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Posted on 11/13/2009 1:21:37 PM PST by beejaa
ALL HOMEOWNERS BETTER READ THIS
Cap & Trade legislation:
This bill is only 1428 pages long. The House passed it without reading and it is in the Senate now awaiting to read it after they come back from their August recess "fact finding trips".
Here is the link for the bill
Home owners take note & tell your friends and relatives who are home owners!!! Beginning 1 year after enactment of the Act, you won't be able to sell your home unless you retrofit it to complywith the energy and water efficiency standards of this Act.
H.R. 2454, the "Cap & Trade" bill passed last week by the House of Representatives, if also passed by the Senate, will be the largest tax increase any of us has ever experienced. The Congressional Budget Office(supposedly non-partisan) estimates that in just a few years the average cost to every family of four will be $6,800 per year. No one is excluded. However, once the lower classes feel the pinch in their wallets, you can be sure these voters get a tax refund (even if they pay no taxes at all) to offset this new cost. Thus, you Mr. and Mrs. Middle Class America will have to pay even more since additional tax dollars will be needed to bail out everyone else.
But wait. This awful bill (that no one in Congress has actually read) has many more surprises in it. Probably the worst one is this: A year from now you won't be able to sell your house.
Yes, you read that right. The caveat is (there always is a caveat) that if you have enough money to make required major upgrades to your home, then you can sell it. But, if not, then forget it. Even pre-fabricated homes ("mobile homes") are included.
In effect,this bill prevents you from selling your home without the permission of the EPA administrator.
To get this permission, you will have to have the energy efficiency of your home measured. Then the government will tell you what your new energy efficiency requirement is and you will be forced to make modifications to your home under the retrofit provisions of this Act to comply with the new energy and water efficiency requirements. Then you will have to get your home measured again and get a license (called a "label" in the Act) that must be posted on your property to show what your efficiency rating is; sort of like the Energy Star efficiency rating label on your refrigerator or air conditioner. If you don't get a high enough rating, you can't sell. And, the EPA administrator is authorized to raise the standards every year, even above the automatic energy efficiency increases built into the Act.
administrator, appointed by the President, will run the Cap & Trade program (AKA the "American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009") and is authorized to make any future changes to the regulations and standards he alone determines to be in the government's best interest. Requirements are set low initially so the bill will pass Congress; then the Administrator can set much tougher new standards every year. The Act itself contains annual required increases in energy efficiency for private and commercial residences and buildings. However, the EPA administrator can set higher standards at any time.
Sect. 202 Building
Retrofit Program mandates a national
retrofit program to increase the energy efficiency of all existing homes across America. Beginning 1 year after enactment of the Act, you won't be able to sell your home unless you retrofit it to comply with the energy and water efficiency standards of this Act. You had better sell soon, because the standards will be raised each year and will be really hard (i.e, ex$pen$ive) to meet in a few years. Oh, goody! The Act allows the government to give you a grant of several thousand dollars to comply with the retrofit program requirements if you meet certain energy efficiency levels. But, wait, the State can set additional requirements on who qualifies to receive the grants. You should expect requirements such as "can't have an income of more than $50K per year", "home selling price can't be more than $125K", or anything else to target the upper middle class (and that's YOU) and prevent them from qualifying for the grants. Most of us won't get a dime and will have to pay the entire cost of the retrofit out of our own pockets. More transfer of wealth, more "change you can believe in."
Sect. 204 Building
Energy Performance Labeling Program establishes
a labeling program that for each individual residence will identify the achieved energy efficiency performance for "at least 90 percent of the residential market within 5 years after the date of the enactment of this Act." This means that within 5 years 90% of all residential homes in the U.S. must be measured and labeled. The EPA administrator will get $50M each year to enforce the labeling program. The Secretary of the Department of Energy will get an additional $20M each year to help enforce the labeling program. Some of this money will, of course, be spent on coming up with tougher standards each year. Oh, the label will be like a license for your car. You will be required to post the label in a conspicuous location in your home and will not be allowed to sell your home without having this label. And, just like your car license, you will probably be required to get a new label every so often - maybe every year. But, the government estimates the cost of measuring the energy efficiency of your home should only cost about $200 each time. Remember what they said about the auto smog inspections when they first started: that in California it would only cost $15. That was when the program started. Now the cost is about $50 for the inspection and certificate; a 333% increase. Expect the same from the home labeling program.
Greater Energy Efficiency in Building Codes establishes new energy efficiency guidelines for the National Building Code and mandates at 304(d) that 1 year after enactment of this Act, all state and local jurisdictions must adopt the National Building Code energy efficiency provisions or must obtain a certification from the federal government that their state and/or local codes have been brought into full compliance with the National Building Code energy efficiency standards.
I got this in an e-mail. Here is a link to the bill again: http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bil
Bump for a horror !
I think this is to be done through the states. Each state housing inspection authority signs up to the fed standards, and the inspections/compliance are run from each state.
Hope the White House is up to code... wouldn't want '0by' hanging around because of a lack of caulk or pipe wrap.
So much for ‘property rights’! PFFT!
An anonymous E-mail?
A web link that goes to a generic list of bills?
Words about "when they get back from August recess" ?
Sorry, I've only got so much outrage - you'll have to source it better than that if you want more...
2010 can’t get here soon enough.
Actually, I perceive this as a major boon to the building trades.
When my father passes away I will inherit his (now) 40-year old house. It has been kept up well but it needs to be rewired and the entire basement floor removed and replaced.
