Women 'Soon' Will Serve on Submarines, Navy Secretary Says

American Forces Press Service ^ | John J. Kruzel

[SandRat]

Now seems to me there was a Tony Curtis and Cary Grant movie along those lines. Hmmmmm...

Operaton Petticot

[OCCASparky]

Oh yeah, I know of which you speak. I musta pissed the COB off something fierce one ‘Pac, cause he put me in Rack 21, 21-man, which is right next to the hatch for Dry Stores and my head was up against the bulkhead for the Laundry Space. Fortunately, the guy across the aisle from me was a very large M-Div’er who had no problems punching dumbass cooks in the head who couldn’t keep the noise down when retreiving a can of flour.

[NY Attitude]

Even Helen Thomas???????????

[screaminsunshine]

A SAILOR CAN f UP ANYTHING GIVEN TIME.

[50cal Smokepole]

I was thinking 9 months for some reason, but what do I know? ;-)

[Gay State Conservative]

But on the flip side I was an E-4 after six months...

Does the Navy ordinarily promote that quickly...or is it just "the Silent Service"?

...and never crawled in the mud.

Apart from BCT,neither did I.One of the many advantages of being in command of a typewriter and some filing cabinets. ;-)

[OCCASparky]

But on the flip side I was an E-4 after six months and never crawled in the mud.

I hear that...even making ET3 in a year was nice. I made ET1 in 6. When I got frocked, I went to the Top-4 Club at Hickham AFB one night. The positively ancient E-4 AP got right up in my face when he saw me in there, demanding my ID, who was my CSM, etc...and he was a good 10 years older than me. Imagine the look on his face when I whipped out that PO1 ID, and I wasn't even 25 years old yet. Ah, good times.

[Diana in Wisconsin]

Ernest Borgnine Rules! Or was he in the TV show they made after the movie? Tim Conway, too? ;)

[sionnsar]

Bring back Submarine Races...

[Charles Martel]

Gives Seamen a whole new meaning.

Adds a new dimension to the term "hot racking", too.

[NY Attitude]

I would bet that it would be a sight to have the women that are aboard to do the dance made famous by Sub crews.

[DocH]

Here we go again.

PC over practicality, discipline, efficiency, tradition, etc.

[mylife]

Believe me the crew will deteriorate long before that.

As other have noted, they will require special treatment and that means taking the rest of the crews resources.

That makes for an unhappy crew.

Yeah, the Babes get their own berthing an heads and an equal amount of guys get to sleep ontop of torpedoes and lose a shower and part the head?

Nope. I cant see it happening.

[Doohickey]

Who would get to snake the feminine hygeine products out of San 2?

[OCCASparky]

Does the Navy ordinarily promote that quickly...or is it just "the Silent Service"?

Not ordinarily, and not even all submarine rates. Nukes and other "Advanced Programs" typically come in as E-2's or E-3's (all nukes are E-3), and get "pushbutton" E-4 after completion of required schools. Typically, the average sailor makes E-4 in around 3 years, E-5 in about 5 years, and E-6 in 9 years.

[Pan_Yan]

Now my info is a few years old so the numbers might be outdated. This is how it worked when I went through in the late 80s early 90s. Everyone in the ‘nuclear pipeline’ is an E-4 before they enter Naval Nuclear Power School. Usually, the Navy gets Nucs by finding college kids that have drunk all their money away, offers them a few thousand dollars to enlist and E-4 out of A school. They sign up for six years because nuc training is almost 2 years. Then they give them another $10-15K for reenlisting at their 2 year point, when most haven’t been on deployment. Now the Navy owns you for eight years. After eight years most are disgruntled and turn down the next reenlistment bonus even though when I got out it was between $30 - 45K for an additional two years.

[OCCASparky]

I would bet that it would be a sight to have the women that are aboard to do the dance made famous by Sub crews.

Oh, I'd pay good money to see one of them run around the Horse and Cow doing the, "Dance of the Flaming A***oles."

[mylife]

I have a suggestion. and the gals aint gonna like it.

[NY Attitude]

You got that right! LOL.

[ColdWater]

Not ordinarily, and not even all submarine rates. Nukes and other "Advanced Programs" typically come in as E-2's or E-3's (all nukes are E-3), and get "pushbutton" E-4 after completion of required schools. Typically, the average sailor makes E-4 in around 3 years, E-5 in about 5 years, and E-6 in 9 years.

Back in the old days ..... I entered E3, E4 after A school, E5 after Nuke school and E6 in 4 1/2.