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‘Invention of Lying’: Anti-Christian
Big Hollywood ^ | October 2, 2009 | S.T. Karnick

Posted on 10/04/2009 12:14:15 PM PDT by EveningStar

After a couple of weeks of unsubstantiated rumors, it has been confirmed that the forthcoming film The Invention of Lying is indeed intended to satirize religion and religious believers.

New York Post critic Kyle Smith has seen the film and describes it as “a full-on attack on religion in general and Christianity in particular. It might be the most blatantly, one-sidedly atheist movie ever released by a major studio, in this case Warner Bros.”

(Excerpt) Read more at bighollywood.breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: antichristian; antichristianbigotry; antireligion; film; filmreview; hollywood; inventionoflying; lying; movie; moviereview

1 posted on 10/04/2009 12:14:15 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Hollywood churns out another anti-Christian movie and no one pays money to see it. You’d think that they’d learn by now.


2 posted on 10/04/2009 12:15:51 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Liberal sacred cows make great hamburger)
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To: EveningStar

When will they start making anti-Muslim mobies?


3 posted on 10/04/2009 12:15:52 PM PDT by GeronL (meow)
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To: GeronL

After they don their explosive proof suits.


4 posted on 10/04/2009 12:18:04 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Borges; DollyCali

Movie ping


5 posted on 10/04/2009 12:18:42 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Clintonfatigued

Include me out of watching this. I have liked all the principles actors’ work, but all are now on my black list, especially the Brit. Who does he think he is, BTW.


6 posted on 10/04/2009 12:20:58 PM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE HOMO!)
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To: EveningStar

I saw it yesterday. It’s a little more complicated and can be interpreted in a number of contrary ways. There’s a materialist/darwinist theme that is attached to the status quo which is ultimately ‘redeemed’ by the Moses/Christ figure of the main character. I think Ricky Gervais got in over his head and lost control of the various messages he was attempting to interleave.


7 posted on 10/04/2009 12:22:26 PM PDT by Ozone34 ("There are only two philosophies: Thomism and bullshitism!" -Leon Bloy)
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To: EveningStar
Unfortunately my husband I went to see this movie last night and it is all the author of the article suggests. It's highly insulting to Christians and to the Judeo/Christian religion. Also, it is rated PG-13 with subject matter which should not be viewed by anyone under 18 in my opinion, including an extended conversation of masturbation at the beginning of the film and one character cursing God with the F-word. On top of it all, Ricky Gervais is not funny. If I wasn't so incensed by the subject, I would have probably fallen asleep. Insulting, unfunny and boring!
8 posted on 10/04/2009 12:25:04 PM PDT by Softballmom
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To: EveningStar
Last night we watched the 1996 movie, The Long Kiss Goodnight. It turned out that the premise of the movie revolved around the CIA being responsible for the first Twin Towers attack and was planning another terrorist attack. That's what the liberals believe, so that's what they write, and those are the movies the make.

A quote from the movie:

Well, unfortunately, Mr. Hennessey, I have no idea how to fake killing 4,000 people - so we're just gonna have to do it for real. Blame it on the Muslims, naturally. Then I get my funding.

9 posted on 10/04/2009 12:33:07 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Hear us, O Bama: Mmm, mmm, mmm.)
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To: Softballmom

Pretty damn bad when the best thing at the movies is Toy Story in 3D


10 posted on 10/04/2009 1:04:55 PM PDT by Taffini ( Mr. Pippen and Mr. Waffles do not approve)
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To: EveningStar
Is this the resume of Matthew Robinson, one of the writers of the anti-Christian film?
http://www.creativehotlist.com/index.asp?linkTarget=fullProfile.asp&indID=107320

Is is true the Ricky Gervais, the other writer, is an atheist Jew? How much money is there in the anti-Christian industry? I've never found bigotry amusing though apparently, it's a big money maker.

11 posted on 10/04/2009 1:07:49 PM PDT by EverOnward
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To: EveningStar

Doesn’t this pony have any new tricks? Yawn....


12 posted on 10/04/2009 1:19:21 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Softballmom

It is funny to me that liberals are so interested in masterbation. They love to discuss it.


13 posted on 10/04/2009 1:21:00 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: EveningStar

the worst movie I’ve seen in a long time. I like Gervais’ work, but this was beyond horrible. Even aside from the Moses bit, it was just terrible. Terrible acting. Not funny at all.


