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Keep America Safe; Cheney, Burlingame, Kristol launch effort to strengthen national security
911FamiliesForAmerica.org ^ | October 13, 2009 | Tim Sumner

Posted on 10/13/2009 2:22:59 AM PDT by Sergeant Tim

"Keep America Safe will make the case for an unapologetic approach to fighting terrorism around the world, for victory in the wars this country fights, for democracy and human rights, and for a strong American military that is needed in the dangerous world in which we live."

(See their lead video, aimed squarely at Obama, 'Rhetoric vs. Reality')


TOPICS: Announcements; Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; burlingame; kas; keepamericasafe; kristol; lizcheney; military; nationalsecurity; obama; wot
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1 posted on 10/13/2009 2:23:00 AM PDT by Sergeant Tim
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To: Sergeant Tim

Darn speakers aren’t working!!


2 posted on 10/13/2009 2:25:44 AM PDT by albie
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To: All
I scooped Politico (but they have more here).
3 posted on 10/13/2009 2:39:06 AM PDT by Sergeant Tim (In the War on Terror, there is no place to run from here.)
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To: STARWISE; bamahead; abb; LucyT; 444Flyer; MestaMachine; nutmeg; null and void

A late night ping: in case anyone can utilize a ping list, or find someone that would!


4 posted on 10/13/2009 2:51:09 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

Thanks for the ping.


5 posted on 10/13/2009 2:55:40 AM PDT by Sergeant Tim (In the War on Terror, there is no place to run from here.)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

“Its formation marks the end of an unusual partisan truce on America’s central national security challenge, Afghanistan, and after a presidential campaign in which Obama and Republican John McCain agreed on many security issues from Central Asia to Guantanamo Bay.”

Not so unusual when you realize that mcshame sold all of us out. Ever notice how worshipfully mac looks at the bam?
I got to hand it to Pubbie women all the way. They are the only real men we have standing these days.


6 posted on 10/13/2009 3:07:50 AM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1.)
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To: Sergeant Tim

More opponents of the White House, take note White House Communications Director Anita Dunn

Dunn said the White House would not be a “passive bystander” as opponents try to “tear down the president and his presidency.”

“We will push back,” she said.

The push back has included a blog post on WhiteHouse.gov in which the White House denounced what it called “Fox lies”

^
And what we don’t see, or is that seiu?


7 posted on 10/13/2009 3:09:07 AM PDT by Son House (OcarterCare by Congress will make all Americans = Wards of the State)
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To: sneakers; SoCalPol; sofaman; sofas dad; soloNYer; sono; Sparko; Springman; SRJeff; StarFan; ...

Ping!


8 posted on 10/13/2009 3:16:21 AM PDT by Sergeant Tim (In the War on Terror, there is no place to run from here.)
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To: Sergeant Tim

I liked it better when it was called the Project for a New American Century. Oh wait, no I didn’t.


9 posted on 10/13/2009 3:25:33 AM PDT by RAO1125 (Revolution's are for Marxists. We need a Constitutional Restoration)
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To: Sergeant Tim

Thanks for the ping!


10 posted on 10/13/2009 3:45:20 AM PDT by sneakers
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To: Son House
Dunn said the White House would not be a “passive bystander” as opponents try to “tear down the president and his presidency.”

Let's see a little more of that "seige mentality" that brought down another President who thought he would be king.

11 posted on 10/13/2009 4:45:35 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Tyrant Obama declares war on more American freedoms every day.)
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To: Sergeant Tim

I really like Liz Cheney and think she will play a big role in politics. I’d vote for her in a heart beat for any political position.


12 posted on 10/13/2009 5:47:30 AM PDT by kezzek
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To: kezzek

Sarah Palin/Liz Cheney or Liz Cheney/Sarah Palin 2010 either way would be a great ticket.


13 posted on 10/13/2009 6:02:22 AM PDT by Sergeant Tim (In the War on Terror, there is no place to run from here.)
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To: Rapscallion
“passive bystander” as opponents try to “tear down the president and his presidency.”


14 posted on 10/13/2009 6:43:24 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out; Sergeant Tim

15 posted on 10/13/2009 6:51:00 AM PDT by LUV W (2010 is Conservatives' to win....or lose. So....LET'S WIN!!)
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To: Son House

“More opponents of the White House, take note White House Communications Director Anita Dunn

Dunn said the White House would not be a “passive bystander” as opponents try to “tear down the president and his presidency.”

“We will push back,” she said.

The push back has included a blog post on WhiteHouse.gov in which the White House denounced what it called “Fox lies”

Hey Anita, pull my finger.

