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This weeks Flu View Map is Devestating ... (Oct 3rd)
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Posted on 10/12/2009 7:11:44 AM PDT by Scythian

I follow this map every year, it usually doesn't even start up until Novemeber, they started it early this year, and it's worse than I've ever seen it, the peak is usually Jan/Feb for flu ...

See map HERE


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cdc; flu; h1n1; influenza; map; swineflu; tamiflu; vaccines
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1 posted on 10/12/2009 7:11:44 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

I thought I just heard that H1N1 virus was actually getting weaker????


2 posted on 10/12/2009 7:13:02 AM PDT by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: Scythian

Geographic spread, not severity.


3 posted on 10/12/2009 7:13:22 AM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: Scythian

This is all BULL SH**

The flu happens every damn year. They are over blowing this big time.

There is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY I AM GOING TO GET SUCKED INTO THIS. I WILL REFUSE TO GET A SHOT PERIOD!!!!


4 posted on 10/12/2009 7:14:42 AM PDT by waxer1 ( "The Bible is the rock on which our republic rests." -Andrew Jackson)
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To: MsLady
This map is total HORSESHIT. If you believe the CDC is doing anything for the public good, you are mistaken.

It, the organization, is rife with liberal opportunists and government shills who use their institution as an enforcement and behavior-adjustment arm. This is a GOVERNMENT organization, shilling a GOVERNMENT pandemic, hawking GOVERNMENT-produces vaccinations with their 'assurances' that nothing is wrong with the doses.

Take their shots and nose sprays at your peril!

5 posted on 10/12/2009 7:16:28 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Scythian

Simple answer: global cooling.


6 posted on 10/12/2009 7:16:45 AM PDT by frposty (I'm a simpleton)
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To: waxer1

NO IT ISN’T PAL, I KNOW, I’VE WATCHED THIS MAP FOR MANY YEARS, YOU’RE DEAD WRONG, THIS IS INCREDIBLE TO BE AT THIS LEVEL DURING ANY YEAR, AND LIKE I SAID, THEY DON’T EVEN START THIS MAP UNTIL NOVEMBER !!!!


7 posted on 10/12/2009 7:16:59 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

Devastating?

It isn’t killing as great a percentage as normal flu.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means...


8 posted on 10/12/2009 7:17:28 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Scythian
Wow-- you do know your flu patterns, as that chart is indeed for January '09. The web guys didn't update the linked graphic.

Here is the actual graphic for Oct 3:


9 posted on 10/12/2009 7:19:23 AM PDT by Egg (The nationalizations will continue until the free market recovers)
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To: Egg

My link is the correct link


10 posted on 10/12/2009 7:21:37 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

But you know, if there is a pandemic, then the need for universal healthcare becomes obvious, right?


11 posted on 10/12/2009 7:21:50 AM PDT by brownsfan (The screen name is a misnomer. Cleveland is STILL without a PRO team.)
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To: Egg

Somewhere in the neighborhood of 30% infection rate in some schools in Wyoming. Some of them may be closed soon.


12 posted on 10/12/2009 7:22:12 AM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
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To: Scythian

If they normally don’t start it until November, how do you know it hasn’t been this bad before?


13 posted on 10/12/2009 7:22:28 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Scythian

That map is about useless!


14 posted on 10/12/2009 7:24:30 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (3%)
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To: Scythian

“THIS IS INCREDIBLE TO BE AT THIS LEVEL DURING ANY YEAR, AND LIKE I SAID, THEY DON’T EVEN START THIS MAP UNTIL NOVEMBER !!!!”

QUIT SHOUTING!

And you’re sure none of the data has been “adjusted” by liberal activists? You don’t even have a shred of concern that the pandemic happens the exact time the healthcare takeover is at a critical point?


15 posted on 10/12/2009 7:24:42 AM PDT by brownsfan (The screen name is a misnomer. Cleveland is STILL without a PRO team.)
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To: Scythian

Just keep a bottle of hand sanitizer in your glove compartment, swear off nail biting, nose picking, etc., for the season, and continue with life as usual.


16 posted on 10/12/2009 7:25:06 AM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: MsLady

I heard that the regular flu is more of a hit — from our doctor.

This map only shows where not how bad. I refuse to be whupped up into a frothing state. First, we cannot control it anyway, beyond washing hands and so forth. Second, the GOV would like nothing better than to ‘help us’ in a crisis; so even if we FEEL like it’s a crisis, we should NEVER let on.


17 posted on 10/12/2009 7:25:32 AM PDT by bboop (Tar and feathers -- good back then, good now)
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To: Scythian
NO IT ISN’T PAL, I KNOW, I’VE WATCHED THIS MAP FOR MANY YEARS, YOU’RE DEAD WRONG, THIS IS INCREDIBLE TO BE AT THIS LEVEL DURING ANY YEAR, AND LIKE I SAID, THEY DON’T EVEN START THIS MAP UNTIL NOVEMBER !!!!

If they never started this until November than how would you or the CDC ever be able to say this is devastating since you have nothing to compare it to?

