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1 posted on 11/13/2009 1:51:01 AM PST by J. Neil Schulman
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Thanks Neil, the disarming of the military is disgusting and appreciate you and others trying to bring this to the forefront of the discussion.


2 posted on 11/13/2009 1:59:10 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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Bravo.

Political Correctness is LITERALLY killing us. Our military needs to carry guns, when and if they want to, on base. There should be some form of weapon wherever we group in large numbers.

And there should be a charge of treason for this terrorist. Yes, TERRORIST.


3 posted on 11/13/2009 2:08:23 AM PST by Yaelle
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I’m glad you said this, Neil: because it is being said by foreign civilians overseas, in different ways. Not all of what is being said is kind.

Besides condolences, it has been difficult to know what to post about Ft Hood this past week. Well, no — it hasn’t been difficult to know what to say at all, because you said it eloquently: it has only been acutely awkward and uncomfortable.

I do not like criticizing the US or her military: it isn’t polite for foreign FRiends of the US to do that. Certainly not foreign *civilian* FRiends like me. And certainly not so close to Veteran’s Day.

What happened at Ft. Hood boggles the mind. That it was no accident and that it could so easily have been prevented makes what happened breathtakingly criminal — way beyond the treasonous acts of the shooter.

As with Pearl Harbor, there needs to be a robust investigation and careers need to be brought to an abrupt and untidy end. At very least.

Prayers up for the families of the slain, and for the wounded.

God Bless America
*DieHard the Hunter*


6 posted on 11/13/2009 3:01:21 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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Maybe someone who has been around a while can help me out here but as someone who served in the USAF in the 60's I can not remember any restrictions on (at least) owning a weapon on base although I can not be certain as to what if any restrictions there might have been with regards to "carrying" nor, whether each branch had their own regulations pertaining thereto.

I know I was stationed first in Japan and then in Hawaii

In Japan, no one was ever concerned for our individual safety on base (or even off) in the early 60's thus this was not even considered.

Ditto, Hawaii, when I landed there in the mid 60's.

However, when I got orders for Nam, I went out and purchased (locally) a .32 Auto (yeah, I know, not much stopping power, put small and easy to carry) and I know there was never any question as to whether I could do so or have in my possession on base for the 2 months prior to my shipping out

When I returned from Nam, I cross-trained into the OSI (Office of Special Investigation) whereby not only could we carry, but usually were encouraged to do so as we wore civilian clothes and conducted all sorts of investigations.

At the time, we had the same authority as all other Fed Agents and I remember traveling on flights, armed, without so much as a concern from anyone, though I think we used to let the airlines know who we were and that we were armed

As far as other USAF personnel, I can not remember what the policies were on bases in the US and I got out in 1970.

Would be interested in hearing what others may remember and if this culture of being restricted from owning a weapon is new or has been ongoing for decades.

7 posted on 11/13/2009 3:24:49 AM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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Just another reason they’re not calling it terrorism. That way they don’t have to answer uncomfortable questions like “What anti-terror measures did you have in place?”
Ft Hood was less secure against terrorism than your typical midsized airport.
If there’s anything stupider than banning guns, it’s banning them using the honor system. At least at the airport they “trust but verify.”


8 posted on 11/13/2009 3:34:20 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (LIBERTY)
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My understanding is that this general “gun-free on base” policy goes back to WAY before Clinton. In fact, the killer was probably less likely to face immediate return fire on this base than at any randomly-chosen civilian setting in Texas.

I defer to those with background in the military for correction, if necessary.


9 posted on 11/13/2009 3:54:43 AM PST by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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Taken at Veterans Day ceremonies at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier

Looks as though the President forgot something...again

10 posted on 11/13/2009 4:32:12 AM PST by TexasCajun
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Where the hell were the MPs? If you speed on a base - anything above 15 mph - the MPs are all over you. Military bases should be the most secure places on Earth. We are at War! Why aren't there armed guards at every building & area of significance?

The military career of the officers responsible for base security should be at an end.

11 posted on 11/13/2009 5:04:20 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: J. Neil Schulman; basil; dbwz; ABriggs
Fort Hood = another gun free zone killing field!


13 posted on 11/13/2009 6:20:45 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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There have been a few ret military leaders who had the guts to speak out and call it terrorism. I wish they were in charge.


14 posted on 11/13/2009 10:46:32 AM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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