Signed, D. Cheney


16 posted on 10/13/2009 7:14:01 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: Sergeant Tim

Kristol wants the police the world and spread Wilsonian democracy. “Keeping America Safe” is just a slogan for the sheeple.


17 posted on 10/13/2009 7:21:02 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Sergeant Tim

How dare they try to keep the American people safe!!


18 posted on 10/13/2009 7:30:23 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their government funding!)
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To: Let's Roll

...by keeping the borders open and pending our defense capital on foreign nations. Should’ve been called “Project for a New Iraqi Century.”


19 posted on 10/13/2009 8:23:18 AM PDT by RAO1125 (Revolution's are for Marxists. We need a Constitutional Restoration)
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To: Sergeant Tim

I’m a Palin fan, but I think Liz Cheney is a much wiser choice. Liberals hate her because of her name.


20 posted on 10/13/2009 8:25:16 AM PDT by kezzek
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To: MestaMachine

Like Palin? ;-) I love her guts, but don’t understand the mccain factor. They seem like opposites. If we wouldn’t have another perot fiasco, I’d vote 3rd party.

It did feel good to know that almost 2/3 of voters did not vote for clinton. And all criticism was a vast right wing conspiracy.. (Smirk) it wasn’t because of the fact that 2/3’s of voters didn’t want him as president. Clinton News Network really stood by its man well. I don’t think they ever explained that it wasn’t a vrwc, and that it was possible that 2/3’s of voters were not satisfied with clinton as a choice!

Now I just want conservatives in repubs. What do we do if there are no conservatives to vote for?


21 posted on 10/13/2009 8:35:27 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: Sergeant Tim

You’re welcome.


22 posted on 10/13/2009 8:37:25 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; Pablo Mac; ...

Thank God for Americans who see
the dangers and step up!


23 posted on 10/13/2009 8:46:11 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: kezzek

Liz is intelligent, brilliant, well spoken, knowlegeable and loves her country and wants to do what is right for her country. She has learned at the feet of a genius. She will play a role in the future and thank God for that.


24 posted on 10/13/2009 8:48:47 AM PDT by cubreporter (.)
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To: cubreporter
at the feet of a genius.

TWO Geniuses! Anyone remember Lynne on Crossfire with Bob Beckel? Every week, she wiped him out!

25 posted on 10/13/2009 8:55:44 AM PDT by Ooh-Ah
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To: Sergeant Tim

This may be of interest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdtqtfXdR-c


26 posted on 10/13/2009 9:02:27 AM PDT by sunny48
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To: MestaMachine
"...Not so unusual when you realize that mcshame sold all of us out. Ever notice how worshipfully mac looks at the bam?.."

This is what clenched it for me. When I knew without a doubt that McCain had thrown the fight.

The Alfred E. Smith dinner, October 2008.

McCain "...appeared at ease in a room packed with Democrats."

From "Obama and McCain pal around at Catholic fundraiser"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/17/obama-mccain-new-york-al-smith-dinner

27 posted on 10/13/2009 9:16:13 AM PDT by 444Flyer ("Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."--Mignon McLaughlin)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

We need a lefty 3rd party.


28 posted on 10/13/2009 9:57:06 AM PDT by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; STARWISE; 444Flyer; MestaMachine

“Now I just want conservatives in repubs. What do we do if there are no conservatives to vote for?”

“Thank God for Americans who see
the dangers and step up!”

We (the people) need to keep putting pressure on Senators & Congressmen (our public servants) to vocally express the fact that they have a clue as to what the BHO administration is doing -—

How long are these Repubs going to remain silent and let Beck, Limbaugh, Sowell, etc., and a few Sen & Reps hang out there as if they are the “lunatic fringe”?

It has become too obvious. The facts are out there. It’s like the Townhall Meetings. Sen & Reps came with “talking points” & the citizens came with the BILL and read it to them.

At the very least, it is now obvious that the BHO Adm plots an unConstitutional power grab, and the Repubs in Congress act like their hands are tied. Step up & Speak up! They & we should also be challenging the moderate Dems (who may, by this time, be beginning to squirm a little): “Is THIS what you voted for?”

People like McCain & Specter have already made it clear where they stand & they are a waste of time. They will join the bandwagon at the very last possible minute & they should be made to pay for it with removal from office.

“Dunn said the White House would not be a “passive bystander” as opponents try to “tear down the president and his presidency. “
We will push back,” she said.

The American people will not be passive bystanders while the American-hating White House and the collaborating Democrat Corruptocracy tear down our Constitutional Republic.