I’ve already determined that the house isn’t worth doing all that work but instead should be deconstructed and parts of it saved for selling to builders looking for sound usable building materials. Then I’ll sell the lot which already has electricity, water, and sewer service to the site.
It seems that is the only way around this new law. Any opinions?
Energy Performance Labeling Program establishes
The labeling program was found to be fraudulent.
Dictators at their best. So much for log homes. Anyone that votes for this needs to be run out of office.
Just sell the house and be done with it.
I can’t. Dad isn’t dead yet. You didn’t read my post carefully, did you?
The Communist Healthcare takeover was jsut the first step of the Communist plan. They have dozens more of these unconstitutional, anti-American bills they want to pass.
My head hurts!
I think I better sell this house & be done with it .
Is their any doubt that we have been turned into a communists Nation? And did most of it in around 9 months and will finish in about 5 or 6 months from now. 2010 will not stop since will be too late.
My understanding is that this has been removed from the bill. The Nat’l Assoc. of Realtors pitched a fit and had it removed back in September. At least the Realtors read the bill.
Yep - I read that before - the Federal goverment will trump ALL local building codes...and will be able to move the goalposts each year....
I’m sure the EPA will have a whole set of regs and compliance issues for you if you wish to expose all of that lead and asbestos and mercury into the world...good luck...
No more handyman specials or fixer uppers for first time home buyers. No more fixing up junkers and renting them out in order to build up equity.
Bureaucrats will love this. Their imaginations can run wild with “requirements” they can impose in the name of Enviro-Wackoism. The Tony Sopranos of the world will have a heyday with it too.
my log home is extremely efficient.
The Huge Mistake....(EPA lawyers on C&T)
I asume he has a will. If he hasn't deeded it to you yet...I wouldn't count on it being there.
Maybe, but we still need a Senate version then a conference. Just like healthcare all the crap will be added in when everyone's attention is focused on some other 0bamma caused disaster.
U tok funny. Like some long-dead white slave-owning terrorist against the Crown of Englund guy or something. Don’t be a planet hater. /s
Or they will stick this in the health care bill, or the next “Stimulus” bill, or the you-name-it bill.
GOOD PLANETS ARE HARD TO FIND (Steve Forbert) Steve Forbert Good planets are hard to find, Temp'rate zones and tropic climes, True currents in thriving seas, Winds blowin' through breathing trees, Strong ozone and safe sunshine, Good planets are hard to find. Good planets are in demand, Clean beaches and sparkling sand, Land masses with room to spare, Jet streams and perfect air, High forests and low wetlands, Good planets are in demand. And the mind don't know If the heart can't see; Let the blind man go To his destiny... Good planets are rare indeed, Rain fallin' on crops and seed, Big rivers and good topsoil, Fuel sources from cane to oil, Green gardens of all we need, Good planets are rare indeed. And the mind don't know If the heart can't see; Let the blind man go To his destiny... Good planets are scarce and few, Earthworms and caribou, Strong food chains and tasty meals, Textiles and plants that heal, Iron mountains and skies of blue, Good planets are scarce and few.
Will 0ba-Mao put his hand over his heart for that one or are the rest of us supposed to grab our crotches when it's played?
Yep he’s out to destroy the housing market further. Most people are lucky to make a few thousand off the sale of their home after all is said and done, now you will have to spend more to sell it than you could make.
I think there is a mental issue going on with that crotch grabbing thing he has going on. I don't understand why his wife or somebody can't tell him to knock it off.
Michael Jackson envy!?!
It is indeed 1428 pages long, counting the cover and House "calendar page". So really only 1426 pages of unConstitutional Crap.
From page 350, line 13
(b) ESTABLISHMENT.The Administrator shall develop and implement, in consultation with the Secretary of Energy, standards for a national energy and environmental building retrofit policy for single-family and multifamily residences.
then there a bunch of stuff about "Green Banking" which is in essence subsidies for sales/purchase of appropriately "green" housing.
Nah. I think he has to put his hands down there to make sure he still has his stuff....I think his wife is the one with the balls.
Of course it is, but that sort of quaint imagery is a distant memory to those kind of folks.
What would be constitutional, maybe, is requiring new construction to meet new terms. But what that would do is create a premium on older homes, exactly what they don’t want. This kind of thing is religion to them, and attendance in “church” is mandatory.
Chances are you're better off selling the house while your father is still here.
You're also better off selling the house as a whole. Selling parts of a house is time consuming. Sounds like a great idea at first but wait till you're in the middle of doing this. You'll regret it.
A 40 year old house is neither here nor there. If it were 140 or 4 years old, then there's a charm in there.
LMAO Probably. ;-)
Sorry. I wasn’t making fun of the song or Steve Forbert. Thanks for the link.
No offense taken, “nobody” knows who this guy is; Steve was great when he came out in the late 70’s then he po’d his record company and they held several of his albums back , refusing to release them ,,, above all he is a really good songwriter. If he gets to a venue within driving distance of you check him out ...
The problem is that we have a bunch of people in the government who don’t care about the Constitution. We need to keep making out voices heard...
“My understanding is that this has been removed from the bill. The Natl Assoc. of Realtors pitched a fit and had it removed back in September. At least the Realtors read the bill.”
I hope you’re right. Actually, now that you mention this, it would be easy to find out. Just phone a realtor. (Writing this down on my “to do” list.)