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To: ejonesie22

And where’s the disagreement? I think it is pretty factual and think there is nothing wrong with those points.

However, I would emphasize that Mormons are henotheistic just like Jews of the Old Testament were and similiarly to a significant portion of early Christians before the Trinity doctrine. In henotheism there is only one God who leads. Even Christ submitted his will unto the Father; I know I know the argument of the Trinity, but as you can see the scriptures be shown to support that point of view.

Furthermore, apostheism (spelling?) or exaltation is found in other sects, such as Greek Orthodox for example. So I don’t think there is anything wrong with that point of view and I don’t disagree.


848 posted on 10/30/2009 9:46:49 AM PDT by nowandlater
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To: nowandlater
Jews were henotheistic? I challenge you to say that to a jew.
851 posted on 10/30/2009 9:53:53 AM PDT by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: nowandlater
I was Greek Orthodox, still attend from time to time despite being a member of a Methodist Church for personal reason. One never became the equal of God in the Orthodox Tradition, most plainly as evidenced by its adherence to the true and factual truine nature of our Lord. Exaltation is only something used in the strictest definition in it means to hold something holy, not to become God. The Orthodox Exalt the Cross during the feast of the cross for example.

The relationship of exaltation as becoming god belongs solely to the LDS.

As far as the rest, God stated he was the one and only.

The fact that people wanted to drag their old pagan and other gods along for the ride into Christianity was dismissed early on. Indeed such erroneous teachings was what inspired Constantine to bring together the Christian leadership at Nicea.

The Jews also dismissed such cultural and primitive artifacts of their religion thousands of years ago as the nature of God and his laws were better understood.

Furthermore those who use henotheism to explain the concept of God and Christ being different persons have been forced to ignore the very plain relationship made evident in the the OT and NT that in the beginning was the Word and the word WAS God and that when Christ came he was the Word made flesh. No indication of any separation there. The Word did not make Christ, the word WAS Christ.

However I do appreciate your honesty, you have been the first to not avoid the issue.

853 posted on 10/30/2009 10:12:26 AM PDT by ejonesie22
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To: nowandlater; ejonesie22
However, I would emphasize that Mormons are henotheistic just like Jews of the Old Testament were. . .

Now I thought you were here to present things "honestly"? Now you start claiming this tripe? Judaism is monotheistic - period. Ask God Himself -

Isa 43:10* Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

Pretty exclusive and clear. There are no other god - period.

Even Christ submitted his will unto the Father; I know I know the argument of the Trinity, but as you can see the scriptures be shown to support that point of view.

Sorry, your 'say so' that the scriptures show otherwise don't wash here. Try to form a cognizant argument please.

858 posted on 10/30/2009 11:27:15 AM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: nowandlater
In henotheism there is only one God who leads.

In MORMONism; there is ONE god who happens to reside in TWO physical bodies.

Neat trick...

869 posted on 10/30/2009 2:29:40 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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