29 posted on 10/13/2009 10:11:24 AM PDT by thouworm
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To: Sergeant Tim; thouworm

BTTT


30 posted on 10/13/2009 10:19:48 AM PDT by 444Flyer ("Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."--Mignon McLaughlin)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Oh yes...I know that. Mrs. Cheney is awesome as well. However I wasn’t leaving her out. I was just referring to Vice President, Dick Cheney. I love the whole family. They have more intelligence and common sense than any other idiot politician although they live in Wyoming.


31 posted on 10/13/2009 11:35:24 AM PDT by cubreporter (.)
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To: Sergeant Tim

Does this mean more money for Dick Cheney’s tax evading enterprise(s)?


32 posted on 10/13/2009 11:38:54 AM PDT by unspun (PRAY & WORK FOR FREEDOM - investigatingobama.blogspot.com)
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To: Son House
"More opponents of the White House"

They are NeoCons. Don't you remember Bush replacing the NeoCons with Realists in 2006? Don't you remember the Iraq Study Group, a group of Realists? Don't you remember Bush naming Realist Bob Gates as Sec of Defense?

Does it bother you that Obama has followed the Realist Doctrine?

33 posted on 10/13/2009 11:39:06 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: LUV W

No.

I don’t miss the president of Henry Paulson and Ben Bernanke.

No.


34 posted on 10/13/2009 11:40:00 AM PDT by unspun (PRAY & WORK FOR FREEDOM - investigatingobama.blogspot.com)
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To: Captain Kirk

You just miss watching Americans jumping from 80 stories to their death.
Yup, better to save the economy than save lives and America.
They don’t make pockets in shrouds.


35 posted on 10/13/2009 11:59:52 AM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: LUV W

In a word

NO.


36 posted on 10/13/2009 12:02:22 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (Sarah Palin - Supports a "path to citizenship" for illegal aliens. "path to citizenship" IS AMNESTY)
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To: Sergeant Tim

What a Great idea getting the organization “KeepAmericaSafe”
up and a focus point for citizens who believe in Freedom and saving America. Also a wonderful educational and resurce site.

Elizabeth Cheney, Debra Burlingame and William Kristol, all knowledgeable and experienced veterans in the
fight against the IslamOfascists


37 posted on 10/13/2009 12:23:37 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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You just miss watching Americans jumping from 80 stories to their death.

No, but apparently you weren't watching. Who killed those Americans? It was not Iraqi Arabs or Pashtuns. It was Sunni Arabs from those countries in the Middle East which had the closest ties to the U.S. including Saudi Arabia and Egypt. If there was ever an indictment of a Wilsonian foreign policy, it was what happened on 9-11.

38 posted on 10/13/2009 12:48:23 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Captain Kirk

So you probably didn’t think we shouuld have fought against Hitler because he wasn’t the one who bombed Pearl Harbor.


39 posted on 10/13/2009 12:51:02 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: SoCalPol
So you probably didn’t think we shouuld have fought against Hitler because he wasn’t the one who bombed Pearl Harbor

No....We had no choice after he declared war. We also would have no choice but to fight if Mao and Stalin (even greater mass murderers than Hitler) had declared war on us as well.

40 posted on 10/13/2009 1:25:36 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Captain Kirk

They are all IslamOfascists and delcared war on America.
The IslamOfascists who flew into the Pentagon were living
6 miles from me here in San Diego


41 posted on 10/13/2009 1:33:08 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Sergeant Tim

Neil Cavuto on FOX just had on Debra Burlingame re KAS
What a great person.


42 posted on 10/13/2009 1:35:29 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: RAO1125
...by keeping the borders open

Reality check time...

Tell me, if the borders are "open," how are coyotes (people smugglers working the southern border) managing to charge up to three or four thousand dollars per person per crossing?

Why on earth would poor Mexicans (and even poorer El Salvadorans, Guatemalans, etc) pay such steep prices when -- since the borders are supposedly "open" -- they could easily walk across for free?

The fact is that, even if most sufficiently determined illegals can get across eventually, to do so is more difficult/dangerous/time consuming/expensive than ever. The fact is that since the 1980's (the last time the borders could be reasonably described as "open") border security has become tighter and tighter almost every year. Even during the Clinton years border control resources were substantially increased, and since 9-11 even more so. The fact is our borders have never been more secure, at any time in our history, than they are right now.

Can we increase border security even more? Sure we can. But I suspect we've already passed the point of diminishing returns.

There are also unintended consequences of tight borders which we are already dealing with. During the 80's nearly all Hispanic illegals were working age males, and nearly all left their dependents behind. Since it was easy and cheap to cross the border, this made sense: Do seasonal work in construction or agriculture, leave the family at home to tend the farm, and where the cost of living was less, then spend the winter with them back in Mexico.

