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So. Calif. to Hear How Darwin Was Wrong
ChristianNewsWire ^ | November 3, 2009

Posted on 11/03/2009 11:45:42 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

SANTA ANA, Calif., Nov. 3 /Christian Newswire/ -- While many people continue to believe in Charles Darwin's theory of evolution, a group of scientists will present overwhelming scientific evidence against Darwin's speculations.

"If Charles Darwin knew 150 years ago what we know today, he likely would not have published Origin of the Species," said John Baumgardner, Ph.D., whose organization, Logos Research Associates, will lead the two-day "Darwin Was Wrong" conference Nov. 13-14 at Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa.

"We can perhaps excuse Darwin, given his ignorance about the true complexity of living organisms and about genetics," said Dr. Baumgardner, a geophysicist whose career was as research scientist at Los Alamos National Laboratory, Los Alamos, N.M. "Today's knowledge of molecular biology, however, has made Darwin's imagined single-cell-organism-to-man evolution indefensible."

Seven Ph.D scientists will highlight Darwin’s mistakes from genetics, geology, molecular biology, paleontology and other science areas.

Geneticist John Sanford, Ph.D., will show where Darwin went wrong with natural selection. "It is amazing to me that in this 'year of Darwin,' the whole world is bowing down to this man even while modern science is proving him wrong on all fronts," said Dr. Sanford, vice president of Logos and inventor of the world-famous "gene gun" while a Cornell professor in the 1980s. "Natural selection happens but it does not do what Darwin needed it to do. Darwin built a worldview that has come to be the governing paradigm of the intellectual community; that worldview is now collapsing in the face of new advances in science."

Another Logos founding scientist, geologist Steven A. Austin, Ph.D., has traveled to southern Argentina to document Darwin's geological mistakes. "Let nobody confuse you -- Darwin was a geologist, but he was wrong about geology," said Dr. Austin, who just returned from leading a Geological Society of America field trip to Mount St. Helens, Wash., where volcanic eruptions in 1980 and 1982 formed in just hours what many geologists had thought took much longer to form. "Mount St. Helens proved these changes can occur in days - not millions or billions of years."

Other conference speakers include:

Dr. Charles Ware, president of Crossroads Bible College, Indianapolis, Ind., and a chaplain for the Indiana Pacers basketball and Indianapolis Colts football teams, who will show Darwin's errors regarding race and the legacy of racial conflict;

Pastor Chuck Smith, senior pastor and teacher at Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa, who will address how Darwin was wrong about God.

Robert Carter, Ph.D., a marine biologist, who will discuss Darwin’s mistakes regarding the complexity of life and the origin of man;

Jerry Bergman, Ph.D., a biologist who has recently written a book called The Slaughter of the Dissidents that details the automatic expulsion from academic circles of those who criticize or question evolution. He will show how Darwin was wrong about the so-called tree of life, one of evolution's major icons;

Marcus Ross, Ph.D., a paleontologist who will address Darwin's errors regarding the fossil record;

Thomas McMullen, Ph.D., who will demonstrate how Darwin was wrong about science.

For further information, call Jim Pamplin, Logos founder and administrator, at (714) 425-9474; or Dick McDonald, (909) 636-9495.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: anthropology; antiscienceevos; atheism; belongsinreligion; biology; catastrophism; catholic; christian; creation; creationdolts; creationdumdums; creationmorons; darwindronesexposed; dna; evangelical; evolution; evoreligionexposed; geneticengineering; genetics; godsgravesglyphs; intelligentdesign; notasciencetopic; paleontolgy; propellerbeanie; protestant; science; spammer; templeofdarwin
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1 posted on 11/03/2009 11:45:43 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

There are none so blind as those that would not see.


2 posted on 11/03/2009 11:54:20 AM PST by tractorman
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To: tractorman

[There are none so blind as those that would not see.]

That is certain.


3 posted on 11/03/2009 12:05:01 PM PST by spinestein (The answer is 42.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Fewer and fewer are finding the Faith to believe in Darwin.

Pray for America’s Freedom


4 posted on 11/03/2009 12:11:49 PM PST by bray (Silent No More)
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To: bray
Darwin was correct about many things.....

