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New Russian Fighter Jet (You Tube Video)
You Tube ^ | August 10, 2009

Posted on 10/16/2009 1:11:02 PM PDT by BulletBobCo

Russia now claims to have the #1 fighter plane in the world... SU-30- Vectored Thrust with Canards...

As you watch this airplane, look at the canards moving along side of, and just below the canopy rail.

The "canards" are the small wings forward of the main wings. The smoke and contrails provide a sense of the actual flight path, sometimes in reverse direction. This video is of an in-flight demonstration flown by the Russian's-30MK fighter aircraft.

You will not believe what you are about to see. The fighter can stall from high speed, stopping forward motion in seconds. (full stall). Then it demonstrates an ability to descend tail first without causing a compressor stall. It can also recover from a flat spin in less than a minute. These maneuver capabilities don't exist in any other aircraft in the world today. Take a look at the video with the sound up. This aircraft is of concern to U.S. and NATO planners. We don't know which nations will soon be flying the SU-30MK; hopefully China isn't one of them...

Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Note: Friends worked with advanced aircraft flight control systems and concepts for many years as an extension of stability control and means of control. Canards and vectored thrust were among many concepts examined to extend our fighter aircraft performance. Neither our current or next generation aircraft now poised for funding & production can in any way match the performance of this Russian aircraft. NOW FLYING in any near combat situation.

Somehow the bankrupt Russian aircraft industry has out produced our complex politically tainted aerospace industry with this technology marvel. Scratch any ideas of close in air-to-air combat with this aircraft in the


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1 posted on 10/16/2009 1:11:05 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: BulletBobCo

uh.. they can maintain them right?


2 posted on 10/16/2009 1:14:48 PM PDT by Mmogamer (<This space for lease>)
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To: BulletBobCo

Pretty impressive stuff- for an airshow. Now, let’s see it used in a supersonic engagement....

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3 posted on 10/16/2009 1:15:29 PM PDT by hoosier hick (Note to RINOs: We need a choice, not an echo....Barry Goldwater)
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To: BulletBobCo
Stealthy, not so much.
4 posted on 10/16/2009 1:16:40 PM PDT by Lazamataz (DEFINITION: rac-ist (rA'sis't) 1. Anyone who disagrees with a liberal about any topic.)
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To: BulletBobCo

Sure smokes alot...must burn a lot of oil. LOL


5 posted on 10/16/2009 1:16:51 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: BulletBobCo

Pretty impressive, but what’s the range on this fighter, compared to an F-22 or F-35?


6 posted on 10/16/2009 1:18:42 PM PDT by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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To: Mmogamer

Very nice moves but about as stealthy as a brick shite house.

Raptor bait.


7 posted on 10/16/2009 1:20:04 PM PDT by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON and moderates make me PUKE!!!")
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To: BulletBobCo

“Scratch any ideas of close in air-to-air combat...”
We already did. That’s why we now have over the horizon targeting systems.


8 posted on 10/16/2009 1:20:27 PM PDT by astyanax (Liberalism: Logic's retarded cousin.)
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To: BulletBobCo

Ok the obvious ?. Where is that smoke coming from? Is this just for the Demo or does this plane have the ability to emit toxins. You know like biological warfare???????


9 posted on 10/16/2009 1:20:58 PM PDT by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: WKUHilltopper

Ditto that...with all that pollution shouldn’t Al Gore or some of the other ecoweirds be jumping up and down with real concern?


10 posted on 10/16/2009 1:22:10 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: bamahead

bookmark


11 posted on 10/16/2009 1:22:14 PM PDT by bamahead (Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
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To: BulletBobCo

Saw an F-22 demo a couple years ago. Did the same maneuvers.


12 posted on 10/16/2009 1:22:20 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: hoosier hick

I have one question: Why are we even considering shooting at our fellow communists, now that we are a fully communist nation?


13 posted on 10/16/2009 1:22:37 PM PDT by Lazamataz (DEFINITION: rac-ist (rA'sis't) 1. Anyone who disagrees with a liberal about any topic.)
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To: BulletBobCo

The plane has been out for 10 years.

I doubt the Russians are just now caliming the #1 title.

Yes, the Chicoms have it.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/su-30mk.htm


14 posted on 10/16/2009 1:23:15 PM PDT by ejonesie22
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To: BulletBobCo

Yep.
Nothing like stopping and hovering in the middle of a dogfight.


15 posted on 10/16/2009 1:23:20 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: WKUHilltopper
Sure smokes alot...must burn a lot of oil. LOL

It's one of those new low eco-impact hybrid jets. ;-)

16 posted on 10/16/2009 1:23:26 PM PDT by rhombus
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To: Lazamataz
I have one question: Why are we even considering shooting at our fellow communists, now that we are a fully communist nation?

Because the Russians have been backsliding into mere organized crime. It's up to us to bring them back into the socialist line. ;-)

17 posted on 10/16/2009 1:25:29 PM PDT by rhombus
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To: Mr. Jazzy

“Very nice moves but about as stealthy as a brick shite house.”

Well it does make a HUGE target for a S to A missle!


18 posted on 10/16/2009 1:25:42 PM PDT by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: Marty62

It’s just for the demo at the air show, so the spectators can judge the flight path more accurately.


19 posted on 10/16/2009 1:26:20 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: BulletBobCo

Meanwhile Comrade 0bama has cancelled the F-22.


20 posted on 10/16/2009 1:27:13 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (FUBO - When 0bama Fails, Freedom Prevails!)
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To: BulletBobCo

Meanwhile Comrade 0bama has cancelled the F-22.


