Skip to comments.Fort Hood captain: Hasan wanted patients to face war crimes charges (UnFreakin Believable)
Posted on 11/17/2009 7:34:13 AM PST by Grumpybutt
Fort Hood massacre suspect Nidal Malik Hasan sought to have some of his patients prosecuted for war crimes based on statements they made during psychiatric sessions with him, a captain who served on the base said Monday.
Other psychiatrists complained to superiors that Hasan's actions violated doctor-patient confidentiality, Capt. Shannon Meehan told The Dallas Morning News.
One day after the Nov. 5 attack that killed 13 and wounded 29, a Fort Hood official said she had never received complaints about Hasan's job performance. Col. Kimberly Kesling, deputy commander of clinical services at the base's Darnall Army Medical Center, also said he was a "hardworking, dedicated young man who gave great care to his patients."
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Well, Obama will make this happen for him.
Could this guy have been any more obvious? He was jumping up and down with a sign that screamed “Look at me! I’m a terrorist!”
They might use this as an insanity defense, "rehabilitate" him an set him free. They are insane enough to do this.
“I still don't understand why this man wasn't taken out of service before his terrorist attack on the base.”
Political correctness stopped them form doing that.
What is even more unfreaking unbelievable is Charley Gibson on ABC news last night was using this as an EXCUSE for Hasan, essentially once again blaming BUSH for this loose cannon Hasan to murder his fellow marines.
Yup, no matter what, it is all BUSH’s fault, right Mr. Gibson?
This *&^%^((( f-ing *(&^$#*&&**_.
The point of getting the help is that normal Americans are not a violence prone people ( I know I know). The War experience ofcourse brings feelings of guilt.
It is the shrinks job to help the client work through those feelings to reach the logical conclusion that self-defense of the Nation requires harsh actions.
A terrorist product sponsored by the US PC DemoRat liberal.
A freaking TERRORIST. Nothing less. Supported by unAmerican squatters on our soil.
I want to know when someone in the halfas* army, chain of command is going to walk the plank for this BS. Make that several somebodies.
Charley Gibson on ABC last night, paraphrasing:
Gibson: It could very well be that the military’s failure to prosecute patients Major Hasan was treating for “war crimes” they admitted to Major Hasan while he was treating them set this chain of events off. Major Hasan had any number of times demanded the military pursue war crime charges for his patients that made statements while being treated that Major Hasan considered war crimes, but each time the military refused to pursue that avenue.
If Col. Kimberly Kessling is stating that the goat fornicator was better than sliced bread there ain’t anyway a subordinate is going to tell her different.
Unless, of course, the col is a lying sack.
Don’t they have mental hospitals in the army for guys like that?
Too bad they couldn’t have tossed his sorry ass in a padded cell somewhere & thrown away the key before he could do this.
PC is bad enough but I had no idea that a military base was a gun free zone. That makes absolutely no sense to me.
He so meticulously planned this attack. There is no way he gets off due to “insanity”. Could his lawyers try it?...Sure, they can TRY anything.
Hitler’s mind and thought processes could have been CALLED insane...however, Hitler (like Hasan) knew what he was doing. He had an exacting rationale for his actions and specific plans to carry them out. In that sense he wasn’t “out of his mind”.
By any reasoning that would find Hasan insane, Hitler and his ilk could be excused for all those killed in WWII including 6 million Jews.
But, but, he COULD be insane. So what if he KNEW what he was doing. His INSANITY is what made it not wrong for him.
Of course I want him executed. I’m just trying to show you how they could twist this thing. Of late, I put NOTHING past these terrorists running OUR COUNTRY.
I have come into contact with soldiers that are suffering the guilt aspect of War.
Some very anry and some severly depressed.
There are plenty of WELL-qualified therapist working with them as we speak.
It is absolutely heartbreaking to see some of our young people suffering like this. I can only imagine what they are going through in Afgan/Iraq with the current politization of the WAR on TERROR.
Gibson is full of it.
I’ve never been impressed with his intellect.
Now, I’m even LESS so.
So, let me see...Hasan is going to be the judge of who should be prosecuted for war crimes, and his patients would be used to provide the material on which to prosecute...uh...his patients.
Therefore, he felt justified in opening fire on unarmed people like ducks in a shooting gallery.
"I heard he was not one you wanted to go to" because he didn't finish his work promptly, Meehan said. "Apparently
Well well well. Jihad by infiltration and subversion of the military legal system. Give the SOB credit for inventiveness.
Because Hasan was a Muslim. That would be “profiling” and “racist” not to mention discriminating again his “creed.”
It’s very simple. PC trumps all, even in the military.
By that same logic, Hitler had no blame for his atrocities against mankind.