14 posted on 10/04/2009 1:38:44 PM PDT by Cousin Eddie
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To: Taffini

“Pretty damn bad when the best thing at the movies is Toy Story in 3D”

I KNOW! My husband mentioned after we saw this piece of junk that we’re only going to be able to see kid’s movies anymore.


15 posted on 10/04/2009 1:38:48 PM PDT by Softballmom
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To: brytlea

“It is funny to me that liberals are so interested in masterbation. They love to discuss it.”

Ha! You know, I never realized it before, but you’re right. They do love talking about it. What IS that???


16 posted on 10/04/2009 1:40:44 PM PDT by Softballmom
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To: Softballmom

Maybe just trying to feel better about themselves? ;)


17 posted on 10/04/2009 1:50:33 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Is that what it is about? I thought that movie was about Geena Davis in tight clothes blowing stuff up.


18 posted on 10/04/2009 1:54:22 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: EveningStar
Sad sad sad that Jennifer Garner would be part of this!!!
...but then she IS married to Ben Affleck.

Try going to Cloudy With A Chance of Meatballs...not only my 4-1/2 yr old granddaughter loved it but her parents too!

19 posted on 10/04/2009 1:57:39 PM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: EveningStar
I saw the movie. The concept was good, but it didn't really end up with a solid point of view. I don't think it should be thought of as anti-Christian though.

It seems, actually, PRO-faith to me.

20 posted on 10/04/2009 2:00:40 PM PDT by freestyle
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To: EveningStar

The whole premise reeks of Anti-Christianity or some satanic doctrine..

The whole world is good (and does not lie), then one day ONE man decides to lie (for personal gain)- not to mention the moral much less relational consequences of this person’s deluded lies. It denies all responsibility for lying, and that includes accountability to God.


21 posted on 10/04/2009 2:01:26 PM PDT by JSDude1 (www.wethepeopleindiana.org (Tea Party Member-Proud), www.travishankins.com (R- IN 09 2010!))
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To: Softballmom

Did you consider asking the theater for your money back?


22 posted on 10/04/2009 2:16:58 PM PDT by highway61
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To: JSDude1
That's not the premise...

This alternate world wasn't "good" to begin with... it was plain and boring. There seemed no point at all to life.

SPOILER COMING ...

And actually... it was when the main character was watching his mother die that he "made up" the idea that there is an after-life and that made her happy and gave her peace. And then he told the world this same thing...

Like I said... I saw the movie as pro-faith. It was, by no means, a masterpiece. the film could have been much better. but it isn't an attack on christianity... unless you're pre-dispossed to want to hate religion, you shouldn't really take that away from the film.

23 posted on 10/04/2009 2:20:18 PM PDT by freestyle
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To: highway61

“Did you consider asking the theater for your money back?”

To be honest, we kept holding out hope that the end would somehow justify the rest of the movie. Some sort of redeeming feature, like he realizing God really wasn’t a lie. Go such luck. I don’t really blame the theater. We should have waited to see some reviews before spending our money. Lesson learned.


24 posted on 10/04/2009 2:25:05 PM PDT by Softballmom
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To: freestyle

I respectfully disagree. The movie made the world population (who believed his “lie”) out to be mind-numbed robots. And what was so pro-faith about calling God a killer? The only positive points that were made seem to be concerning receiving material things.


25 posted on 10/04/2009 2:30:45 PM PDT by Softballmom
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To: Softballmom
"I respectfully disagree. The movie made the world population (who believed his “lie”) out to be mind-numbed robots. And what was so pro-faith about calling God a killer? The only positive points that were made seem to be concerning receiving material things."

I'm curious about your perspective. The world population in this movie, from start to finish, never heard, could not comprehend and never uttered a statement that was not true. So they were not "mind-numbed robots", the simply are believers (but only by virtue of never having anything NOT to believe in).

And God is not called a killer in this movie. The "man in the sky" that is responsible for everything in the world was asked about... They asked if he creates natural disasters that kill people. The answer was YES. They asked if he's the reason people have been cured from cancer. The answer was YES.

These are questions that get asked of Christianity. And Christianity has answers for those questions.

I didn't think this was a great movie. I thought it was pretty average actually. But there was not a hateful or anti-religious message in there that I took away from it. I thought it illustrated how pointless life would be in a world WITHOUT faith.