18 posted on 10/12/2009 7:25:38 AM PDT by JohnG45
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To: Scythian

I always thought Oct and Nov were worse for flu viruses. Colder weather in Dec and Jan kills more germs and bacteria


19 posted on 10/12/2009 7:26:22 AM PDT by MadelineZapeezda (Promoted by God to be a Mother!!!! Thanks, Susan)
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To: brownsfan

I don’t think anyone is seriously thinking there is a flu outbreak therefore we need government healthcare, nobody makes that connection in their mind, it just doesn’t fly ...


20 posted on 10/12/2009 7:26:29 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

Is this any different than any other fall once school has started and kids start sharing their colds and flus and bringing them home to share with their families?


21 posted on 10/12/2009 7:26:36 AM PDT by GBA
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To: waxer1

I am with you dude, even as I have my barf bucket handy... I got it very early this AM.

Bleck.

Still not getting the shot.


23 posted on 10/12/2009 7:27:13 AM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: MadelineZapeezda

Nope, Jan/Feb is peak flu season ...


24 posted on 10/12/2009 7:27:17 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian
NO IT ISN’T PAL, I KNOW, I’VE WATCHED THIS MAP FOR MANY YEARS, YOU’RE DEAD WRONG, THIS IS INCREDIBLE TO BE AT THIS LEVEL DURING ANY YEAR, AND LIKE I SAID, THEY DON’T EVEN START THIS MAP UNTIL NOVEMBER !!!!

Um... how'd it go in the Southern Hemisphere over this winter from June-September? Millions of dead? Hmmm?

The WHO reports less than 4,000 dead this year, total, from h1n1, including all those backward countries.

It's a crock.

25 posted on 10/12/2009 7:27:23 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: Egg

I had a student who was at a summer camp back east. Swine Flu swept through, he got it, camp was closed/ quarantined. And ... so what? Nothing. He is now home, was not hospitalized or anything, lived to tell.

I tell you — the libs are trying to make it a ‘Sky is Falling’ moment. DO NOT BE USED.


26 posted on 10/12/2009 7:27:45 AM PDT by bboop (Tar and feathers -- good back then, good now)
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To: Scythian
Anecdotally, we are having an early flu season here in Wisconsin. I beleive the illness is widespread at this time, though nobody I know has been diagnosed with H1N1. The people who have fallen ill are staying ill for two weeks or more.

So far, the only people I know who have been diagnosed with H1N1 were two step-children of a cousin, but that was back in the spring. They recovered well.

27 posted on 10/12/2009 7:27:51 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: Scythian

First off my name is not Pal. It all depends if you believe the government now doesn’t it?

I dont believe anything coming out of Washington Period. The flu happens.

If you want to buy into this fine. Good luck. Count me out.


28 posted on 10/12/2009 7:27:54 AM PDT by waxer1 ( "The Bible is the rock on which our republic rests." -Andrew Jackson)
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To: waxer1

CDC, NIH, NASA, Fannie & Freddie, FEMA, TSA,HSA plus other agencies are all make work projects filled with illiterates. NASA was ruined decades ago. I know people who do uni work with CDC and NIH. Total joke. NIH has a few good researchers but mega wastes of taxpayer money.


29 posted on 10/12/2009 7:28:34 AM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's health care?)
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To: waxer1
"This is all BULL SH**

The flu happens every damn year. They are over blowing this big time"

We just had a local flare-up here on Friday. A 14 year old suburban Chicago girl died from SWINE FLU All over the news-all day

Saturday I ran across this stuck in a corner of the online edition of our local paper...

""NAPERVILLE, Ill. (AP) — Suburban Chicago officials say a 14-year-old girl whose death has been linked to swine flu also had an undiagnosed heart condition.

Michelle Fahle, a Naperville North High School student, died Thursday.

The DuPage County coroner's office said Saturday that she had both the virus and a serious heart condition that 'strongly contributed' to her death.

The coroner's office says Fahle had a progressive defect in her heart that made her health vulnerable before she contracted the H1N1 virus.

Officials say more testing is necessary before a final cause of death is issued.

Fahle's death would bring the state's total swine flu deaths to 20. Since April, three swine flu deaths in the state have been in children younger than 19.""

There's defintely an agenda being worked on with this Pig Flu Pandemic .

30 posted on 10/12/2009 7:28:54 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: Scythian

We’re doomed?


31 posted on 10/12/2009 7:29:13 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Scythian

Wash your hands. Avoid crowds. Avoid public places such as shopping malls unless absolutely necessary. Avoid public transportation. Use those sanitizing wipes at the grocery store. Wash your hands.


32 posted on 10/12/2009 7:30:30 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Scythian

You might want to clarify that this map does not necessarily mean the flu being reported is H1N1.


33 posted on 10/12/2009 7:30:37 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: Frantzie
Precisely. I don't put stock in anything that comes out of there.

They are trying to create a major crisis with the help of the media. Gee, I wonder why?

