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Fort Hood soldier describes horrific scene to family in Utah (Shooter shouted Allah Akbar)
KSL television ^ | October 5, 2009

Posted on 11/05/2009 9:45:02 PM PST by lady lawyer

The news of the mass shooting at Fort Hood Thursday hit close to home for some Utahns. One man says his daughter heard the shooter exclaim "Allah Akbar" as he opened fire.

We want to stress that no government or military officials are reporting that and there is no way for us to independently confirm that it is true.

The family from northern Utah agreed to talk to us, on the condition we not identify them and blur out some photos they've supplied, because they're worried their daughter could get in trouble with her superiors for making public what she told her family she saw.

The soldier's father says his daughter was at Fort Hood Thursday when the shooting happened, and she called him, frantic and upset, soon after.

"She said, ‘Dad, I'm OK. Don't worry, I'm OK.' And initially I said, ‘What are you talking about?' She said, ‘Haven't you heard?' And I said, ‘No.' And she said, ‘We've been attacked by terrorists,'" the father explained.

He told KSL News soldiers were sitting in a staging area for medical and dental checks when the group was startled by gunfire.

"A person behind counter stood up, and he said, ‘Allah Akbar!' And just opened up on everybody," the father told us.


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1 posted on 11/05/2009 9:45:02 PM PST by lady lawyer
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To: lady lawyer

Can someone tell me what Allah Akbar means? I’ve heard the phrase, just don’t know what it means in English


2 posted on 11/05/2009 9:46:04 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

It means “god is great”.


3 posted on 11/05/2009 9:46:58 PM PST by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
"God" (Allah) "is Great" (Ahkbar).

Said right before killing non-Muslims, for nearly 1,300 years.

4 posted on 11/05/2009 9:47:10 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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To: lady lawyer
WOW

KSL is not known as a rumor monger type of outfit, old and very respected.

A bombshell if someone can collaborate the story.....

5 posted on 11/05/2009 9:47:39 PM PST by ASOC (Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui)
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To: lady lawyer

Explains why Shep Smith was asking everyone he talked to this afternoon if the shooter was vocalizing anything, they must have heard a rumor.


6 posted on 11/05/2009 9:47:41 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Sarah Barracuda
"Can someone tell me what Allah Akbar means? I’ve heard the phrase, just don’t know what it means in English.

God is great.

7 posted on 11/05/2009 9:48:13 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Bosco

This guy wanted to be a martyr for jihad..I am glad he is alive..that is what he wanted, he wanted to die, so that he could be a martyr, and he failed..now he has to pay for his crimes. This was a terrorist attack, I don’t give a hoot how the media spins it


8 posted on 11/05/2009 9:48:18 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

IIRC, “God is good!”

Will we see this info on the news (including FOX) anytime soon? I’m still waiting for the outrage from the MSM over the way HolyO addressed the Fort Hood Massacre, several minutes AFTER giving ‘shout outs’ to his buds on the reservation or wherever the heck he was! >:-(


9 posted on 11/05/2009 9:48:26 PM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: lady lawyer

If this turns out to be true, it will be

A) unreported by the press, and

B) utterly unsurprising.


10 posted on 11/05/2009 9:48:46 PM PST by denydenydeny ("I'm sure this goes against everything you've been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

God is Great....according to search I did...it’s been repeatedly reported during various terrorist type of actions (previously) that the perp said it...


11 posted on 11/05/2009 9:49:03 PM PST by goodnesswins (Become a Precinct Committee Person/Officer....in the GOP...or do NOT complain.)
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To: lady lawyer

If he survived, I hope they hang this bastard!


12 posted on 11/05/2009 9:49:07 PM PST by ABQHispConservative (A good Blue Dog is an unelected Blue Dog. Ditto Rino's!)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
"This was a terrorist attack, I don’t give a hoot how the media spins it.

No doubt in my mind.

