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Gay athletes donít fit in what is perceived as a homophobic NFL
Kansas City Star ^ | October 30, 2009 | Randy Covitz

Posted on 10/31/2009 6:02:52 AM PDT by Zakeet

Athletes have heard the ugly words on practice fields for most of their lives. They hear them in the streets and at neighborhood hangouts.

But when Chiefs running back Larry Johnson used an antigay slur on his Twitter account and in the locker room this week, he struck a nerve that makes professional sports leagues wince.

The NFL, like other pro sports leagues, is perceived as homophobic. Of the more than 20,000 athletes who have played in the NFL, less than a handful have identified themselves as gay — David Kopay was the first in 1975, followed by Roy Simmons and Esera Tuaolo — and only after their careers had ended.

Now the image-conscious NFL — which fines players for wearing droopy socks or the wrong-colored chin straps, is frightened by the prospect of Rush Limbaugh as an owner and enforces a rigid personal conduct policy — is confronted with how to deal with gay-bashing.

“It seems like every single season I’m getting phone calls about some athlete saying a gay slur, and using the word ‘gay’ and ‘faggot’ and ‘homo’ and ‘queer’ in such a negative term,” Tuaolo said in a phone interview with The Star from his home in suburban Minneapolis.

“There are gay athletes in the NFL and in baseball and in the NHL … it’s so crippling to someone who is going to work knowing there is no support in their organization. What is also crippling to an athlete is hearing slurs like that thrown around like it’s just the thing to do. When you use the term ‘gay’ or ‘faggot’ or ‘queer’ and you use it in a negative term, it’s the same as calling a woman a ‘bitch.’ It’s demeaning to another human being. And it’s not right.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: absolutemorals; gay; gaystapo; homobama; homosexualagenda; nfl; nflisgay; perverts; romoshomos; sodomhusseinobama
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To: seowulf

51 posted on 10/31/2009 7:25:27 AM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Zakeet

I am sure that NFL executives will get on a PC kick concerning homosexuality since they were successful in banning Rush Limbaugh from owning a team.


52 posted on 10/31/2009 7:25:28 AM PDT by CORedneck
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To: All
Sorry for the double ping....computer is acting up.
53 posted on 10/31/2009 7:25:43 AM PDT by scott says (Barack ODRAMA--the politics of Fear and Loathing)
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To: scooby321

Maybe snoop,jlo and fergie will put out a song about it


54 posted on 10/31/2009 7:25:56 AM PDT by italianquaker (¬ďEvery inch of this Administration is rife with corruption and cronyism.¬Ē --- Michelle Malkin)
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To: Dr. Ursus

They are also not fond of Jews. But, hey, no black can be a bigot, right?


55 posted on 10/31/2009 7:27:11 AM PDT by RobbyS (Chirho.)
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To: flowerplough

Does this mean Tracy McGrady is Scots-Irish too?


56 posted on 10/31/2009 7:28:12 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Reaganesque
Yeah... I wonder how hairdressers feel about split ends?

NFL Homophobic? Too many guys squatting all over the place. Good grief!

57 posted on 10/31/2009 8:06:03 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: Zakeet

I am so tired of hearing the term “homophobic”! To be ‘phobic’ implies a fear of something, usually considered irrational. I’m not afraid of homosexuals and I certainly don’t fear them. That’s why (for me) I prefer the term “homoabhorent”. I abhor the homosexual lifestyle and its all consuming path toward death and destruction.

Oh, one more thing regarding this issue. While discussing this with a liberal friend, the topic of religion came up, or more precisely, Christianity. He demeaned everything about Christ and His followers. I asked him why he was a “Christaphobe”? That seemed to end the discussion.

Brian


58 posted on 10/31/2009 8:06:40 AM PDT by Kharis13
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To: Zakeet

The percentage of homosexuals is professional sports (especially football) is probably much greater than the overall population. I mean c’mon. They’re injecting each other in the rear end with steroids. Constantly in the gym lifting. Taking showers together. It’s very creepy.

