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Gore Gone Wild: Predicts 220 Foot Sea Level Rise in 10 years
americanthinker.com ^ | Oct. 30, 2009 | Marc Sheppard

Posted on 10/30/2009 7:26:28 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

The scariest story told this Halloween week had nothing to do with ghosts, goblins, or zombies, though it was certainly dripping with huge gobs of Gore. In fact -- the most terrifying words screeched in the past seven days came from the master of environmental horror himself.

According to Arab Internet services company Maktoob.com, our favorite greenhouse gasbag spent Tuesday afternoon outlining the reasons why attendees of the Leaders in Dubai Business Forum must change their wicked gas-guzzling ways:

“The North Pole ice cap is 40 percent gone already and could be completely and totally gone in the winter months in the next 5 to 10 years.”

Such thaw, cautioned Gore, “could increase sea levels by 67 metres” and that “each one metre of sea level rise (SLR) is associated with 100 million climate refugees in the world.” That’s up a full 47 meters from the already horrifying predictions he’s made previously.

Incidentally, a climate refugee (or “environmentally induced migrant” as the UN would prefer we refer to them) is a person forced to move to a new country by global warming related environmental disasters. Where the whacky climate refugees per meter SLR figure came from is anybody’s guess.

Anyway, if my math is correct, the 2007 Nobel laureate effectively predicted that by 2020, the oceans could rise 220 feet and 6,700,000,000 people will be forced to wander the planet in search of a less soggy domicile.

And the journey won’t be easy, what with much of the planet underwater and its entire population -- which Gore’s 6.7 billion amounts to -- vying for whatever dry land remains available.

But before we pack our tents, inflatable rafts, and foreign-language dictionaries, let’s take a closer look at the green Stephen King’s figures.

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To: Free ThinkerNY
Pure genius!


101 posted on 10/31/2009 10:22:17 AM PDT by jslade (People that are easily offended OFFEND ME!)
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To: LukeL
Archimedes presents an oversimplification, which is why it's important to consult earth scientists, not physicists.

Archimedes’ findings involved buoyancy and submerged/partially submerged objects or materials in isostatic equilibrium...which is irrelevant to the ice cap on Greenland, for example, on this timescale (the earth's crust is still rebounding from the last glacial retreat—definitely a slower timescale). Greenland's melting would add water to raise sea level, for example, and it would take dozens of millennia to make the physics argument relevant—not because the physics is wrong, but because they omit the viscosity factor and make an unwarranted assumption of a static earth backdrop.

In general, geologists are far more skeptical than physicists.

102 posted on 10/31/2009 11:40:22 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Ummmm ... I thought the North Pole ice cap was on water?

Mr.Gore ... have you forgotten about Archimedes and the bath tub?


103 posted on 10/31/2009 11:44:47 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

When you start rising about rising seas (and your own ability to lower them) you start seriously treading into self-deification territory. Consciously, or sub-consciously, these idiots are trying to invoke the trope of the Flood, with perhaps a side-helping of Moses at the Red Sea. And to gain attention the stories have to become more and more grandiose. I agree with all who’ve said that he should be in a home for the criminally insane.


104 posted on 10/31/2009 11:53:07 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: LukeL
Also it would take a lot of energy to melt all the ice in Greenland.

Not to mention creating millions of new acres of farmland.

105 posted on 10/31/2009 12:01:54 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
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To: milwguy
Is Kevin Costner and Waterworld at the Blockbuster Video?

The movie/documentary that Al needs to see if "The Little Ice Age".

106 posted on 10/31/2009 12:03:34 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
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To: blackbart.223
And if a waiter comes over and pours water into your glass, like water melting off Greenland, it magicallt can't overflow. Obviously, only an idiot doesn't believe in such magic!

And obviously normal people drink saltwater with freshwater ice cubes, else the analogy would be false and not be applicable to the actual world's conditions. Only a worse-than-idiotr would think so, right?



Sorry, but incorrect claims by both sides are not helping.

107 posted on 10/31/2009 12:34:13 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Awesome! Washington DC flooded and the politicians going hat-in-hand to previously dismissed “fly-over country” looking a new home. HA-ha!


108 posted on 10/31/2009 12:35:54 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: devolve
[But Copemhagen is ahead -The global welfare scheme]

Maybe the Great Pumpkin will arise tonight and come get Obama!


109 posted on 10/31/2009 6:12:48 PM PDT by potlatch (Actions Speak Louder Than Words)
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To: Gondring
"And if a waiter comes over and pours water into your glass, like water melting off Greenland, it magicallt can't overflow. Obviously, only an idiot doesn't believe in such magic! And obviously normal people drink saltwater with freshwater ice cubes, else the analogy would be false and not be applicable to the actual world's conditions. Only a worse-than-idiotr would think so, right?

Get back to me when your spelling and diction improves.