13 posted on 11/05/2009 9:49:28 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: bigbob
And this is why C.A.I.R., the Islamic Lobbying Group, moved in AMAZING speed yesterday to DAMAGE CONTROL....because a) they knew this kind of stuff would come out, even worse, damning stuff; and b) some C.A.I.R. people may personally know of this man and therefore know of the big PR typhoon against Radical Islam about to hit the US.
14 posted on 11/05/2009 9:50:12 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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To: lady lawyer

The business insider has one of this nut jobs scribed documents

http://www.businessinsider.com/fort-hood-shooter-malik-hasan-nadal-is-alive-2009-11#comment-4af3b851000000000078da04


15 posted on 11/05/2009 9:50:55 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: lady lawyer

When that 19 year old Bosnian Muslim shot up the Trolley Square mall and killed a bunch of people here a few years ago, the local media went to great pains to cover up any possible religious motive. Stories would appear once, then never be mentioned again. The kid’s father was a member of the Bosnian Mujihadeen. The kid hinted to his girlfriend about a great thing he was going to do. Then, when they took his body back to Bosnia, his fellow Muslims gave him a hero’s burial. But, there was no religious motive, of course.


16 posted on 11/05/2009 9:50:59 PM PST by lady lawyer
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To: ASOC

“bombshell”.

Not a suprise here but in the media this will totally destroy the stress angle here and paint it as an obvious islamic treason.


17 posted on 11/05/2009 9:51:02 PM PST by Eyes Unclouded ("The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." -George Carlin)
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To: All

is there a list yet of who was injured and where they are from? Our lovely California Gov is congratulating kirk douglas for some award, just wondering if he should be thinking of his constituen’s who are based in Texas?


18 posted on 11/05/2009 9:52:20 PM PST by porter_knorr
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To: Sarah Barracuda
"Can someone tell me what Allah Akbar means?"

"I voted for Obama."
19 posted on 11/05/2009 9:53:46 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (Obama: running for re-election in '12 or running for Mahdi now? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi])
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To: ASOC
A bombshell if someone can collaborate the story.....

Here's the bombshell in the story:

The family from northern Utah agreed to talk to us, on the condition we not identify them and blur out some photos they've supplied, because they're worried their daughter could get in trouble with her superiors for making public what she told her family she saw.

That a Paliwog shouted respect for his vile god as he killed our soldiers is no bombshell. That a witness thereto fears reprisal from her stinking government, now that's a bombshell!

20 posted on 11/05/2009 9:53:46 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: Bosco

No, it means Allah is great. Allah is not God, or even god. Allah is Satan.


21 posted on 11/05/2009 9:54:05 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
"This guy wanted to be a martyr for jihad..I am glad he is alive..that is what he wanted, he wanted to die, so that he could be a martyr, and he failed..now he has to pay for his crimes."

Timothy McVey, a domestic terrorest, was caught, convicted and executed in short order as he should have been. Let's see how they treat this guy.

22 posted on 11/05/2009 9:54:11 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
Can someone tell me what Allah Akbar means?

It means break for cover.

23 posted on 11/05/2009 9:54:18 PM PST by Semper Mark ("Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples liberty's teeth.")
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To: lady lawyer

This has all happened before many times over...

In fact we are vulnerable far more than we realize.
WE have hundreds of thousands of Muslims already here in this country who will arise and kill...which is that hey have done everywhere they have infiltrated.

It is only a matter of time...


24 posted on 11/05/2009 9:54:19 PM PST by eleni121 (For God did not give us a spirit of timidity, but a spirit of power, of love and of self-discipline)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
it's an Amish phrase meaning God is great...kinda like "milk der cow" or "churn der butter".

prisoner6

25 posted on 11/05/2009 9:54:42 PM PST by prisoner6 (ACORN is nuts!)
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To: lady lawyer

Here is an interesting link and possible connection>

“Army Major (Hasan) Played Role in Presidential (Obama) Transition”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2379728/posts

He worked for Homeland Security in Obozo’s transition team.

Was Hasan heckled by the Troops at Hood for his sympathy for his fellow Muslims. Did he explode and shoot a bunch of them?