And the fans that practically worship these creeps are suffering from latent homosexuality. They are queer, they just don’t realize it.


59 posted on 10/31/2009 8:13:58 AM PDT by grand wazoo
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To: Zakeet

This is all OK! But don’t you dare make a sane comment about the athletes, or you will never be allowed to own a team ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


60 posted on 10/31/2009 8:19:08 AM PDT by vpintheak (4-times an extremist)
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To: Kharis13
While discussing this with a liberal friend, the topic of religion came up,...

The liberals cannot talk about evolution and homosexuals in the same conversation and get noticably agitated when you tell them "evolution is only possible with HETEROSEXUAL relationships."

61 posted on 10/31/2009 8:23:11 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: Zakeet

63 posted on 10/31/2009 8:52:26 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: RoadTest
Proof that the political spectrum has shifted leftward, rather than the middle shifting to the right: The normal view of sodomy as deviance and sin is now itself called the deviance of “homophobia.

It depends on the issue. The country has become far more pro-life over the past decade. Economically and on national security issues, it as as conservative as it was 20 years ago.

We can blame conservatives for going along with idiotic cliche that whatever consenting adults do is fine and dandy. Conservative opinion makers have given up on the issue and the issue of preserving marriage and the nuclear family.

64 posted on 10/31/2009 9:27:43 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Tribune7
The NFL should start wearing pink shoes!!

And, pink gloves. Oh wait, they already are.

65 posted on 10/31/2009 9:31:57 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Zakeet

Ironic given that 75% of the league is black while homosexuals keep trying to equate their deviancy to racial discrimination.


66 posted on 10/31/2009 9:33:20 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Raider Sam
Does this mean Tracy McGrady is Scots-Irish too?

And Shaquille O'Neal...

67 posted on 10/31/2009 9:34:47 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Zakeet


The laces were OUT!
68 posted on 10/31/2009 9:44:47 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: flowerplough
Jason Taylor

Would you say that to his face?

69 posted on 10/31/2009 11:07:00 AM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: Reaganesque
How could any sport be homophobic that has as an on field position called “tight end?”

Or the "wide receiver."

70 posted on 10/31/2009 11:18:52 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Zakeet

The mantle of victim usually, historically has fallen about the shoulders of those who have been seen to wear it or carry its burden as you see it; with this newest victim class, the mantle can be kept conveniently in reserve and donned at a moments notice just as its counterpart, the humble umbrella, is commonly carried in tropical climes as one strolls about, taking the sun.

If one goes about on cloudy days, pointed end thrust forward and poking every goblin in sight, then the shield is lost in the heat of challenge.

What nonsense this non-gender role must eventually be seen.


71 posted on 10/31/2009 11:21:21 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: Zakeet
Whoa. Waitaminnit.

These guys are supposed to go out on the field and knock the opposition down hard enough to get them to exude bodily fluids out of their nostrils at a minimum, and they are worried about getting their feelings hurt?

Sheesh!

Take the contract money and go open an interior decorating business already...

See what happens if you let some guy pat you on the butt on national TV?

72 posted on 10/31/2009 12:29:10 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: flowerplough

Chad’s not gay. He has four kids with three different women.


73 posted on 10/31/2009 12:40:43 PM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: Zakeet

don’t we have the right to think sodomy is disgusting??? Don’t we have the right to ridicule and demean this behavior?

Doesn’t mean we hate the people who engage in the behavior...I think old fat people having sex is disgusting but it doesn’t mean i hate old fat people...


74 posted on 10/31/2009 12:46:27 PM PDT by chevydude26
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To: RoadTest
We stood still while the whole spectrum slid wa-a-a-ay to the left. Now they call mainstream, middle America the far-right lunatic fringe."

That's always been the case. One of the single most misunderstood sociological trends in constitutional republics or democracies is the idea that "people grow more conservative as they get older." In fact, what happens is they remain the same as the culture around them grows more liberal.

