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This guy has an interesting book.
I’ve read it. I believe him.
Reading a comments section to an article: 3 comments asked if there were too many fingers on Sohale Siddiqi’s knee?
OMG! Is that Barry holding the cigarette and they are holding hands? I can’t tell for sure but it looks like there are 2 different colored fingers entwined there.
I have several people looking at it, undetermined so far. Someone needs to analyze the photo so it isn’t distorted when blown up. Where is Sid’s other hand? Blow the photo up and look at it good.
Please, someone do some tech stuff and figure this out!
Some of those fingers on the cigarette are pointing the wrong way to be Siddiq’s.
This is freaking revolting.
Mojitojoe: I pinged you because I thought you or PhilDragoo may be able to blow up & sharpen photo. Is that possible to do, so we know for sure?
I tried. Not much luck. I have some other people looking at it, can’t reach the one that would be able to. He is in Jamaica until the end of the month. Maybe Phil. What about Polarik?
He’s married now. He sure as heck looks gay there. Back in those days, being gay wasn’t cool. They hid it and many of them married later on.
He seems to be posing with the palm plant. A gift, maybe?
see post #254; can you blow up & sharpen photo?
Possibly. Is Siddiqi married now? Has he ever been married prior to 1/2008?
I thought that was N-S and mlo when they play with their computer keyboards???
Please, no more than one-to-a-cushion.
Wow, Barry has ‘em enthralled with his knowledge of nothing.
Position number two is two people holding hands. We need this blown up.
They ARE holding hands. Very visible.
Where did this poem come from? Obama’s book?
lol; thx; looks pretty obvious in that photo!
Never mind, it is Obama’s....GAY....wholly crap.
Yeah, what ever happened to the “we’re going after the CIA” bit ??? That seems to have disappeared.
No, this is about his father? Did he know his father? Who is POP?
Each # represents a hand. I find 5 of them. I don’t see how the fleshy object on Zero’s left leg can be anything but a hand.
I also noticed that “part” under BHO’s foot. Was wondering if it was photoshopped to detract from the activity on Saddiqi’s knee? It does look like flesh.
And when retention goes thru the floor,,,,,,I get it, it’s what 0’b wants.
I was just getting ready to post my enhance pic but yours looks like mine. You use Infanview?
Position number two has nine fingers, so it is two hands.
I don't even want to think about it. Was that shown in earlier photos, too?
Could the flesh colored bit under his shoe on our left, just below the hem of his jeans be laces? That's the color of those workboots' laces, isn't it?
No. Siddiq has never married. He is a recovering cocaine addict who raises money for a Seattle hteatre group. Still illegal.
List of obama college friends:
Below is a list of Barack Obamas friends and associates.
Frank Marshall Davis, Communist mentor to Barack Obama and sexual deviant.
Robert McCrary a former classmate at Occidental College. McCrary is now a general manager of a contract sewing company. He saw Obama as “cocky, sometimes arrogant...and not open to others.”
Paul Carpenter Obama’s freshman roommate at Occidental and now a Los Angeles lawyer. Carpenter recalls Obama being a “a good body-surfer”, “an athletic guy”, and “super-bright”.
Margot Mifflin, a friend from Occidental who is now a journalism professor at New York’s Lehman College.
Jon K. Mitchell a friend from Occidental who now plays bass for the country-swing band Asleep at the Wheel.
Imad Husain a Pakistani and Obama’s freshman roommate at Occidental. Husain is now a Boston banker.
Mohammed Hasan Chandoo a wealthy Pakistani friend of Obama when he was a freshman. He is a now a self-employed financial consultant living in Armonk, New York.
Wahid Hamid a wealthy Pakistani friend of Obama when he was a freshmam. Hamid and Obama traveled to Karachi, Pakistan after graduation from Occidental and stayed with the family of Mohammed Hasan Chandoo. Hamid is now a vice president at Pepsico in New York City.