Now that crossing the border is difficult, expensive and less certain, this pattern of "circularity" (crossing the border in both directions) has greatly decreased. Those who come are far more likely to stay permanently, year round, far more likely to bring their dependents, and far more likely to compete with legal Americans for nonseasonal jobs, and more likely to turn to crime if jobs are not available.

We could make much better progress by working the demand side (the illegal labor market -- either by getting tougher on those employing illegals and/or developing a more accessible temporary work program) and by devoting more resources to tightening up visa programs -- than by further incremental increases in border security.

Just one FReeper's opinion. But it is certain that we cannot effectively address the issues of borders and illegals if we adopt false facts, and that is exactly what the "open borders" mantra is. It simply isn't true. If you want to deal with the problems, deal with the actual problems, not made up ones.

43 posted on 10/13/2009 2:40:05 PM PDT by Stultis (Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia; Democrats always opposed waterboarding as torture)
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To: Captain Kirk
It was Sunni Arabs from those countries in the Middle East which had the closest ties to the U.S. including Saudi Arabia and Egypt. If there was ever an indictment of a Wilsonian foreign policy, it was what happened on 9-11.

Um, wait a minute... How is that an indictment of "a [supposed] Wilsonian foreign policy"?

You yourself point out our attackers were from Saudi Arabia and Egypt. But those are exactly the places were we did NOT follow the advice of the e-vile and dastardly "neocons," and determinedly promote democracy; but instead followed the dictates of the contrasting foreign policy "realism" which you advocate, and tolerated or supported authoritarian regimes.

44 posted on 10/13/2009 2:48:41 PM PDT by Stultis (Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia; Democrats always opposed waterboarding as torture)
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To: Stultis
Egypt and Saudi Arabia did not have democracy but comparatively speaking their young people (especially the hijackers) had more much exposure to Western democratic and market institutions than other parts of the Arab world. I agree, however, that this wasn't the main factor. They didn't hate primarily because we are free but because we are "over there" in a more direct sense. It is no coicidence that hijackers came from those countries which had U.S. presence (including troops).

I do not advocate the amoral version of realism you lay out. I advocate a policy of national defense and non-interventionism.

45 posted on 10/13/2009 4:06:46 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

Defining American Conservatism
MSMB | October 13, 2009 | Rob W. Case
Posted on 10/13/2009 12:59:38 AM PDT by Making_Sense [Rob W. Case]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2361140/posts


46 posted on 10/13/2009 5:40:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Captain Kirk
I do not advocate the amoral version of realism you lay out. I advocate a policy of national defense and non-interventionism.

Fine. You can advocate "non-interventionism." No harm, since as the world's one true conservative, you'll never have to deal with the consequences.

But, certainly, in theory (thank God) you would advocate terminating America's single largest and most costly foreign intervention, and one of the longest lived. Right?

It's not much talked about, but certainly our naval policing of the global sea lanes is our greatest foreign intervention. Heck, we built, and continuously maintain, an entire naval fleet, just for the purpose of patrolling only one of the most crucial regions: the Persian Gulf.

Of course if we ceased this intervention, there is at least a fair chance, if not a strong probability, that some regional squabble gone out control would cut off a significant fraction of global oil supplies, sparking a global depression, and eating up the billions of dollars we had been saving annually on maintenance of the Fifth Fleet in a matter of weeks.

But that's O.K. because we'd be ideologically pure non-interventionists. Right?

Of course the examples could be multiplied endlessly. For instance we intervened early in the Bush presidency when Pakistan and India were on the verge of war. We strongly pressured both to sit down and talk. But it would have been better, apparently, to mind our business and risk nuclear war.

By the same token we should end our interventions in Pakistan on principle, even though they have proven, at least by readily discernible increments, successful in turning the Pakistani government and armed forces against Islamists they were previously sponsoring and arming. Granted the result may be nuclear arms falling into the hands of Islamic terrorists, but better that than compromising the non-interventionist principle. Right?

47 posted on 10/13/2009 6:40:28 PM PDT by Stultis (Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia; Democrats always opposed waterboarding as torture)
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To: LUV W

Yep! Big time!


48 posted on 10/13/2009 8:31:33 PM PDT by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: Just A Nobody

Me, too!


49 posted on 10/13/2009 8:36:10 PM PDT by LUV W (2010 is Conservatives' to win....or lose. So....LET'S WIN!!)
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To: Stultis

WOW! You are on a roll tonight! Thanks for the great job!


50 posted on 10/13/2009 8:37:40 PM PDT by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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