Skip to comments.‘Invention of Lying’: Anti-Christian
Posted on 10/04/2009 12:14:15 PM PDT by EveningStar
After a couple of weeks of unsubstantiated rumors, it has been confirmed that the forthcoming film The Invention of Lying is indeed intended to satirize religion and religious believers.
New York Post critic Kyle Smith has seen the film and describes it as a full-on attack on religion in general and Christianity in particular. It might be the most blatantly, one-sidedly atheist movie ever released by a major studio, in this case Warner Bros.
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Hollywood churns out another anti-Christian movie and no one pays money to see it. You’d think that they’d learn by now.
When will they start making anti-Muslim mobies?
After they don their explosive proof suits.
Include me out of watching this. I have liked all the principles actors’ work, but all are now on my black list, especially the Brit. Who does he think he is, BTW.
I saw it yesterday. It’s a little more complicated and can be interpreted in a number of contrary ways. There’s a materialist/darwinist theme that is attached to the status quo which is ultimately ‘redeemed’ by the Moses/Christ figure of the main character. I think Ricky Gervais got in over his head and lost control of the various messages he was attempting to interleave.
A quote from the movie:
Well, unfortunately, Mr. Hennessey, I have no idea how to fake killing 4,000 people - so we're just gonna have to do it for real. Blame it on the Muslims, naturally. Then I get my funding.
Pretty damn bad when the best thing at the movies is Toy Story in 3D
Is is true the Ricky Gervais, the other writer, is an atheist Jew? How much money is there in the anti-Christian industry? I've never found bigotry amusing though apparently, it's a big money maker.
Doesn’t this pony have any new tricks? Yawn....
It is funny to me that liberals are so interested in masterbation. They love to discuss it.
the worst movie I’ve seen in a long time. I like Gervais’ work, but this was beyond horrible. Even aside from the Moses bit, it was just terrible. Terrible acting. Not funny at all.
“Pretty damn bad when the best thing at the movies is Toy Story in 3D”
I KNOW! My husband mentioned after we saw this piece of junk that we’re only going to be able to see kid’s movies anymore.
“It is funny to me that liberals are so interested in masterbation. They love to discuss it.”
Ha! You know, I never realized it before, but you’re right. They do love talking about it. What IS that???
Maybe just trying to feel better about themselves? ;)
Is that what it is about? I thought that movie was about Geena Davis in tight clothes blowing stuff up.
Try going to Cloudy With A Chance of Meatballs...not only my 4-1/2 yr old granddaughter loved it but her parents too!
It seems, actually, PRO-faith to me.
The whole premise reeks of Anti-Christianity or some satanic doctrine..
The whole world is good (and does not lie), then one day ONE man decides to lie (for personal gain)- not to mention the moral much less relational consequences of this person’s deluded lies. It denies all responsibility for lying, and that includes accountability to God.
Did you consider asking the theater for your money back?
This alternate world wasn't "good" to begin with... it was plain and boring. There seemed no point at all to life.
SPOILER COMING ...
And actually... it was when the main character was watching his mother die that he "made up" the idea that there is an after-life and that made her happy and gave her peace. And then he told the world this same thing...
Like I said... I saw the movie as pro-faith. It was, by no means, a masterpiece. the film could have been much better. but it isn't an attack on christianity... unless you're pre-dispossed to want to hate religion, you shouldn't really take that away from the film.
“Did you consider asking the theater for your money back?”
To be honest, we kept holding out hope that the end would somehow justify the rest of the movie. Some sort of redeeming feature, like he realizing God really wasn’t a lie. Go such luck. I don’t really blame the theater. We should have waited to see some reviews before spending our money. Lesson learned.
I respectfully disagree. The movie made the world population (who believed his “lie”) out to be mind-numbed robots. And what was so pro-faith about calling God a killer? The only positive points that were made seem to be concerning receiving material things.
I'm curious about your perspective. The world population in this movie, from start to finish, never heard, could not comprehend and never uttered a statement that was not true. So they were not "mind-numbed robots", the simply are believers (but only by virtue of never having anything NOT to believe in).
And God is not called a killer in this movie. The "man in the sky" that is responsible for everything in the world was asked about... They asked if he creates natural disasters that kill people. The answer was YES. They asked if he's the reason people have been cured from cancer. The answer was YES.
These are questions that get asked of Christianity. And Christianity has answers for those questions.
I didn't think this was a great movie. I thought it was pretty average actually. But there was not a hateful or anti-religious message in there that I took away from it. I thought it illustrated how pointless life would be in a world WITHOUT faith.
Maybe we just came at it from different perspectives, but I didn't feel propagandized at all by the movie. (I was a bit bored because of the slow pace... but thought some of it was really funny.) I thought the scene where he gives his mother peace was illustrative of an underlying and undeniable truth.
I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree. One point I’d like to make clear, though, one character said “The man in the sky killed my father?” The answer was yes.
The fact is, telling everyone about the “man in the sky” was in his mind, a lie. Plain and simple.
I beleive in God and I saw the movie and I liked it....
But I can see why some believers would be offended, if
it was looked at too literally. I cried when his Mom
was dying and loved how he told her everything would be
The people in the movie who spoke all the bad lines, the
words (even though honest) you hope no one ever tells you were funny! But, notice how even with all that nasty honesty, the good people still shined through. The star never said bad things - he had a quiet dignity.
And actually... it was when the main character was watching his mother die that he “made up” the idea that there is an after-life and that made her happy and gave her peace. And then he told the world this same thing...
So basically you’re saying that he “made up” aka lied about what he thought was an after-life, a God, Redemption in Christ, etc..
(That would be promoting athism) as the premise is that he just “made up Christianity and Judism”.
I have read other revievs which claim this movie is anti-Christian! I am inclined to believe them..
Thanks for the heads up..
“Even though I have yet to see it, I love this movie. Three thumbs up!” — Roger Ebert
He did see it and gave it 3.5 stars.
This is actually an independently made film.
>>>So basically youre saying that he made up aka lied about what he thought was an after-life, a God, Redemption in Christ, etc..
(That would be promoting athism) as the premise is that he just made up Christianity and Judism.
I have read other revievs which claim this movie is anti-Christian! I am inclined to believe them..<<<
Like I said in the reply, it is just about your perspective. The movie's premise takes place in an alternate universe... one where no one knows (or knows of" God. That serves as the basis for you to judge the final message. If that base premise of the movie turns you off, then I wouldn't recommend seeing the movie to judge for yourself. Star Wars takes place "a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away" where, by any objective extrapolation, you can't assume the characters know of God. But they do explore Good and Evil (i.e. the "dark side").
So there was no "promoting" of anything, atheism included. In fact, my problem with the movie was that it didn't make a strong enough (or clear enough) statement about anything. I saw it as a film that illustrates how belief in something beyond what they know can inspire them. Depending on your perspective, you could go the other way... The film didn't actually make a definitive statement either way, and that's why I think it will be forgotten. I almost wonder if the filmmakers feared making too positive a statement (in the end) about belief and religion and ended up leaving it "vanilla" and open to interpretation.
btw... anyone ever see "The Life of Brian" ? Now that film would might be a little more suited for a thread topic like this one! lol
instead of blaming the writer or the studio, you are blaming the actor who just gets paid to read lines on a page?
No, I have blaming an actor who brags about being an atheist and shoots off his mouth about it. He reminds me of Burt Lancaster who did much the same thing after playing Moses, and then offered the public his village atheism. This guy is simply riding the same trendy wagon as Bill Maher, probably hoping to make a buck. Simply cant!