To illustrate: The newly formed Republican party that advocated for freeing the slaves was a radical left-wing group in its day, especially in the eyes of the more conservative southerners. Two or three generations later, most people accepted that slavery ended but were loath to accept the women suffrage movement; they couldn't, in good conscious, support a woman's right to vote. This same person, a radical liberal in their twenties, was now considered a staunch conservative in old age.

I always shake my head when I hear someone say that culturally we are a "center right" country because anyone who has spent any time in the population centers of the United States, such as New York or Los Angeles, or in areas that have a higher-than-average under 30 population knows that is not the case. I was in Ohio on business in a major university town and stopped by a high-end department store to buy some clothes. My best friend commented that in the past hour, he had seen three or four gay couples with their arm around each other, shopping like regular straight couples. No one reacted because, frankly, my generation doesn't care anymore than we would to see an interracial couple.

Many of my extended family members that still lives in small, rural farming communities (the type where the old men gather around at the feed store and spend all day talking about the weather), didn't see it coming because all of us, on one level or another, assume that everyone is like our neighbors or friends. We can't even perceive that our opinions are in the minority and that society is changing around us.

The only counter-trend is that the under 30 crowd is more pro-life than any other group, which seems odd when you consider that religious instruction has declined substantially over the past 50 years. Still, I'm grateful for that.

The point of all of this is to say, it's a fools paradise to think that people will grow more conservative in an absolute sense as they get older. The best way to convince people to support conservative causes is to demonstrate, clearly and directly, the danger they face in their everyday life if the government has control over their private decisions. As Benjamin Franklin put it, the man who wins the argument is not he who appeals to right or wrong, but to a man's interest. If we can convince people that more government means less money in their paycheck, or less freedom of choice in education, we have a much better chance of emptying out Congress and starting over with a new crop of legislators.

75 posted on 10/31/2009 12:51:27 PM PDT by WallStreetCapitalist
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To: WallStreetCapitalist

Yes, it’s true that society has been getting more liberalized over the years. That indeed has been going on sonce the late nineteenth century.

And you last point is well-taken - that appealing to people’s interests will get us much farther than appealing with concepts.


76 posted on 10/31/2009 1:15:22 PM PDT by RoadTest ( But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do)
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To: Glenn
How about queer NASCAR drivers? Why aren’t we hearing more about them?

No one in NASCAR wants to get rear-ended?

77 posted on 10/31/2009 1:17:18 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Pinkbell
Chad’s not gay. He has four kids with three different women.

Chad's gay. He is an NFL wide receiver who changed his name from Johnson to OchoCinco. Chad's gay. He is so very gay.
78 posted on 10/31/2009 3:33:36 PM PDT by flowerplough ( Pennsylvania today - New New Jersey meets North West Virginia.)
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To: BobL

It’s sickening to think about a man checking out other men. Imagine being in the showers with a queer?


79 posted on 10/31/2009 7:59:49 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Blessed Be The Name Of The Lord,For His Name Alone Is Exaulted)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

Great - now it’s almost time to go to sleep and I have to have this on my mind...


80 posted on 10/31/2009 8:02:13 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Zakeet

Why no women in the NFL?

There are no defensive linewomen at all.

THIS IS TWENTY FIRST CENTURY, AFTER ALL..!!

Helloo?! HALF of humanity is female.

Why no MODERN NFL?


81 posted on 10/31/2009 8:14:46 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Dysart
stiff resistance?

No you didn't...

LOL!

82 posted on 10/31/2009 8:37:10 PM PDT by CaptRon
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To: Zakeet

How many queers have the guts and physical ability to excel in the NFL?

I can see a civil rights lawsuit being filed the first time a queer football player gets hammered by a player who made unflattering comments regarding gay players.

“He hit me becawth I’m gay.”


83 posted on 10/31/2009 8:44:19 PM PDT by Rebelbase (This is the time of year when ACORNS fall.)
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To: Ol' Sparky

Plus, it’s bio-illogical.


84 posted on 10/31/2009 8:47:10 PM PDT by CaptRon
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To: Zakeet

One thing for sure, “gay” football would be much less violent. If you enjoy gymnastics and figure skating, you would certainly enjoy it!