And was to my understanding...a Christian man.

FWIW-

5 posted on 11/03/2009 12:19:06 PM PST by Osage Orange (Obama's a self-made man who worships his own creator...............)
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To: Osage Orange

A far better Christian than some of the Fred Phelps wannabes who spend their lives worrying about him.


6 posted on 11/03/2009 12:32:32 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Sounds like these PhD’s are living 150 years in the past.


7 posted on 11/03/2009 12:34:57 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Osage Orange; bray
You should read Darwin's recently released personal notebooks. Darwin abandoned his Christian faith long before the publication of Origins, and was already going on walks while his family attended church by 1849.
8 posted on 11/03/2009 12:40:46 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Moonman62

I’m just looking for an astrophysisist who can give me a detailed explanation of the feeding habits of whales so I can prove some marine biologists wrong. LOL


9 posted on 11/03/2009 12:41:36 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
a group of scientists will present overwhelming scientific evidence against Darwin's speculations.

Why don't they just present the overwhelming scientific evidence for Creationism, YEC or Intelligent Design? Oh, right.....

10 posted on 11/03/2009 12:42:28 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Moonman62

It’s the Temple of Darwin PhD’s who are living in the past. Creation/ID is the future (or should I say “back to the future”) of origins science, and it is the heart of operational science whether the evos wish to admit it or not.


11 posted on 11/03/2009 12:45:17 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: metmom; DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MrB; GourmetDan; Fichori; ...

Just in case any of you live, or know anyone who lives, in Southern California.

All the best—GGG


12 posted on 11/03/2009 12:47:18 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
I didn't know that...and I will assume you are correct.

But if memory serves...he never expected nor wanted his observations to become some sort of anti-God movement.

FWIW-

13 posted on 11/03/2009 12:50:55 PM PST by Osage Orange (Obama's a self-made man who worships his own creator...............)
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To: Osage Orange
That is starting to become debatable. But whatever his motivation, he certainly didn't lift a finger to dissuade his “bulldogs” from doing the same.
14 posted on 11/03/2009 12:56:23 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
It’s the Temple of Darwin PhD’s who are living in the past.

You mean all those worshipers who rejected Darwin's Pangenesis theory?

15 posted on 11/03/2009 12:58:03 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
The unique mission of Logos Research Associates is to build a professional community of researchers who operate with a high view of Scripture and a high view of science, in the classical sense of these terms. As an international community that unashamedly affirms the sovereignty of God on matters of Creation, the Fall, the Flood, the Atonement, and the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, Logos researchers are especially qualified to foster high-caliber research that builds upon and confirms these cornerstones of faith. Logos seeks to return science to a search for truth, as originally intended by its founders prior to the Enlightenment era.
16 posted on 11/03/2009 12:59:31 PM PST by HospiceNurse
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To: GodGunsGuts
Creation/ID is the future (or should I say “back to the future”) of origins science, and it is the heart of operational science whether the evos wish to admit it or not.

How do they explain sediment cores that are 200,000 years old?

17 posted on 11/03/2009 1:00:30 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62

How exactly did they arrive at an age of 200,000 years old?


18 posted on 11/03/2009 2:49:25 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts; Osage Orange; bray
"You should read Darwin's recently released personal notebooks"

Did you purchased and or read the books or the work done by Gordon Chancellor? Of so, please excerpt the part about abandoning God or reference where it is. I haven't purchased the notebooks yet. The $120 price tag on Amazon is a little too rich for my blood.

19 posted on 11/03/2009 2:59:08 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: GodGunsGuts
Beep!

For later.

20 posted on 11/03/2009 3:02:04 PM PST by YHAOS
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To: GodGunsGuts

Your thread is slowing FR down to a crawl.


21 posted on 11/03/2009 8:34:16 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: GodGunsGuts
Creation/ID is the future

Creation/ID appears to be pushing God out of creation. It should be creation by God, NOT creation by anything else.

22 posted on 11/03/2009 8:37:26 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: Moonman62
Sounds like these PhD’s are living 150 years in the past.

GGG is living 6000 years in the past!

23 posted on 11/03/2009 8:39:38 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: GodGunsGuts
Darwin abandoned his Christian faith long before the publication of Origins, and was already going on walks while his family attended church by 1849.