Vinai Thummalapally an Obama college roommate in the summer of 1980. Thummalapally is from Hyderabad, India. Obama visited Hyderabad, India and Karachi, Pakistan during a three week period with Wahid Hamid after his graduation from Occidental. He is president of a CD and DVD manufacturing company in Colorado Springs, Colorado.
Sohale Siddiqi is identified as “Sadik” in Obama’s memoir, Dreams From My Father, and is described as “a short, well-built Pakistani” who smoked marijuana, snorted cocaine and liked to party. Siddiqi was from Karachi, Pakistan, and Obama’s roommate when he attended Columbia University. Siddiqi was not a student at Columbia and became an illegal alien having over stay his tourist visa. Obama knew Saddiqi when he visited Chandoo and Hamid at Occidental. Siddiqi claims Obama stopped using drugs when he arrived at Columbia. Siddiqi is a recovering drug addict and now lives in Seattle working for a community theater.
Phil Boerner A transfer student from Occidental College and roommate of Obamas when they were living together in New York City.
Andrew Roth knew Obama at Occidental College and in New York City. Roth said that back then “The thought...never crossed my mind that he would be our first black president.”
Cassandra Butts a friend from law school who now works at the Center for American Progress. Of Obama she said, “People see in him what they want to see.”
Michael Froman a friend from law school and now an executive at Citigroup.
Laurence Tribe a professor at Harvard who said Obama was one of his two best students. “He had a very powerful ability to synthesize diverse sources of information
Yes, it is two hands. There is no doubt now that I’ve clarified them. See my post below of just the hands
yes...laces; think you are right about that...but, what about the “flesh” under the side of his boot (where you have the “?”). That was what I was referring to (I had missed the laces)
#285 do anything?
Cruising for “girls???”
When Obama arrived in New York, he already knew Siddiqi a friend of Chandoo’s and Hamid’s from Karachi who had visited Los Angeles. Looking back, Siddiqi acknowledges that he and Obama were an odd couple. Siddiqi would mock Obama’s idealism he just wanted to make a lot of money and buy things, while Obama wanted to help the poor.
“At that age, I thought he was a saint and a square, and he took himself too seriously,” Siddiqi said. “I would ask him why he was so serious. He was genuinely concerned with the plight of the poor. He’d give me lectures, which I found very boring. He must have found me very irritating.”
Siddiqi offered the most expansive account of Obama as a young man.
“We were both very lost. We were both alienated, although he might not put it that way. He arrived disheveled and without a place to stay,” said Siddiqi, who at the time worked as a waiter and as a salesman at a boutique.
The Obama campaign declined to discuss Obama’s time at Columbia and his friendships in general. It won’t, for example, release his transcript or name his friends. It did, however, list five locations where Obama lived during his four years here: three on Manhattan’s Upper West Side and two in Brooklyn one in Park Slope, the other in Brooklyn Heights. His memoir mentions two others on Manhattan’s Upper East Side.
In about 1982, Siddiqi and Obama got an apartment at a sixth-floor walkup on East 94th Street. Siddiqi managed to get the apartment thanks to subterfuge.
“We didn’t have a chance in hell of getting this apartment unless we fabricated the lease application,” Siddiqi said.
Siddiqi fudged his credentials, saying he had a high-paying job at a catering company, but Obama “wanted no part of it. He put down the truth.”
The apartment was “a slum of a place” in a drug-ridden neighborhood filled with gunshots, he said. “It wasn’t a comfortable existence. We were slumming it.” What little furniture they had was found on the street, and guests would have to hold their dinner plates in their laps.
While Obama has acknowledged using marijuana and cocaine during high school in Hawaii, he writes in the memoir that he stopped using soon after his arrival in New York. His roommate had no such scruples.
Siddiqi says that during their time together here, Obama always refused his offers of drugs.
In his memoir and in interviews, Obama has said he got serious and buckled down in New York. “I didn’t socialize that much. I was like a monk,” he said in a 2005 Columbia alumni magazine interview. He told biographer David Mendell: “For about two years there, I was just painfully alone and really not focused on anything, except maybe thinking a lot.”
