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EVERYTHING EXCEPT MECCA AND MUSLIMS WILL BE DESTROYED IN HOLLYWOOD’S “2012” MOVIE
The Last Crusade ^ | Nov. 3, 2009 | The Last Crusade

Posted on 11/03/2009 8:27:14 AM PST by Psion

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To: montag813
"Forget all this...how can anyone stomach a film in which the world ends, but John Cusack survives!"

Seriously, Hollywood's leading wuss. The only other "tough guy" role I remember him being in was in Con Air, where I literally laughed out loud at him trying to be taken seriously.

41 posted on 11/03/2009 9:22:36 AM PST by RabidBartender (I will work harder, Napoleon is always right.)
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To: BlueNgold

“This is NOT in fact a Christian nation,”

Yes it is, and Israel is a Jewish Nation...Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iraq etc. are Islamic nations.


42 posted on 11/03/2009 9:23:13 AM PST by Psion ("He who dares not offend cannot be honest." Thomas Paine)
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To: Psion

saw the article. no way it recoups that money domestically.


43 posted on 11/03/2009 9:23:52 AM PST by wiggen (Never in the history of our great country have the people had less representation than they do today)
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To: BlueNgold
Why do people allow themselves to get upset when a secular entity acts ... secular?

Because they act selectively secular.

We are just exercising our First Amendment rights (assuming we still have those), to voice concern, disdain, and assemble together against such a movie.

History shows you very wrong about this not being a Christian nation -- who told you that anyway, Obama?

44 posted on 11/03/2009 9:36:31 AM PST by Lou L
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To: Psion

Thanks for posting, another movie I won’t be patronizing.

I wonder if people realize what pussies they are when they rip on safe targets but admit to explicitly avoiding supposedly tough ones because they’ll get their asses kicked.

I mean, when I see this kind of crap, I think “pussy” and I also think “bully”. Because bullies only pick on the people they are pretty certain won’t fight back or they can beat.

These people need to be called on the carpet just to be labeled as hypocrites and the little pussies they are.


45 posted on 11/03/2009 9:45:11 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: princess leah

Me too. It makes life a lot simpler when you just make a clean sweep of it and don’t see any of them.


46 posted on 11/03/2009 9:53:23 AM PST by mrsmel
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To: Lou L

I contend that history shows me very right about this not being a Christian nation. There is a difference between a nation largely of Christians free to practice their religion, and a nation that is driven and controlled by religious precepts.

Iran is a Muslim nation - Saudi Arabia is a Muslim nation - the religion and the government are inseparable and indistinguishable.

Separating politics from religion was the very first amendment - topic one in the Bill of Rights.

If you choose not to see a movie just because they choose not to show the destruction of Mecca that is a decision you are free to make, but to me the logic seems rather silly. If you are going to make choices based on religious principles about which movies you see and don’t see - I would think that a movie about the end of the world based on supposed Mayan prophecies would already be off your list.

So, you wouldn’t have protested a movie promoting false Mayan prophecies... But now some of you are upset because it does not actively show Mecca crumbling... Seriously?


47 posted on 11/03/2009 10:01:32 AM PST by BlueNgold (Have we crossed the line from Govt. in righteous fear of the People - to a People in fear of Govt??)
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To: BlueNgold

Maybe they didn’t think the destruction of Mecca was a big deal. Kinda like when a tornado hits a mobile home and does $10 worth of damage.


48 posted on 11/03/2009 10:14:16 AM PST by sportutegrl (If liberals could do math, they would be conservatives.)
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To: BlueNgold

I think you’re splitting hairs to say we’re not a Christian nation; our government may not endorse a particular religion, but many of our Founders were, and our culture is very much rooted in Christian belief.

Again, you miss my point about selective secularism. By not giving equal treatment to Muslim icons, the producers of this movie are making a political statement. Perhaps if this were the ONLY movie to show selective secularism, it wouldn’t be a big deal; people could generally see it for entertainment purposes if they wished. But destruction of ONLY Western religious icons is a trend in Hollywood. For those of us concerned about preserving our culture, we’ll decide what’s “silly” or not.


49 posted on 11/03/2009 10:29:51 AM PST by Lou L
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To: Lou L

Talk yourself into justifying your outrage all you want.

It is far from splitting hairs - the false notion that this is a Christian nation is one of the great falsehoods of the modern era.