That sounds like George Washington.

24 posted on 11/03/2009 8:40:32 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: GodGunsGuts
Creation/ID is the future (or should I say “back to the future”)

You once said that God was the Creator. Was that a lie or have you reversed your position?

25 posted on 11/03/2009 8:42:00 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: GodGunsGuts; Moonman62
How exactly did they arrive at an age of 200,000 years old?

They, ummmm.....used these sciency methods....you know....sciency methods for sciency research.

"The Bible says...." just doesn't seem to be adequate for the science world but I bet lyin' Brian Thomas MS* or some other YEC "scientist" has already debunked every science-based dating method by now.

26 posted on 11/04/2009 9:27:23 AM PST by ElectricStrawberry (Didja know that Man walked with 100+ species of large meat eating dinos within the last 4,351 years?)
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To: ElectricStrawberry
==They, ummmm.....used these sciency methods....you know....sciency methods for sciency research.

Unlike the "sciency" methods used by Temple of Darwin fanatics, Creation Scientists prefer to rely on the actual methods of science.

Oh, and btw, your Asp dating method is shown to be nothing more than wishful thinking HERE.

As for your second link, why are you linking to an abstract in which the authors are trying to determine the validity of the very ionium method you are puting forward to establish the age of the sediment cores in question! Perhaps the abstract was too sciency for you...LOL!!!!

27 posted on 11/04/2009 10:34:48 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Creation Scientists prefer to rely on the actual methods of science.

So how can Creation Science be falsified again?

28 posted on 11/04/2009 11:36:19 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

“That is starting to become debatable.”

Starting to become debatable? How does something simply start to become debatable? Have you uncovered new evidence to support your claim? Or are you just claiming that the debate is open so that you can publicly air your fraudulent pseudo-Christian positions?


29 posted on 11/04/2009 1:05:46 PM PST by Buck W.
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To: HospiceNurse
"As an international community that unashamedly affirms the sovereignty of God on matters of Creation, the Fall, the Flood, the Atonement, and the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, Logos researchers are especially qualified to foster high-caliber research..."

That's rather an inherent contradiction, is it not? And to correct the statement, they are not "affirming the sovereignty of God", but instead affirming their belief in the literal truth of scripture. They are not the same.

30 posted on 11/04/2009 1:10:08 PM PST by Buck W.
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To: GodGunsGuts

“...Creation Scientists prefer to rely on the actual methods of science...”

Please enlighten us by posting two, with a synopsis of why they are superior to the corresponding methods that the evo-athiests use.


31 posted on 11/04/2009 1:13:09 PM PST by Buck W.
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To: Buck W.

Again, that means a lot coming from an evo-atheist whose mission it is to pose as a Christian in order to attack genuine Christians in the name of Christianity. I have asked you numerous times if Jesus Christ is your Lord and Savior, and you have refused to answer each time. All Christians confess Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. Let me know if you ever become an actual Christian (or are at least willing to be honest and admit that you are an evo-atheist disruptor posing as a Christian). Until then, buzz-off imposter.


32 posted on 11/04/2009 1:13:36 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Answer the questions, fraud. Coward. Liar.

Can you, you side-show huckster?


33 posted on 11/04/2009 1:15:29 PM PST by Buck W.
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To: GodGunsGuts

I can’t wait to see all the 20 million year-old human fossils.


34 posted on 11/04/2009 1:15:53 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Buck W.

Again, that means a lot coming from an evo-atheist whose mission it is to pose as a Christian in order to attack genuine Christians in the name of Christianity. I have asked you numerous times if Jesus Christ is your Lord and Savior, and you have refused to answer each time. All Christians confess Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. Let me know if you ever become an actual Christian (or are at least willing to be honest and admit that you are an evo-atheist disruptor posing as a Christian). Until then, buzz-off imposter.


35 posted on 11/04/2009 1:16:17 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Your insistence on proving your inadequacy in public amuses me.


36 posted on 11/04/2009 1:17:49 PM PST by Buck W.
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To: Buck W.