In his memoir, Obama recalls fasting on Sunday; Siddiqi says Obama was a follower of comedian-activist Dick Gregory’s vegetarian diet. “I think self-deprivation was his shtick, denying himself pleasure, good food and all of that.”
But it wasn’t exactly an ascetic life. There was plenty of time for reading (Gabriel Garcia Marquez, V.S. Naipaul) and listening to music (Van Morrison, the Ohio Players, Bob Dylan). The two, along with others, went out for nights on the town. “He wasn’t entirely a hermit,” Siddiqi said.
Siddiqi said his female friends thought Obama was “a hunk.”
“We were always competing,” he said. “You know how it is. You go to a bar and you try hitting on the girls. He had a lot more success. I wouldn’t outcompete him in picking up girls, that’s for sure.”
Obama was a tolerant roommate. Siddiqi’s mother, who had never been around a black man, came to visit, and she was rude; Obama was nothing but polite. Siddiqi himself could be intemperate he called Obama an Uncle Tom, but Obama “was really patient. I’m surprised he suffered me.”
Finally, their relationship started to fray. “I was partying all the time. I was disrupting his studies,” Siddiqi said. Obama moved out.
Could the ? possibly be something hanging off his jacket zipper?
Looks like two hands to me.
Yes, it is two hands.
What about the questions in red below the two hands?
The part that looks photoshopped is obama’s right hand, the fully visible hand. Notice the squared off black rectangular shaped “boxes” that are supposed to be his coat. They are cut off at sharp angles.
Saddiq’s watch also seems superimposed. There is part of a watch on his wrist, but the one on TOP overlaps his pantleg. That is not possible.
“Mohammed Hasan Chandoo” -— Chandoo Brothers
Several cites refer to the “Chandoo Brothers.” Apparently they had a web site (now scrubbed).
Karl Note:I went to that site and found this notice:
Welcome to Chandoo.com
This site is temporarily under (re)construction.
the home page of the Chandoo brothers, with a links to the Chandoo brothers favourite sites. Not only are the sites anti_American and anti-Semitic, they are anti-women, with several vulgar references to the distasteful Shia Muslim practice of “muttah.” Shia recognize muttah as an accepted practice. It is a short term marriage where by a contract states the length of the marriage and the consideration to be paid.
In reality, muttah is a purported short-term marriage, whereby poor Pakistani and Indian Muslims often “pimp” their own daughters to Middle-East tourists for a few rupees when visiting the Indian Sub-Continent. Elitist Muslims use muttah to as a means to exploit poor attractive young woman and girls just reaching puberty for a few rupees. If Obama befriended the Chandoo brothers, as claimed by his campaign, what does that say about his “judgment?”
In 1981 Barack Obama visited Pakistan stayed with Mohammed Hasan Chandoo, who are the Chandoo Brothers?
September 18th, 2008 · 3 Comments
For some reason Barack Obama has never mentioned his three week stay in Pakistan in any of his writings. On the infamous San Francisco trip in which Obama called small town Americans bitter he also bragged that he had more foreign policy credentials than Hillary Clinton and John McCain. One of the things he listed on his resume was his extensive foreign travel including a 1981 trip to Pakistan. However since this admission, slip of the tongue, or however you would characterize it, Obama has never mentioned this trip again.
Although his campaign manager did discuss it when pressed:
As a freshman, he quickly became friends with Mohammed Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, two wealthy Pakistanis
In 1981, Obama transferred from Occidental to Columbia. In between, he traveled to Pakistan - a trip that enhanced his foreign policy qualifications, he maintained in a private speech at a San Francisco fundraiser last month. Obama spent about three weeks in Pakistan, traveling with Hamid and staying in Karachi with Chandoos family, said Bill Burton, Obamas press secretary.