Was this about his connection to the Obozo team. Many in the Mil would not like him for this.

Just a question.


26 posted on 11/05/2009 9:54:53 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

I quit watching the MSM and Fox for “news” the Web is usually
faster
more accurate (in the longer run)
provides more ‘local detail’
and allows for local people affected to put an event in perpective....

In the FWIW, I used to spend my nights on the Nellis range (waaaaay out there) listening to KSL and KFI, both great AM stations....


27 posted on 11/05/2009 9:56:23 PM PST by ASOC (Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui)
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To: lady lawyer
One man says his daughter heard the shooter exclaim "Allah Akbar".

Rest assured, the record will say that never happened.

28 posted on 11/05/2009 9:57:21 PM PST by oyez ( damnant quod non intelligunt)
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To: pillut48
الله أكبر

(Wikipedia)"The form Allāhu is the nominative of Allah "[the one] God" The form akbar is the elative of the adjective kabīr "great". In Semitic languages, an elative may indicate a superlative (best), or a comparative (better). The term takbīr (تَكْبِير) itself is the stem II verbal noun (tafʿīlun) of the triliteral root k-b-r "great".[1]

The word akbar as used in the takbir indicates the superlative, usually translated as "greatest". In Arabic usage, akbar may also be used as a comparative, in which sense it may be approximately translated as "greater", or "bigger" in some dialects (dictionaries carry both senses of akbar).

[edit] Usage This phrase is recited by Muslims in numerous different situations. For example, when they are happy or wish to express approval, when they want to praise a speaker, during battles, and even times of extreme stress or euphoria.

The phrase is said during each stage of both obligatory prayers, which are supposed to be performed five times a day, and supererogatory prayers, which are performed at will. The Muslim call to prayer, or adhan, and to commence the prayer, or iqama, also contains the phrase, which is heard in cities all over the Muslim world. Utterances in the Prayer.

Note that takbīr (تَكْبِير) is only the name of the expression, while the phrase itself is "Allahu Akbar". In the Islamic world, instead of applause, often someone will shout "takbir" and the crowd will respond "Allahu Akbar" in chorus.

During the Iranian revolution of 1979, the call was shouted from rooftops during the evenings as a form of protest. This practice returned in the aftermath of the 2009 Iranian presidential election.[2][3] The phrase has also been used after the election to show the protest of the people against the election results. Many people shouted this phrase from 22:00-23:00 for 9 days after the 2009 Iranian election to show their protest to the result."

If you view any horrific Islamist videos taken from a distance showing one of their successful IEDs against our guys in the field, the minute the frikkin things explode, they yell "Allahu Ahkbar". Also, in those execution videos of hostages popular a while back, at the time of severing those non-Muslims heads, Al-Zarkawi and his henchmen invariably yelled "Allahu Ahkbar".

Now. The question is. How is the Government Controlled MSM in the USA walk out of this one?

29 posted on 11/05/2009 9:57:40 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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To: porter_knorr

Think the states may have been notified as the The Oklahoman reported that no soldiers from Oklahoma were killed or wounded.


30 posted on 11/05/2009 9:59:40 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: eleni121

Hasan acted alone. I can’t help but wonder when those hundreds of thousands get their cue.


31 posted on 11/05/2009 10:01:18 PM PST by oyez ( damnant quod non intelligunt)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Well, Well, Well. I knew this was going to come up, lets see if we ever hear about it again. “No indication of Terrorism” per the FBI normal denials.


32 posted on 11/05/2009 10:02:13 PM PST by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: BykrBayb
Well, the original post asked for an English translation and in Arabic, the word "Allah" is translated as "God". Don't trust me. Take a look at any Arabic-English on-line or hard copy dictionary.

"Akbar" means "the great" or "is great".

You and I agree as to the god of Islam's identity, though.

33 posted on 11/05/2009 10:02:40 PM PST by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

“Can someone tell me what Allah Akbar means?”

Please pass the health care bill (with public option)?