110 posted on 10/31/2009 7:47:38 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Covenantor
Lol, yes that sounds very possible. Hopefully the family is a little smarter than him and will proceed with your idea! :)
111 posted on 10/31/2009 10:57:37 PM PDT by Rickcbw
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To: Dixie Yooper

I believe it does, yes!


112 posted on 10/31/2009 10:58:46 PM PDT by Rickcbw
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To: blackbart.223
Get back to me when your spelling and diction improves.

And you can get back to me when your science improves.

Cheers!

113 posted on 11/01/2009 8:28:06 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring
"And you can get back to me when your science improves."

If you choose to believe in Al Gore and The Tooth Fairy then there is nothing much I can say to you. Man made "Global warming" is a hoax concocted by hucksters looking to tap into our wallets and control our lives.

114 posted on 11/01/2009 10:01:20 AM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: blackbart.223

Where did I ever say I believe Algore?

I am not a doctor...you should go see one for your overactive patellar reflex...that kneejerk is making you jump to conclusions.

BTW, climate change and global warming were discussed long before Algore. I suppose you believe he invented the Internet, too. Perhaps you meant that the hucksters latched on to the science.


115 posted on 11/01/2009 10:17:46 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring
"BTW, climate change and global warming were discussed long before Algore."

Let me see. In the seventies we were all going to freeze to death. I'm old enough to remember that one. The solution always comes from some government slug who's motives I always question. Do you think that the improvements made by man are going to melt the ice in Greenland? If you do then you sir are an idiot. Or at least niave.

116 posted on 11/01/2009 2:43:44 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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117 posted on 11/02/2009 10:17:29 AM PST by potlatch (Actions Speak Louder Than Words)
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To: potlatch; ntnychik

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LOL!

XHD potlatch (Extra Heavy Duty)

(sort of like an Extremely Super Model)

Nice details on this one too -

We have a whole new series of JOKER .gifs evolving now!


118 posted on 11/02/2009 1:15:01 PM PST by devolve ( . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . "Hey - Know what? I*d like a surf & turf!" . . . . . . . . . . .)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This could happen if Gore went surfing.


119 posted on 11/02/2009 1:21:52 PM PST by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: devolve

He joined “Smashing Pumpkins”, lol.
I made the ‘strings’ longer, might be good for other things if cropped now.


120 posted on 11/02/2009 3:02:45 PM PST by potlatch (Actions Speak Louder Than Words)
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To: potlatch

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Yes - Strings longer and straighter - Excellent

Mucho easier for cropping and adapting as you just said

- Bad Year blimp - etc.

LOL!


121 posted on 11/02/2009 5:39:16 PM PST by devolve ( . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . "Hey - Know what? I*d like a surf & turf!" . . . . . . . . . . .)
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To: blackbart.223
Let me see. In the seventies we were all going to freeze to death. I'm old enough to remember that one.

Yes, I recall discussing it under the moon map poster in the lab. Since we're due for glacial advance sometime, it wouldn't be surprising. Of course, that means that even a steady temperature would be breaking the natural trend.

Of course, climate variation occurs on many scales, both timescales and amplitudes.

The solution always comes from some government slug who's motives I always question.

Your solution, maybe...not mine.

Do you think that the improvements made by man are going to melt the ice in Greenland?

No. I think that it's possible the natural climate variation enhanced by man's activity might do it sometime soon ("soon" could be thousands of years). But it might not. Those who claim to know one way or the other are being too sure.

If you do then you sir are an idiot. Or at least niave.

~p
~q, either, even if it doesn't follow syllogistically.

122 posted on 11/02/2009 6:13:24 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: devolve

[- Bad Year blimp - ]
Cute!


123 posted on 11/02/2009 6:25:04 PM PST by potlatch (Actions Speak Louder Than Words)
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To: potlatch


Some time back - on one of my Turbos -

A bit of black electrical tape (temporary) :

GOO EAR


- raised white letter tires -


124 posted on 11/02/2009 6:43:20 PM PST by devolve ( . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . "Hey - Know what? I*d like a surf & turf!" . . . . . . . . . . .)
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To: devolve
Coulda been;

GO DEAR

125 posted on 11/02/2009 6:46:19 PM PST by potlatch (Actions Speak Louder Than Words)
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To: Rickcbw

They have been shoveling record early amounts of global warming all over the western US this fall.


126 posted on 11/02/2009 6:46:28 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (The End of an Error - 01/20/2013)
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

Wow Al Gore really aged quite a bit there. He used to be pretty good looking when he was running for President.


127 posted on 11/02/2009 6:48:40 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: potlatch




GOOD YEAR

GOO   EAR

GO D  EAR (would not space correctly)




128 posted on 11/02/2009 7:06:02 PM PST by devolve ( . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . "Hey - Know what? I*d like a surf & turf!" . . . . . . . . . . .)
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To: devolve

Lol, people would kinda get a ‘crook’ in their neck reading it if you were moving........snicker.