Maybe we just came at it from different perspectives, but I didn't feel propagandized at all by the movie. (I was a bit bored because of the slow pace... but thought some of it was really funny.) I thought the scene where he gives his mother peace was illustrative of an underlying and undeniable truth.

26 posted on 10/04/2009 2:49:36 PM PDT by freestyle
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To: freestyle

I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree. One point I’d like to make clear, though, one character said “The man in the sky killed my father?” The answer was yes.

The fact is, telling everyone about the “man in the sky” was in his mind, a lie. Plain and simple.


27 posted on 10/04/2009 4:02:12 PM PDT by Softballmom
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To: freestyle

I beleive in God and I saw the movie and I liked it....
But I can see why some believers would be offended, if
it was looked at too literally. I cried when his Mom
was dying and loved how he told her everything would be
fine...
The people in the movie who spoke all the bad lines, the
words (even though honest) you hope no one ever tells you were funny! But, notice how even with all that nasty honesty, the good people still shined through. The star never said bad things - he had a quiet dignity.


28 posted on 10/04/2009 4:18:16 PM PDT by savage woman
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To: freestyle

And actually... it was when the main character was watching his mother die that he “made up” the idea that there is an after-life and that made her happy and gave her peace. And then he told the world this same thing...

So basically you’re saying that he “made up” aka lied about what he thought was an after-life, a God, Redemption in Christ, etc..

(That would be promoting athism) as the premise is that he just “made up Christianity and Judism”.

I have read other revievs which claim this movie is anti-Christian! I am inclined to believe them..


29 posted on 10/04/2009 7:54:57 PM PDT by JSDude1 (www.wethepeopleindiana.org (Tea Party Member-Proud), www.travishankins.com (R- IN 09 2010!))
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To: EveningStar

Thanks for the heads up..


30 posted on 10/04/2009 8:00:14 PM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!you)
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To: EveningStar

“Even though I have yet to see it, I love this movie. Three thumbs up!” — Roger Ebert


31 posted on 10/04/2009 8:19:08 PM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: tang-soo

He did see it and gave it 3.5 stars.


32 posted on 10/05/2009 10:08:21 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Clintonfatigued

This is actually an independently made film.


33 posted on 10/05/2009 10:08:57 AM PDT by Borges
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To: JSDude1
>And actually... it was when the main character was watching his mother die that he “made up” the idea that there is an after-life and that made her happy and gave her peace. And then he told the world this same thing...<

>>>So basically you’re saying that he “made up” aka lied about what he thought was an after-life, a God, Redemption in Christ, etc..

(That would be promoting athism) as the premise is that he just “made up Christianity and Judism”.

I have read other revievs which claim this movie is anti-Christian! I am inclined to believe them..<<<

Like I said in the reply, it is just about your perspective. The movie's premise takes place in an alternate universe... one where no one knows (or knows of" God. That serves as the basis for you to judge the final message. If that base premise of the movie turns you off, then I wouldn't recommend seeing the movie to judge for yourself. Star Wars takes place "a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away" where, by any objective extrapolation, you can't assume the characters know of God. But they do explore Good and Evil (i.e. the "dark side").

So there was no "promoting" of anything, atheism included. In fact, my problem with the movie was that it didn't make a strong enough (or clear enough) statement about anything. I saw it as a film that illustrates how belief in something beyond what they know can inspire them. Depending on your perspective, you could go the other way... The film didn't actually make a definitive statement either way, and that's why I think it will be forgotten. I almost wonder if the filmmakers feared making too positive a statement (in the end) about belief and religion and ended up leaving it "vanilla" and open to interpretation.

btw... anyone ever see "The Life of Brian" ? Now that film would might be a little more suited for a thread topic like this one! lol

34 posted on 10/05/2009 2:39:42 PM PDT by freestyle
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To: RobbyS
talk about killing the messenger!

instead of blaming the writer or the studio, you are blaming the actor who just gets paid to read lines on a page?

35 posted on 10/05/2009 2:41:45 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor

No, I have blaming an actor who brags about being an atheist and shoots off his mouth about it. He reminds me of Burt Lancaster who did much the same thing after playing Moses, and then offered the public his village atheism. This guy is simply riding the same trendy wagon as Bill Maher, probably hoping to make a buck. Simply cant!


36 posted on 10/05/2009 6:55:30 PM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE HOMO!)
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