34 posted on 11/05/2009 10:02:44 PM PST by tatown (Obama is Kenyan for "turd")
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To: lady lawyer

My daughters boyfriend just told her his pregnant cousin was one of our soldiers killed. No one had to die if he was stopped with all the warning flags that were there


35 posted on 11/05/2009 10:02:44 PM PST by JustPiper (You think about revolution...Well...)
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To: lady lawyer
ABC and Greta reported tonight that the shooter also wrote "Allah" on his door, apparently recently and perhaps as recently as this week, FWIW.
36 posted on 11/05/2009 10:03:01 PM PST by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
"Can someone tell me what Allah Akbar means?"

HIT THE DECK!!!

37 posted on 11/05/2009 10:03:34 PM PST by oyez ( damnant quod non intelligunt)
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To: cynwoody

I’ll respectfully disagree.

When I was active duty *koff* *koff* years ago, you KNEW it was your ass if you talked out of school.

The Army has a PAO, and that’s that.

There are any number of perfectly good reasons for this, most of which - oddly for me - I happen to agree with.

I will give props to KSL for not releasing the name, I just hope the station can stand up to pressure from the FedGov, should they choose to pursue the matter. And if they do, the station will no doubt tell us about that as well.

Then my FRiend, the Schumer will be in the fan.


38 posted on 11/05/2009 10:04:01 PM PST by ASOC (Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui)
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To: lady lawyer

Hey, this guy was just mentally unbalanced and didn’t want to leave this loving America. In short, this means that he is a muslim terrorist and hates America but that is not what the government and media will admit. Profiling not allowed. Letting citizens be killed is just collateral damage for protecting the image of muslims.


39 posted on 11/05/2009 10:05:28 PM PST by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: tatown

Please pass the health care bill (with public option)?


I gotta admit, of all the definitions, this one is the best one


40 posted on 11/05/2009 10:05:46 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: lady lawyer

But no...this is not a terrorist..just a lone nut.


41 posted on 11/05/2009 10:06:26 PM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: JustPiper

OMG Please give my condolences to the family. She was pregnant too..a double tragedy :( we all mourn with you


42 posted on 11/05/2009 10:07:14 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: lady lawyer

43 posted on 11/05/2009 10:07:22 PM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
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To: PhiKapMom

thank you


44 posted on 11/05/2009 10:07:40 PM PST by porter_knorr
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To: Bosco

In that context, I can see that “god” may be the appropriate word after all. Kind of like the god of hell fire.


45 posted on 11/05/2009 10:08:22 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Sarah Barracuda; All

The truth about Extremism from the koran itself

47 posted on 11/05/2009 10:08:29 PM PST by JustPiper (You think about revolution...Well...)
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To: JustPiper
"No one had to die if he was stopped with all the warning flags that were there"

First, it's absolutely horrible that a pregnant woman was killed, as if this horror needed anything more.

I'm hesitant to believe initial reports about any of these spree killers with respect to "warning flags". Having said that, if these reports are true, then there will be some people getting relieved of duty.

The UCMJ (military law) doesn't allow service men and women to make political statements, question command authority or to question the decisions of the Command-in-Chief. If reports are to be believed, this guy did all of that and more. There should have been an investigation, at a minimum. And, if the allegation proved to be with merit, there should have been disciplinary actions taken - which would mean a court-martial for an officer. The people who didn't report these statement are derelict in there duty, and if they were reported, then command has some explaining to do about why they weren't formally investigated and prosecuted.

48 posted on 11/05/2009 10:08:45 PM PST by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: lady lawyer; nahanrac

My 3rd grader came home today, said he had a substitute teacher. He said the teacher is part Arabic and that he wrote hello and goodbye in Arabic on the chalk board, and my child was able to say it. Needless to say, I am going to have a chat that I am not sending my kid to school to learn Arabic. Am I over reacting?


49 posted on 11/05/2009 10:09:22 PM PST by lilycicero (Just askin...I'm still going in to the classroom tomorrow.)
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To: BykrBayb

Allah is not the God of Abraham.


50 posted on 11/05/2009 10:09:43 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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