129 posted on 11/02/2009 7:08:44 PM PST by potlatch (Actions Speak Louder Than Words)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Gore is bananas!

Where is he going to get all that water from? - The whole ice-melt, sealevel rise proposition is nuts to begin with. Most of the ice on Earth is already floating in the oceans, and when it melts it shrinks. There is almost enough ice on antartica to cause a seven inch rise in the oceans, but were it warm enough to melt that, there would be considerably more vapor contained in the atmosphere.


130 posted on 11/02/2009 7:12:33 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Algore has rented Waterworld so many times that the local Blockbuster keeps a copy behind the count just for him.
131 posted on 11/02/2009 7:16:47 PM PST by Redcloak ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Gondring
"The solution always comes from some government slug who's motives I always question."

The supposed solution is what I meant and I'm quite sure you already knew that. Why on earth would we allow drastic changes to our lifestyle, financial stability and liberty to a theory that is definitely in question?

132 posted on 11/02/2009 8:38:27 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Gondring
"No. I think that it's possible the natural climate variation enhanced by man's activity might do it sometime soon ("soon" could be thousands of years). But it might not."

If I were you the only concern I would have is losing liberty on a false premise. The earth has warmed and cooled many times before "The Industrial Revoloution". It happened when man wasn't even in the picture.

133 posted on 11/02/2009 8:53:10 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

LOL, yes that’s so true. It’s amazing how far a crock like that has gotten!


134 posted on 11/02/2009 9:34:54 PM PST by Rickcbw
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To: blackbart.223
Why on earth would we allow drastic changes to our lifestyle, financial stability and liberty to a theory that is definitely in question?

I don't know...tell me, please.

135 posted on 11/02/2009 10:01:43 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: oldsalt

Yeah...Arab Internet services company Maktoob.com is such a reliable source, eh?


136 posted on 11/02/2009 10:12:02 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring
"I don't know."

I'm quite certain you don't.

137 posted on 11/02/2009 10:34:55 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: 75thOVI; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; BBell; ...

Note: this topic is from October 30, 2009. Thanks Free ThinkerNY for posting it, and thanks to, hmm, rurudyne or Tolerance Sucks Rocks for the link.
 
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138 posted on 12/19/2009 8:04:55 AM PST by SunkenCiv (My Sunday Feeling is that Nothing is easy. Goes for the rest of the week too.)
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To: CodeToad; All

“Albore doesn’t know much about math.”

I think whoever wrote this article, or supplied them with information is seriously misguided. Maybe he said 200 centimeters. This would be between 3 and 4 meters which is pretty much what some scientists have said in the past for the whole century. At some time since the end of the last ice age, sea levels were as much as 8 feet above their current level.

Saying that each meter rise could cause 100,000,000 climate refugees is probably correct. Many millions would have to move in Bangladesh and Pacific and Indian Ocean Islands. New Orleans, Miami, and others of our cities would have major problems. Holland would probably not make it. I am not saying I believe this will happen, merely that the consequences if it did are probably correct.

The writer says that 6.7 billion people would become climate refugees. That is the entire population of the world for heaven’s sake. There are large areas of Europe, Asia, Africa, and the Americans that would be above water, even with 220 feet, which no one has been predicting.

I sincerely doubt that even Al Gore said these ridiculous things, except the effects of 1 meter which is probably about right. Why do some people have to muck up serious arguments with such ridiculous “facts”.


139 posted on 12/19/2009 9:17:12 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: oldsalt; All

“Are we sure this isn’t from the Onion or Scrappleface?”

No, it is from an Arab Internet Service, listed by name in the second paragraph of the story. Why would anyone here believe anything from an Arab Internet Service?


140 posted on 12/19/2009 9:21:10 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: MediaMole

From 8th or 9th grade Earth science ...... learn what the term “isostacy” means relevant to rise in sea levels. Think about an ice cube melting in a glass. It may be pertinent to the discussion to learn about continental ice sheets and sea levels say when the Wisconson glacier covered a good portion of north america. How much of the world’s fresh water is currently locked up in terrestrial ice sheet and why is this important to agriculture, surface water resources and ground water recharge? How many millions of ft3 are bound up in terrestrial ice now, and at what rate is it declining? and why is this relevant?

Can say, the Hudson River’s delta be found in a location that is congruent with sea levels 18000 years ago. What forms geological features such as Fjords? Again, think bout isostacy because I detect a lot of missing information based on your comments.

Further, IF the science is completely wrong and the climate change that we are currently experiencing is due to natural processes yet to be adequately explained by researchers, at what point do we consider energy alternatives in light of known current fossil fuel reserves?? How long can our decedents expect to use what is left of these reserves? and how is this relevant to current population growth curves? Do you have any predictions of the challenges facing those living in a world of 9 billion plus people? Or will some deity finally step in an provide a solution for future humanity? just wondering


141 posted on 12/22/2009 2:08:33 PM PST by Perfectarc
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