Again, that means a lot coming from an evo-atheist whose mission it is to pose as a Christian in order to attack genuine Christians in the name of Christianity. I have asked you numerous times if Jesus Christ is your Lord and Savior, and you have refused to answer each time. All Christians confess Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. Let me know if you ever become an actual Christian (or are at least willing to be honest and admit that you are an evo-atheist disruptor posing as a Christian). Until then, buzz-off imposter.


37 posted on 11/04/2009 1:18:55 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

That’s three—go for four? Still no answer, though.


38 posted on 11/04/2009 1:25:58 PM PST by Buck W.
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To: Buck W.; All
That's a laugh!

I have asked you numerous times if Jesus Christ is your Lord and Savior, and you have refused to answer each time. All Christians confess Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. You are an evo-atheist disruptor whose mission it is to pose as a Christian in order to attack genuine Christians in the name of Christianity. Let me know if you ever become an actual Christian (or are at least willing to be honest and admit that you are an evo-atheist disruptor posing as a Christian). Until then, buzz-off imposter.

For anyone who cares to learn more about Buck W. (that includes you, Buck W.) you can read about him HERE.

39 posted on 11/04/2009 1:33:33 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Matthew 7:15-23 applies to you, you unconscionable fraud.


40 posted on 11/04/2009 2:13:37 PM PST by Buck W.
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To: Buck W.

Ditto my last.


41 posted on 11/04/2009 2:18:18 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

I know. You remain a coward and a fraud.


42 posted on 11/04/2009 2:20:08 PM PST by Buck W.
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To: Buck W.
That means a lot coming from an evo-atheist who pretends to be a Christian in order to attack genuine Christians and make it appear as though the attack is coming from within Christianity.

I have asked you numerous times if Jesus Christ is your Lord and Savior, and you have refused to answer each time. All Christians confess Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.

Let me know if you ever become an actual Christian (or are at least willing to be honest and admit that you are an evo-atheist disruptor posing as a Christian). Until then, buzz-off imposter.

For anyone who cares to learn more about Buck W. (that includes you, Buck W.) you can read about him HERE.

43 posted on 11/04/2009 2:34:30 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Second verse, same as the first!

Have you no shame?


44 posted on 11/04/2009 2:38:38 PM PST by Buck W.
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To: Buck W.

Yes, they start with the affirmation that the Bible is literally true, then they interpret the Bible in a narrow way, and then they set out to “prove” its truth by nitpicking real science.


45 posted on 11/04/2009 3:02:35 PM PST by HospiceNurse
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To: GodGunsGuts

I know, all sciency stuff is debunked by guys like your favorite sciency writer.

Whole fields of science wiped away by administration types.

...and Man walked the Earth with 100+ species of large man eating dinosaurs....


46 posted on 11/04/2009 4:34:49 PM PST by ElectricStrawberry (Didja know that Man walked with 100+ species of large meat eating dinos within the last 4,351 years?)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Your über-scientific conclusion of my second link shows your ignorance. Maybe you should stick with administration stuff and leave the science to those that don’t have the belief that Man walked the Earth with man eating dinosaurs “because they think a book told them so”


47 posted on 11/04/2009 4:53:24 PM PST by ElectricStrawberry (Didja know that Man walked with 100+ species of large meat eating dinos within the last 4,351 years?)
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To: ElectricStrawberry

Wow....you responded with a whole lot of nothing. Hold on a moment while I put on my surprised look ;op


48 posted on 11/04/2009 5:17:04 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts; Buck W.

I don’t have to profess anything to you or anyone else. I belong to the Roman Catholic Church, the world’s largest Christian religion.

Oh, by the way, evolution is perfectly compatible with Catholicism.


49 posted on 11/04/2009 5:19:40 PM PST by Wacka
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To: Wacka; Buck W.
You just professed being a Catholic! Whereas, Buck W. variously pretends to belong to the Catholic, Protestant, or whatever other church or faith community he thinks will give his anti-Christian diatribes more credibility. But when you ask him if he's a member of the Catholic Church, he refuses to answer. When you ask him if he accepts Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior, he refuses to answer. I know this might hurt your feeling a little, but I consider you a massive step up from the likes of the Buck W's of the world.
50 posted on 11/04/2009 5:37:33 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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