The Chandoo he was referring to is Mohammed Hassan Chandoo which this website claims is now a major campaign bundler for Obama:
Bundler: Hasan Chandoo
Oppenheimer & Co
Bundler Status for 2008:
Bundler for Barack Obama, raised at least $100,000.00
Chandoo is one of the Chandoo Brothers, Mohammed Askari Chandoo has his own website entitled www.chandoo.com. He lists his brothers email addresses:
Welcome to the Chandoo.com website. The following pages are available on this site:
Bush News Network (BNN)
Khoja News Network (KNN)
Knights Alumni Society (The Alumni Society of Karachi American School)
Mohammed Askari Chandoos homepage.
To get in touch with us:
Ahmed Ali Chandoo ahmed at chandoo dot com
Hasnain Chandoo hasnain at chandoo dot com
Mohammed Askari Chandoo askari at chandoo dot com
Mohammed Hasan Chandoo hasan at chandoo dot com
Also contained in that homepage is links to other pages of Chandoos website including The Bush News Network which is an anti Republican website.
On the Politics page he has this picture of President Bush:
Under the picture he lists 14 defining characteristics of fascism.
On the Bush News Network he has this entry:
George W. Bush Receives Key
The Organization for Incestuous Living (OIL) threw its firm support behind President George W. Bush in his bid for a second term.
OIL said that the President was just like them:
Were both from the south; we love beer; we love our families (only we love them literally); and we have the same IQ.
The NY Times have invaded Wasilla, Alaska talking with any person they can find who knows Sarah Palin. Why have the NY Times not interviewed the Chandoo Brothers? Why have they not asked Barack Obama what he was doing in Pakistan.
Who are these brothers?
UPDATE: The NY Times is aware of the Chandoo Brothers, they wrote about them here:
During the speech, Mr. Obama also spoke about having traveled to Pakistan in the early 1980s. Because of that trip, which he did not mention in either of his autobiographical books, I knew what Sunni and Shia was before I joined the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, he said.
Over all, Mr. Obamas remarks seemed directed primarily at his Democratic rival, Mrs. Clinton. But some of his digs, including the one about distinguishing Shias from Sunnis, also apply to Mr. McCain, whose campaign offered a sharp, mocking response to Mr. Obamas claim to expertise.
When John McCain travels on official business, he meets with presidents, prime ministers, foreign and defense ministers, members of parliament, human rights leaders, N.G.O.s, business leaders and journalists so that he acquires a full understanding of the country he visits and the issues at stake in our relations, said Mark Salter, a senior adviser to Mr. McCain. Oh, and as Senator Obama may know, he has actually spent some time living abroad as well.
Even more than a gap on specific policies, Mr. Obama and Mr. McCains respective positions represent a fundamental philosophical difference. Mr. Obamas advisers argue that there are multiple aspects to experience, each of which can be relevant. Mr. Obamas experience provides a different kind of insight than the traditional résumé, said Susan E. Rice, a former assistant secretary of state for African affairs and a National Security Council official who is one of Mr. Obamas foreign policy advisers.
At a time when our foreign policy and national security have so obviously suffered from a simplistic, black-and-white interpretation, Ms. Rice added, having an American president who spent part of his formative years and young adulthood living in a poor country under a dictatorship brings an understanding of the complexity of things that others may not have. Im not saying that official travels and Congressional delegations are without value, but there are limits to what you can glean from that.
Mr. Obamas advisers acknowledge that there are gaps in his experience he has never traveled to Latin America, for instance but they maintain that the sound judgment they say he has demonstrated on foreign policy issues, like Iraq and Pakistan, where he wants the United States to distance itself from Gen. Pervez Musharraf, more than compensates for any such shortcomings.
According to his campaign staff, Mr. Obama visited Pakistan in 1981, on the way back from Indonesia, where his mother and half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, were living. He spent about three weeks there, Mr. Obamas press secretary, Bill Burton, said, staying in Karachi with the family of a college friend, Mohammed Hasan Chandoo, but also traveling to Hyderabad, in India.