I still find it amusing that many of you thought the movie might be worth seeing when it was ‘just’ a movie about Mayan prophecies - I guess those are OK for the staunch Christian to entertain - we can immerse ourselves in one false religion and the prophecies thereof, but we draw the line when they won’t destroy all religions equally. People here don;t seem upset that they are destroying Christian relics, just that they don’t take Mecca with them when they do.

This is not a Christian sentiment - it is an anti-Islamic sentiment - and there is a difference.


50 posted on 11/03/2009 10:50:27 AM PST by BlueNgold (Have we crossed the line from Govt. in righteous fear of the People - to a People in fear of Govt??)
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To: BlueNgold
"The movie cannot possibly depict every single religious place of consequence on the earth being destroyed"

The trailers I have seen show the Vatican being destroyed and a large gathering of people being killed...so why can't they show mucca being done?

Hollyweird it pure crap.
51 posted on 11/03/2009 10:56:14 AM PST by The Louiswu (001100101000101011100101000100111110001010100001010101 if you can read that you are a computer)
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To: The Louiswu

OMG you guys are cracking me up.

You are OK with the Vatican or St Patrick’s being destroyed on film.
You are OK with watching a movie based on false prophecies.
You are OK with watching a movie that contradicts Revelation as the true prophetic word.

You just want Mecca to get blasted too.

It warms my heart to see such true, honest, and heartfelt Christian conviction on display... [/sarc]


52 posted on 11/03/2009 11:09:43 AM PST by BlueNgold (Have we crossed the line from Govt. in righteous fear of the People - to a People in fear of Govt??)
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To: Psion

Emmercih destroys Notre Dame in every movie he makes.


53 posted on 11/03/2009 11:12:40 AM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: BlueNgold

If they had not gotten comments from the producer then you might have a point, but they did in fact get his comments on why he did show Christian monuments being destroyed and why he didn’t show Muslim monuments being destroyed.

He is a coward and a PC one at that.

Reason enough not to give him any of my money.


54 posted on 11/03/2009 11:14:19 AM PST by Double Tap
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To: Double Tap

You don;t seem to get that I do know and still don’t CARE what he said.

If you are making a decision on whether or not to see this movie based on religious ethics - and that statement by the producer is what puts you over the edge - then you have no credibility.

If Christianity and/or respect for Christianity are your decision points this movie crosses that line on several fronts - whether or not you get to see Mecca destroyed.

I really want people to be honest and say this is a cultural problem, a problem with fear of the terrorists, cowardly jerks hiding behind studio walls - that’s all fair criticism. But couching this in terms of some sort of Christian outrage because they don’t treat other religions as badly as they treat us is lunacy. (I find it similar to kids on a playground crying about what’s fair - or Democrats on TV - same thing.)

It’s like being OK with someone slapping you as long as they slap everyone else just as hard. It’s the slap that should offend, not the distribution of slaps. If you weren’t offended at being slapped until you found out they weren’t slapping everyone - you need to reset your point of offense. That is what I am trying to get at.


55 posted on 11/03/2009 11:43:38 AM PST by BlueNgold (Have we crossed the line from Govt. in righteous fear of the People - to a People in fear of Govt??)
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To: Psion
The 53-year-old Emmerich admitted that the original screenplay called for a sequence in which the Kaaba disintegrates to dust but realized that such a scene could result in the end of his professional career, if not his demise.

Hey, it'll just go back to being a meteorite.
56 posted on 11/03/2009 11:46:05 AM PST by aruanan
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To: BlueNgold

OK, I get you.

If folks want to make their statement on any other basis than yours, they have no credibility.

Have fun with that.


57 posted on 11/03/2009 11:47:41 AM PST by Double Tap
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To: aruanan

So, in order to get some “respect” for Christianity,
we have to start killing those who blaspheme?

That’s what it takes?

(I’m not serious about it in the least bit, just pointing out the differences.)


58 posted on 11/03/2009 11:48:14 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Psion
EVERYTHING EXCEPT MECCA AND MUSLIMS WILL BE DESTROYED IN HOLLYWOOD’S “2012” MOVIE

If the entire world is destroyed, Islam doesn't survive.
59 posted on 11/03/2009 11:48:23 AM PST by aruanan
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To: MrB
So, in order to get some “respect” for Christianity, we have to start killing those who blaspheme?

Well, refraining from doing something that one knows could kill one doesn't mean that the object of one's caution is also the recipient of one's respect. I don't throw down gang signs in certain areas of Chicago because I have respect for any of those gangs but because I have care for my own safety.
60 posted on 11/03/2009 11:51:28 AM PST by aruanan
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