85 posted on 10/31/2009 8:48:20 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: gaijin

Actually, more than half. It’s DISGUSTING I tell ya!


86 posted on 10/31/2009 8:50:21 PM PDT by CaptRon
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To: AppyPappy

Yep! Listen to a buch of teen boys and you will soon see that the worst insult in the world is “that’s so gay”. I don’t care how many laws they pass or how many times they screech about it they will never stop people from pointing out that it is not normal in any way shape or form!


87 posted on 10/31/2009 8:52:52 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Zakeet

If you’re going to be a poofter, you shouldn’t get your panties in a wad when called one


88 posted on 10/31/2009 9:13:27 PM PDT by Figment ("A communist is someone who reads Marx.An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx" R Reagan)
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To: chris_bdba

Teen girls as well.


89 posted on 10/31/2009 9:15:57 PM PDT by CaptRon
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To: WallStreetCapitalist

I get it now...

You are a homo-apologist troll!


90 posted on 11/01/2009 4:33:12 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
99% of my posts (which are several hundred thousand words) are in the economics and finance section dealing with Wall Street and credit default swaps, the Federal Reserve, etc.

Given that the election in Maine has been getting a lot of headlines, I've posted in several of the comments under that tag within the past few days.

But, then again, that would assume you could read more than five lines at a time and actually look at my entire history on the site. Sorry - I realize that's giving you too much credit. People like you always look for facts that support a foregone conclusion.

91 posted on 11/01/2009 4:41:18 PM PST by WallStreetCapitalist
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To: WallStreetCapitalist
...look at my entire history on the site.

WallStreetCapitalist
Since Oct 16, 2009

I don't believe a word of it...

92 posted on 11/01/2009 4:44:58 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: BobL

Sorry! It’s just that as a woman,two men together is totally perverted and disgusting.Men are supposed to like women,and vice versa.


93 posted on 11/01/2009 4:50:47 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Blessed Be The Name Of The Lord,For His Name Alone Is Exaulted)
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To: CaptRon

I can’t help but say this;I like it when it’s stiff! He He.


94 posted on 11/01/2009 4:52:14 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Blessed Be The Name Of The Lord,For His Name Alone Is Exaulted)
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To: Zakeet

I’m confused, Perez Hilton used the term faggot. Where was the outage?


95 posted on 11/01/2009 4:55:11 PM PST by FTJM
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
You don't have to but, with all due respect, you can't fake a knowledge of credit default swaps or the futures markets. Anyone who knew anything about the field would recognize BS a mile away.

Although, looking through your posting history, you're nothing but a common racist, trying to wrap your hatred in the false blanket of patriotism. There's nothing "conservative" about your positions - you're no different than an inner city thug advocating to kill anyone who doesn't agree with you. Your solution to anything and everything that doesn't conform to your worldview, whether its Christians or conservatives, is violence.

I cannot even begin to process how someone can believe that worldview is acceptable.

96 posted on 11/01/2009 5:07:49 PM PST by WallStreetCapitalist
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To: WallStreetCapitalist
Although, looking through your posting history, you're nothing but a common racist,...

Typical leftist troll remark... Time to call the ZOT kitties...

97 posted on 11/01/2009 5:12:10 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: WallStreetCapitalist
Although, looking through your posting history, you're nothing but a common racist, trying to wrap your hatred in the false blanket of patriotism.

Yes, I admit it... I'm a Tea Party attendee who opposes your dear leader Sodom Hussein Obama!

98 posted on 11/01/2009 5:17:55 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: WallStreetCapitalist
...you're no different than an inner city thug advocating to kill anyone who doesn't agree with you. Your solution to anything and everything that doesn't conform to your worldview, whether its Christians or conservatives, is violence.

Trotting out the leftist scarecrows and Marxist strawman arguments...

I was university educated and know your types. You hung yourself with them.

99 posted on 11/01/2009 5:22:13 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: Zakeet

And just to think, I catch hell for smoking a cigarette, what in the hell is this world coming to?


100 posted on 11/01/2009 5:46:41 PM PST by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofs)
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