21 posted on 10/16/2009 1:27:21 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (FUBO - When 0bama Fails, Freedom Prevails!)
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To: SJSAMPLE
Nothing like stopping and hovering in the middle of a dogfight.
Yup, perfect for taking out enemy hot air balloons.
22 posted on 10/16/2009 1:27:25 PM PDT by astyanax (Liberalism: Logic's retarded cousin.)
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To: Lazamataz

I imagine Iran wants to buy a bunch.


23 posted on 10/16/2009 1:27:29 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: rhombus
Sure smokes alot...must burn a lot of oil. LOL

It's one of those new low eco-impact hybrid jets. ;-)

No, it's just developed by British-Leyland.

24 posted on 10/16/2009 1:27:34 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: BulletBobCo

ping for home view


25 posted on 10/16/2009 1:28:17 PM PDT by unkus
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To: BulletBobCo

I would be willing to wager that a Raptor can do likewise....without canards if allowed to.


26 posted on 10/16/2009 1:28:39 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Lazamataz

Yeah I was going to say it looks like it would have the radar signature comparable to a barn!


27 posted on 10/16/2009 1:30:23 PM PDT by cups
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To: BulletBobCo

That thing’s got a zero turning radius which would be quite the advantage in a WWII style dogfight. People have been saying the dogfight is dead since the time the F4 was introduced, yet they still occur.


28 posted on 10/16/2009 1:30:41 PM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: al_c
No, it's just developed by British-Leyland.

That just means that when you pull the switch to fire missiles the wipers come on so you have to turn on the radio to shoot down the enemy.

Unless the headlights are on then all bets are off.

29 posted on 10/16/2009 1:31:00 PM PDT by ejonesie22
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To: BulletBobCo

Was that a low altitude flat spin recovery???


30 posted on 10/16/2009 1:31:15 PM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: BulletBobCo

http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/su_30mk/


31 posted on 10/16/2009 1:31:28 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: All


And uses the finest quality rubber bands....
32 posted on 10/16/2009 1:32:01 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: BulletBobCo

India has them.


33 posted on 10/16/2009 1:32:10 PM PDT by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: BulletBobCo
Big deal.

Let's see him do all that hover, roll-over, fly-backwards crap at mach 2.

34 posted on 10/16/2009 1:33:28 PM PDT by red-dawg (If you don't like the constitution, move to a country with one you like. LEAVE OURS ALONE.)
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To: Sergio

from their past performances I would estimate the range of this plane as one airshow.


35 posted on 10/16/2009 1:35:56 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: BulletBobCo

And if my grandmother had wheels, she’d be a wagon.


36 posted on 10/16/2009 1:36:40 PM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: Hacklehead

Isn’t turn RATE more important than turn radius?

“Speed is life” and all that.


37 posted on 10/16/2009 1:37:19 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: BulletBobCo

Pinged for home view. Sounds like the same stuff the SU-35 can do.


38 posted on 10/16/2009 1:37:35 PM PDT by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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To: BulletBobCo

Attention American and Israeli pilot, “Aim for the Canards”


39 posted on 10/16/2009 1:37:49 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: BulletBobCo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bryH3eDA5F8


40 posted on 10/16/2009 1:39:09 PM PDT by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: BulletBobCo

This thing is still no match for the F-22.....UH OH, somebody better tell his majesty.

Of course, if probably would be hard to build a block of F-15’s with canards and thrust vectoring.


41 posted on 10/16/2009 1:41:00 PM PDT by Carbonsteel
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To: BulletBobCo

At first glance I thought I was looking at a F-111B

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Dynamics_F-111


42 posted on 10/16/2009 1:41:39 PM PDT by sleddogs
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To: BulletBobCo

All very pretty. But it won’t give him one more second of life when an FA-18 Super Hornet acquires him and locks a Phoenix missile on his arse from 40 miles away.


43 posted on 10/16/2009 1:42:51 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.)
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To: Carbonsteel

Nope.
F-15 “Active”.
Been done over a decade ago, IIRC.


44 posted on 10/16/2009 1:42:55 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: astyanax; SJSAMPLE

The ‘hover’ is supposed to show the power of the engines. notice it doesn’t really hover. It cannot maintain its altitude once it loses its forward momentum.


45 posted on 10/16/2009 1:44:01 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Mmogamer
Screw Russia... America has some TS stuff that can kick their ass...
46 posted on 10/16/2009 1:47:30 PM PDT by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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To: BulletBobCo

Looks strangely simular to the SU-29 Super Flanker. It probably is one with canards grafted on. on the upside it looks pretty fancy in flight, downside I’ve read it’s radar signature is about the size of Baltimore. Good luck fighting in one of those coffins.


47 posted on 10/16/2009 1:48:32 PM PDT by blastdad51 (Typical middle-aged white patriot.)
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To: BulletBobCo; All
Although an impressive airshow, all I saw was a lot of stalls and attitude changes; not changes in flight direction. IOW pretty useless for combat situations

Contrast the F-22 performance at the Paris show a year or perhaps two ago; where the plane, incredibly, did a virtual 180 degree change in attitude AND direction!!

I don't know who claimed this Russian modification was best in the world and that we didn't have anything like it, but he's ignorant!

48 posted on 10/16/2009 1:51:08 PM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( The Constitution needs No interpreting, only APPLICATION!)
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To: BulletBobCo

Low speed maneuvers haven’t meant anything for 30 or 40 years. Over the horizon target acquisition, multiple target management, raw bleeping speed and stealth capabilities. Those matter.


49 posted on 10/16/2009 1:51:12 PM PDT by texmexis best
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To: BulletBobCo

Looks strangely simular to the SU-29 Super Flanker. It probably is one with canards grafted on. on the upside it looks pretty fancy in flight, downside I’ve read it’s radar signature is about the size of Baltimore. Good luck fighting in one of those coffins.


50 posted on 10/16/2009 1:51:18 PM PDT by blastdad51 (Typical middle-aged white patriot.)
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