Mr. Obama appears not to have previously cited his travel in Pakistan in speeches during the campaign. In Dreams from My Father, he talks of having a Pakistani roommate when he moved to New York, a man he calls Sadik who had overstayed his tourist visa and now made a living in New Yorks high-turnover, illegal immigrant work force, waiting on tables.
Mr. Obama, the campaign and his publisher have not provided any details about the identity of Sadik.
During his years at Occidental College, Mr. Obama also befriended Wahid Hamid, a fellow student who was an immigrant from Pakistan and traveled with Mr. Obama there, the Obama campaign said. Mr. Hamid is now a vice president at Pepsico in New York, and according to public records, has donated the maximum $2,300 to the Obama campaign and is listed as a fund-raiser for it.
Mr. Chandoo is now a self-employed financial consultant, living in Armonk, N.Y. He has also donated the maximum, $2,300, to Mr. Obamas primary campaign and an additional $309 for the general election, campaign finance records show.
This website does not support the harassment of people related to or friends of the candidates. All we are asking for is a fair media. If you are going to question people who went to college with Sarah Palin, then certainly you can call up the Chandoo brothers and ask about Obamas trip to Pakistan. This is perfectly fair, also consider that it is alleged that Mohammed Hasan Chandoo is a major bundler of Obama, bundling is the way in which the Obama campaign has taken lobbyist money while claiming to be lobbyist free.
For all we know Obama and Chandoo were just taking a simple tourist trip through Pakistan, all Obama has to do is answer what he was doing there.
More on Hasan Chandoos brother, Askari Chandoo here, includes his work for Barack Obama:
Askari Chandoo is a self-employed finance wonk in Karachi, Pakistan. His living in Pakistan, Greece, the United Arab Emirates, England, and the U.S. has given him an understanding for cultures and points of views other than his own. He has been active in politics for several years, having organized voter registration drives at masjids; helping to raise money for Barack Obamas (D-IL) successful senatorial campaign; and serving on the executive committee of the satirical protest group Billionaires for Bush, where, in his alter ego of Cassius King, he headed up the groups messaging effort as the Minister of Rhetorical Rhetoric and also served as its treasurer, better known as the Minister of Theoretical Finance. He currently sits on the board of Friends Welfare Trust, a non-profit providing housing, medical, and education assistance to poor Shia families in Karachi. Askari is a card-carrying member of the ACLU and a non-card carrying member of the Khoja (Pirhai) Ithna-Asheri Jamaat. His applications for country club memberships have been consistently rejected. Askari holds a BA from Brown University, where he graduated at the top of his class, and an M.Phil. with honors from the University of Cambridge.
In fairness to Mohammed Askari Chandoo he posted this on the LA Times website:
In response to Mr. Fred Bergs comments: Wow! What a generalization you make regarding Muslims. Muslims have tried very hard to integrate into the U.S., and are as supportive of our country as anyone. As a very small example, a group of us Muslims goes to soup kitchens in New York City on Christmas day to serve meals to the needy. We do this because of humanity and because our faith commands us to treat everyone kindly, which is far more than I can say for your comments.
Posted by: Mohammed Askari Chandoo | July 16, 2008 at 01:52 PM
He seems to be involved in very charitable and peace minded organizations but I see no reason why he cant elaborate on Obamas trip to Pakistan and the allegations that his brother is a bundler for Obama.
Two different days, two different jackets. The one on top doesn’t have the welting across the upper chest near his collarbone. He likes black leather.
Seems to my untrained eye that the watch could be natural, the pants leg could have buckled right at that point and create the optical illusion that the watch is on top of the pants.
The odd sort of flesh colored object underneath and slightly to the left of Siddiq’s knee with the two intertwined hands could possibly be some other object - can’t think of what, though. If people were going to photoshop this picture (which they did when Siddiq was cut out of it entirely, right?) - they’d get rid of the intertwined hands.
Bright things tend to flair from a camera and that enlarges them and brings the items forward. I think it’s legit.