officials....


77 posted on 10/03/2009 12:22:24 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Everything but the kitchen sink - and actually enforcing the many, many, many, MANY laws already on the books.

THAT would be too difficult, since it targets highly mobile and even occasionally rather violent lawbreakers, rather than innocent Americans sitting around watching TV in their livingrooms, who require what firearms they own for self-defense - since, as we’ve seen, no one’s minding the lawbreakers.

And, of course, our inept, misguided, ineffectual, moronic, and corrupt politicians can’t be seen as impotent in the face of crime they are both incapable of addressing, and unwilling to even attempt to address.

No votes in that.

They have to APPEAR to be doing something for the sake of an electorate which is largely too stupid, too preoccupied with their pleasures, and too indifferent to the distinction between justice and injustice to recognize, or even really care about, the difference between criminals and citizens.

As for law enforcement, they don’t get paid for sitting around on their slowly spreading bums twiddling their thumbs, collecting their benefits, and waiting for their pensions; yet certainly it’s better - and a heckuva lot easier and far less risky - to hassle John Q. Citizen than to seem to be doing nothing; or, worse yet, run around looking for and tangling with genuine Bad Guys.


78 posted on 10/03/2009 1:53:30 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (w)
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To: Domandred
...well, at times, I prefer the historical, succinct reply of
NUTS!!!

79 posted on 10/03/2009 2:15:02 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen ("All that's necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.")
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To: Secret Agent Man

From what I’ve read some “mayors” were added to this list without their agreement.


80 posted on 10/03/2009 3:49:14 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (google; operation garden spot and REX84 (FUBO))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Anyone here have a copy of the actual report???


81 posted on 10/03/2009 5:04:15 AM PDT by BorisTheBulletDodger (Bang!)
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To: Windflier
I know that things are pretty dismal and utterly screwed up in California right now, but I have faith that the American people who live there will find their inner patriot at some point, and come out swinging against the commies that have ruined their state.

I pray that your faith is not misplaced. The numbers that you mentioned upthread indicate that patriotic Californians have a Herculean task before them - and to even begin to turn the corner and commence mucking-out the Augean Stables would likely require some horrific event, like a major terrorist attack somewhere on the west coast.

All in all, not a pretty picture.

82 posted on 10/03/2009 10:44:34 AM PDT by Charles Martel (NRA Lifetime Member since 1984; TSRA rookie)
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To: Charles Martel
Californians have a Herculean task before them. All in all, not a pretty picture.

Agreed.

The conditions there aren't much different than the snapshot picture of the entire US situation, just on a smaller scale.

What California needs is its own resistance movement, with fierce patriots rising through the ranks to motivate the larger majority of its citizens.

I'm sure that there are many good Americans in California who are thinking and planning along just such lines right now. Yes, they do have a herculean task before them, but with the right appeals, from the right leadership, they can beat back the forces which are destroying their state.

At some point, the pain of liberal mishandling will become so great, that people there won't have anything left to lose. They'll fight back then, and it won't be with kid gloves.

Not unlike what is poised to occur across the whole US.

83 posted on 10/03/2009 11:34:28 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: NRA2BFree
Don't blame just New York.

The Mayor of Albuquerwue and most other cities are just as bad.

84 posted on 10/03/2009 5:56:47 PM PDT by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: All

“There are no plans for public release of the document, which is being distributed to key members of Obama’s administration and agencies affected by the recommendations.”

hmmmm . . . more transparent business as usual . . .


85 posted on 10/04/2009 9:59:22 AM PDT by TooFarGone (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
And federal prosecutors should more aggressively prosecute people who fail the background check, the study says. In 2005, the FBI referred 67,713 cases to the ATF, but federal prosecutors pursued only 135 of those cases.

This might not be such a bad thing for those being unjustly denied their rights. This could come back to haunt the gun-grabbers since SCOTUS said it was an individual right and the feds are denying it.

86 posted on 10/05/2009 12:22:27 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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