34 posted on 10/12/2009 7:30:55 AM PDT by waxer1 ( "The Bible is the rock on which our republic rests." -Andrew Jackson)
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To: MsLady

I too have heard that it is weakening. I have heard the Obama girls are getting the vaccine, then hear they are not. No matter, anything that this administration tells me to do, I will have serious reservations. Usually, the children, teens and young adults have the better immune systems to fight off infections, and it is the older people who have the weakened immune systems. Also, knowing that Obama picks the likes of Holdren as science czar and others makes me very skeptical about everything that comes out of the white house.


35 posted on 10/12/2009 7:30:59 AM PDT by growingpains
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To: Scythian

I still have not met anyone who has had anything but a slight flu. Where is the devastating flu?


36 posted on 10/12/2009 7:31:51 AM PDT by jetson
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To: Scythian

Never let a crisis go to waste...


37 posted on 10/12/2009 7:32:25 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Scythian

Did you ever consider that the DATA BEHIND THE MAP THIS YEAR IS BOGUS?!


38 posted on 10/12/2009 7:32:51 AM PDT by MrDem (And this is a loyal lifelong Democrat saying this... Democrats for Cheney/Palin 2012)
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To: waxer1

Co-sign your post.


39 posted on 10/12/2009 7:33:17 AM PDT by Canedawg (FUBO)
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To: Scythian

Plus this year we’ve had RECORD EARLY COLD TEMPS. HELLO!


40 posted on 10/12/2009 7:34:07 AM PDT by MrDem (And this is a loyal lifelong Democrat saying this... Democrats for Cheney/Palin 2012)
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To: skimbell

More people die from the regular flu every year than the pig flu.

It is not the flu itself that kills you, it is the complications that can come from it.

Yes, people die from it. Heck, people die from the cold. all I am saying that this is a media and government driven pandemic if you can call it that.

I for one am not going to get a shot. I also told my daughter that besure to really think this through before she has the kids get the vaccine as well. it is her choice. I had four kids and never once did I ever have them get a flu shot.


41 posted on 10/12/2009 7:34:37 AM PDT by waxer1 ( "The Bible is the rock on which our republic rests." -Andrew Jackson)
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To: Canedawg

??????What?


42 posted on 10/12/2009 7:35:33 AM PDT by waxer1 ( "The Bible is the rock on which our republic rests." -Andrew Jackson)
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To: Scythian
try this to calm your fears:

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/clinicians/pdf/adultalgorithm.pdf

43 posted on 10/12/2009 7:36:15 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: Scythian

Not a very useful map at all. And the color scheme is weird, not good, human factors-wise.


44 posted on 10/12/2009 7:37:03 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Scythian
You may want to get someone to take a look at your keyboard - your Caps Lock key seem to be stuck.

Another suggestion, take your eyes off the map for a few minutes and look about you. Are there mass absences from your local school? How about where you work? In my area neither are the case.

45 posted on 10/12/2009 7:38:09 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: bvw

I agree... my cartography professor would have given that a poor grade.


46 posted on 10/12/2009 7:39:30 AM PDT by Sloth (For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of the International Olympic Committee.)
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To: Trust but Verify

Our pediatrician told us last week that they are assuming all cases are swine flu at this point. A friend was told in the ER that her son has Influenza Type A but that they have been forbidden by the Feds from testing to see if the flu is the swine flu unless the patient is admitted or dead. So our friend’s son could have the swine flu, but we don’t know. The ER doctor also told the friend that her son should have the flu shot and the swine flu vaccine as soon as he’s better.

Hubby’s coworker got his flu shot a little over a week ago and now has the flu. He claims it is the swine flu, but we know no one is testing for that unless a patient is admitted to the hospital or is dead.

Son’s teammate was admitted to the hospital last week due to the flu. No word on whether it is the swine flu or not. At least 6 players missed practice on Friday due to the flu.


47 posted on 10/12/2009 7:39:55 AM PDT by petitfour (Are you a Dead Fish American?)
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To: CharacterCounts

BUMP!


48 posted on 10/12/2009 7:40:11 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Obama Garden Club: Nothing but plants.)
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To: MsLady

The map is for influenza, I didn’t see any differation between reg flu and swine flu.

Question for the professionals out there: If you had breast cancer, with surgery and chemo coming up, would you get either of the flu shots? Inquiring minds want to know!


49 posted on 10/12/2009 7:40:35 AM PDT by blu (Graffiti the world, I've seen the writing on the wall...)
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To: brownsfan

The data coming out of CDC on the flu is useless. They don’t assign deaths as flu caused if the person with the flu died but also had an underlying health problem even though the flu pushed them into death and otherwide they would have lived fine.

They don’t test for it anymore. They test for type A and assume you have H1N1 if you test positive for the flu. They are using guesstimates based on postive testing for a different kind of flu virus and symptoms.

Flu is wide spread, but there is no telling with scientific accuracy the death rate nor the infection rate. Like the flu vaccine, the government is winging it. Medicine in the US used to be based on science.


50 posted on 10/12/2009 7:41:19 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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