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One-third of U.S. youth unfit for military
UPI.com ^ | 11-4-2009 | UPI

Posted on 11/04/2009 4:41:22 PM PST by Route797

More than one-third of Americans ages 17-24 are unqualified for military service because of physical and medical issues, U.S. military officials said.

Curt Gilroy, the Pentagon's director of accessions, said the United States has "an obesity crisis."

"There's no question about it," Gilroy told the Navy Times. "Kids are just not able to do push-ups, and they can't do pull-ups. And they can't run."

The Pentagon figures -- 35 percent of the roughly 31.2 million Americans ages 17-24 are ineligible for military service -- are drawn from data from the Centers for Disease Control. In a study scheduled to be released Thursday in Washington, U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan and a group of retired military officers say young Americans' lack of overall fitness for military duty is a national security threat, the Navy Times reported.

The report, drawing on Pentagon data, says 75 percent of the nation's 17- to 24-year-olds are ineligible for service for a variety of reasons, including:

-- 35 percent ineligible for medical/physical problems.

-- 18 percent ineligible for illegal drug use.

-- 9 percent ineligible for mental problems.

-- 18 percent have too many dependents.

-- 5 percent have a criminal record.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: military; obesity; pentagon; usmilitary; youth; youthmilitary
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To: Route797

I was a kid in the 1970s, even tehn, looking back, Phys ed was a joke. Too muck time wasted on games, like softball, which is mostly standing around. Would have been better to go through 20 minutes of calisthenics, then back to class.


21 posted on 11/04/2009 5:00:09 PM PST by brianr10
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To: Bushbacker1

I’m a college professor and an AF veteran. Some of the kids I see would have to go to pre training before Basic. I think if they were just thrown into Basic, quite a few would just keel over or worse. You’d never hear the end of it on MSNBC.


22 posted on 11/04/2009 5:01:16 PM PST by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Bushbacker1
Beyond that, the U.S. armed forces comprise less than 1% of the total population. To feed the beast, only a fraction of that is required for annual accession. If the available manpower pool is 25% it is more than sufficient.

Obviously this is a lame attempt by the CDC to drive some oddball agenda.

23 posted on 11/04/2009 5:01:33 PM PST by paddles
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To: SevenofNine

Yawn, old news recycled!!! Sensational, NOT!!!


24 posted on 11/04/2009 5:02:02 PM PST by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: Route797

“18 percent have too many dependents.”

...teenage boys knocking up teenage girls.


25 posted on 11/04/2009 5:09:13 PM PST by STONEWALLS
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To: Route797
With both parents needing to work away from the home because of a heavy tax burden, and because parent are afraid to let their kids outside due to gangs, child molesters and other creeps that are let out of prison too early it's no wonder that our youth are unfit. (That sentence was longer than most molesters get in the slam)

Kids can't play outside, they can't walk to school, they have to come home in a carpool and run inside 'cause mom and dad (or mostly mom) are at work and then lock their bums inside until the next morning where they do it all again.

No pushups, situps or pullups because they might hurt themselves (or esteem).

I don't want to feel the country is screwed... but sometimes I think we didn't fight back soon enough. Mmmm, Mmmmm, Mmmmmm

26 posted on 11/04/2009 5:09:14 PM PST by steveo (I'm alergic to Kleenex...)
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To: rbg81
How does this compares with the 4F rate for previous wars?

In 1940-1944, the rejection rate for draftees was around the low 30 pct area. But these were people who were ordered to report right off the street and off the farm to examining stations for possible service, not people who have taken it upon themselves to seek out a recruiter like the sample above. What is the state of health of the cohort that does not attempt enlistment?

27 posted on 11/04/2009 5:17:31 PM PST by Snickersnee (Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket?)
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To: Indy Pendance
Drill sergeants can’t even swear at them anymore.

OMG !!!!!!

28 posted on 11/04/2009 5:18:59 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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To: Route797

I hope someone in the military can answer this. Why is Attention Deficit Disorder an automatic no for the military? Alot of people are prescribed it just because of homework issues and all that.


