Posted on 11/14/2009 5:08:16 AM PST by libstripper
A mutual discreet bow to someone on his level (PM for instance) is one thing. A head nod bow of respect is one thing. A really low bow like this is fracking ridiculous.
You know what? You just had a brainstorm. Hmmmmmm, wonder if we could organize a national “NO CCNFIDENCE” vote. That might be more effective than a tea party. Wonder how many signatures could be generated? If we could get someone like Rush or Beck to advertise it.....think about how it might be done.
I want to know when he going to start kow-towing to the American People?
I see you got that e-mail too.
I think I may have this all wrong. We are all assuming that Obama is moving his head downward. Perhaps, just perhaps, he was moving his head upwards. You know, if you took the shot just a second after he pulls his head out of his own arse, it might just look like a bow.
Now doesnt that make you feel better?
It is inappropriate for one head of state to bow or curtsey to another head of state. They are equals on the international stage. Every head of state from the Prince of Liechtenstein to the Chairman of the Chinese People's Republic has that status.
Ask yourself, would Queen Elizabeth bow to Emperor Akihito? Would Akihito bow to Elizabeth?
A head of state loses the option to show personal deference, honor, or respect to another head of state, because they are no longer judged merely on their own personal character by such actions, but are judged on the world stage. Every diplomat in the State Department gets training on international protocol. Military members stationed or deploying overseas get similar training. Deference, even with allies, no matter how well intended, can be dangerous in international relations.
Obama is not an ordinary citizen, he is not even a Prime Minister, he is a head of state. He has yet to act like one.
That is absolutely correct, and depsite living in Japan for several years and many military and civilian training session on international protocol, I completely forgot that point.
When two captains of Japanese industry meet, no matter if they are fierce competitors or partners in a joint endevor, that is exactly how they greet each other. A slight bow while maintaining eye contact.
This is Protocol 101. Either Obama is so arrogant he ignores the advice from his protocol staff, or he is so arrogant he has no protocol staff.
Two friends or associates in Japan may bow to each other upon greeting as a mutual form of respect. I’ve even seen two individuals bow back and forth innumerable times (guess they were happy to see each other). For a sitting U.S. president to bow this low to the emperor is a sign he’s unfamiliar with the custom and shouldn’t be bowing to a foreign ruler anyway.
I am a professional in that regard,
I owe no apology to anyone for being a conservative inter cultural professional.
And I do not really cotton to the political correctness that you might feel important, I opt for accuracy.Accurate communication has nothing to do with "caring" what "they" think of us.It has to do with making sure we have a positive and mutually beneficual reationship, which BTW, we have had for a long time, up until now.Obama destroys that.
Good luck to you.
Thanks FRiend!
Given that he can’t salute our own troops in a half-decent manner, it is no wonder he looks like an @ss trying to bow. Damn, if both Barack and whomever the specialist on protocal are a couple of nitwits.
Given that he can’t salute our own troops in a half-decent manner, it is no wonder he looks like an @ss trying to bow. Damn, if both Barack and whomever the specialist on protocal are a couple of nitwits.
Apparently the President doesn't care enough about the Japanese to learn appropriate protocol, and the weird handshake-bow telegraphed that.
The Japanese are sensitive about being stereotyped, and the bow-handshake thingy suggests that Mr. Obama is relying on inaccurate stereotypes rather than informing himself accurately.
The Japanese exist under our protection as a pacifist nation. At some point, they will have to question their pacifist status, and a President who can't be bothered to learn how to execute a basic greeting only reminds them of how little most Americans care about the future of the Japanese people. Are we committed to protecting Japan? If not, they may want to take back the billions of dollars they are paying us to do so and the military bases we depend upon to protect our interests in that part of the Pacific.
Post 111: recommended reading for all.
A bow of not only of subservience but also of apology would be my guess. It says, “How dare we have kicked your rear ends in World War II? After all, bombing Hawaii was just a little display of frustration by some kamikazes that had a RIGHT to feel frustrated.”
Excellent post, Candor. You’ve educated us. I go back to Obama’s lack of nurturing, training, and dare I say “breeding” during his early years. Lack of basic, nurturing parenting also leads to a “hole” in basic development of empathy, conscience, and an awareness of other people. It explains some people who go through life like ill-bred boors. In both B.O. and Clinton, some major screws are missing because of an also screwed-up family life. I have firsthand experience. My dad was shuffled among relatives after his mother died when he was a toddler. When he met my mom at about age 17, she had to teach him how to eat properly, which fork to use, proper etiquette, etc. I believe B.O. has been socially adrift his whole life and literally lacks something in his psyche that cannot be resurrected. Either that, or he is VERY MUCH aware of his gaffes and enjoys poking this country in the eye!
Now, a thinking person would recognize what I wrote, and realize it's the EXACT OPPOSITE of what you claim and in fact is a rather sarcastic attack at the President and his defenders, but someone with a limited vocabulary would rather jump to conclusions than learn what was written.
Are you delusional? American presidents don’t bow. He isn’t an American and he hates America. He knows the other bow caused his support to wane, so he does it again to make it appear that he didn’t just to the Muzzies. I’m so onto his tactics.
BTW.. I still think Obama is a loser!!!! :)
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