29 posted on 11/04/2009 5:24:09 PM PST by Fast Ed97 (Is it bad when you start to miss the Clinton years?)
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To: Route797

Hmm...a cohort of 20 million are eligible, it’s an all-volunteer force and there are waiting lists at recruiting centers. I’ll take it.


30 posted on 11/04/2009 5:24:42 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: guitarplayer1953

THey can’t if they do they get in biggg trouble my cousin is head of troops he told me that


31 posted on 11/04/2009 5:42:33 PM PST by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: guitarplayer1953

My son-in-law, die hard sergeant, in 9 years now, he said, it’s like babysitting. The recruits are infants and bitch about everything, and have a pass to opt out. They’re coddled the entire way. But, facing an enemy ...... it’s bad, be very worried. They older guys (even 3-4 years ago), they’re OK. The newbies, it’s bad, worse than we’ve been lead to believe. This is one reason why so many are reenlisting. They love our country and serve it to defend freedom. There are many who are questioning Obama, and most who reenlist are stating, I’m in it for my country, I can’t leave them now.


32 posted on 11/04/2009 5:47:52 PM PST by Indy Pendance (Conservatives, we are their worst nightmare)
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To: Fast Ed97
I hope someone in the military can answer this. Why is Attention Deficit Disorder an automatic no for the military? Alot of people are prescribed it just because of homework issues and all that.

I think it's the Ritalin, not the ADD, that's the problem. IIRC, long term use of Ritalin prevents individuals from joining the military. It seems to cause permanent, physical changes in the brain, especially if taken during the formative years.

33 posted on 11/04/2009 5:51:51 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Bushbacker1
So! 65% are fit and that's a sizable number.

And of that 65%, only 12% show any interest in serving.

There's a more indepth article at the Navy Times site. I tried to post it yesterday but it was removed due to being a Gannett publication which isn't allowed here for copyright reasons.

34 posted on 11/04/2009 5:52:19 PM PST by Drew68
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To: rbg81

I remember when I was in ROTC I was told I could not be in the Chemical Corps because it was reclassified as a Combat Support and my eye sight precluded me. After commission I ended up in the Ordnance Corps (Service Support) and got assigned to a Reserve Infantry Training Division. When I became the Mobilization Officer for my Battalion, I got a chance to look at our mobilization plan for war. If the war with the Soviet Union got really bad, all officers in the Basic Training Companies, regardless of branch will become 11B’s (ie infantry) and the entire company of trainees upon completion of training (which can be abbreviated to two weeks) will become an infantry replacement unit for lost units. Things get bad, everyone regardless of eyesight, weight and age is infantry.


35 posted on 11/04/2009 5:54:11 PM PST by Fee (Peace, prosperity, jobs and common sense)
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To: rbg81
Some of these rejections are arbitrary too. In a pinch, we could take kids with flamboyant tatoos and those who test positive for marijuana.

Everything and I mean everything is waiverable. In times of need, prior drug use, tattoos, even felonies can be waived. I enlisted in the Navy with a whole stack of waivers. Face it, choir boys often aren't interested in enlisting. Right now though, with the economy the way it is, the military can tighten up their standards and turn more people away.

36 posted on 11/04/2009 5:57:42 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Route797

“physical problems” like being too fat? That can be fixed fairly quick. Illegal drug use can be stopped and is hard to do with a 24/7 supervisor.


37 posted on 11/04/2009 6:14:18 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: ansel12

Maybe those very motivated kids could enter a program where they get trained to fitness, but not paid beyond “three hots and a flop” and maybe some other payback requirements.


38 posted on 11/04/2009 6:25:13 PM PST by fightinJAG (Mr. President: Why did you appoint a Communist to your Administration?)
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To: SevenofNine
My dad was in the Calvary out of ft. Riley here in KS during the start of WW2 he broke horses that pull the caissons, he said in basic they called you every name in the book and a few he'd never heard before. To the day he died he woke up at 4:30 in the morning and slept with his socks on, I asked him why he was up so early one time he caught me sneaking back in the house and said the army did it to him.
39 posted on 11/04/2009 6:39:50 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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To: Fast Ed97

WTF are “homework issues”?


40 posted on 11/04/2009 6:59:42 PM PST by Eagle Eye (3%)
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