The legal meaning of insanity prevents one who has thought the thing through, and has his reasons and plans, and is in full possession of his faculties, from being judged insane.
It isn’t nearly enough to say that because he thought it was ok, therefore it was ok for him.
The army board that passes over any army Captain for Major better have a long paper trail.
Don't worry. Liberals can easily redefine things.
Just look at the 9/11 trial in NYC. These terrorists now have the protection of OUR Constitution, legal rights as citizens and our GOVERNMENT will be on trial. Who would have thought they'd do THAT. I'm telling you, it's INSANITY to do those things.
Obiviously the good Colonel is in line for a promotion!
BTW, I believe YOU are right but the LEFT running the show is ALWAYS wrong.
I wonder how many suicides this Col and Major Hasan assisted?
COL Kesling, I'll give you a choice: reason your commission, or face a court martial for dereliction of duty.
Unless the Army is the Left running the show, when he is tried this will not happen.
To say there is pc in the Army is not the same as saying the Left will run this Army trial.
Many in the Army were afraid for their careers. In no way did they think his behavior was ok or excusable just because they did not speak out or speak out forcefully.
Now that he has done this horrific act, pc will not lead to an Army jury finding him innocent by insanity.
I don't get how this was a possibility even in Hassan's dreams. Isn't it immoral? Isn't a soldier seeing an Army psychiatrist entitled to the unbreachable wall of privacy he'd get if he spoke in confidence to his lawyer? Or to a Catholic priest? I don't see the point of going to an Army shrink if there's no patient confidentiality. Might as well go off-base.
They’re going through enough already.
What a shame that a dirt bag like this was allowed to stir up their brains even further.
Get used to it.
I have to believe that’s at least partly thanks to the lying anti-American terrorist-embracing media. The troops should be getting treated as heros, no ifs ands or buts, instead they come home to a media and groups like Code Puke calling them murderers and worse. The guys who dropped the first atom bomb, to the best of my knowledge, never felt that they’d committed a crime (which of course they hadn’t), but just imagine them having to come back to the media/political climate our troops have had to face since at least Vietnam.
The media and the rats have so much to answer for in their treason.
What kind of drugs are these people on?
Hasan was openly communicating how much he hated the American effort in Afghanistan and Iraq, and he was accusing his patients of war crimes. And this woman claims that he was the greatest thing since sliced bread?
These politically correct drones shock and disturb me because they are not capable of distinguishing RIGHT from WRONG, and this particular FAILURE directly led to the murder of 14 human beings and the serious wounding of another 40.
WTH is wrong with these damn idiots?
Are they that stupid by default, or are they programmed to reject common sense?
” “He was right on his authority to report it,” said the ex-Marine,
who formerly served as a court-martial judge. The Army teaches all
service members that they have a duty to report evidence of war crimes. “
(I’m not Catholic)
It seems the moral of this sad tale is that if you have to get something
off your chest about wartime activities...
take it to a priest in the confessional.
(My naive thought is that if you confess something vile enough,
the priest might tell you that you need to turn yourself in and
take your lumps. But not being Catholic, I may be totally off with
Not only has this EVIL Hasan put 13/14 in a grave and wounded many
he’s now poisoned any thought that returning military personnel
will readily open up to their shrinks/counselors.
(I’m not for covering-up for obvious war-crimes. But this SOB Hasan
was probably looking to turn any innocent, but regrettable, collateral
damage into a war crime.)
At the very least our wonderful D.C based Freepers like Raoul and Kristinn have made sure that Code Pinkos didn’t go unchallenged.
These young men and women are no different than the Soldiers that fought to the death to defet the Fascist National Socialist of WWII.
To have this traitor attempting to destroy our young soldiers BEFORE he MURDERED others is beyond outragous. It is pure evil.
If that’s true that Hasan had demanded “any number of times” that his own patients be charged with war crimes, why on earth did his superiors give him any patients at all? About two or three times is enough to notice a major problem.
He was in the US Army, Marines use Navy doctors and Corpsmen.
Also there is something about "Do no harm"
Boy howdy. Can you imagine some poor grunt being sent to this example of poor bovine breeding? On top of that, she’d probably tell ‘em he’s a baby killer and a war criminal.
Saw that I said Marines and not Army, but my son in the Marines says they (the Marines) are the only real soldiers anyway.....
The answer is PC. Not political correctness as it used to be but political COWARDICE.
For the most part we are a nation dominated by cowards who parrot the “We are a nation of laws” garbage that makes our enemies into heroes and our real heroes into criminals.
Take, for instance, the Fort Hood terrorist or the movement of the KSM trial to New York. Who’s really on trial? In the former example, it’s the Army and the vets who have fought bravely and gallantly and are now being accused by a radical of war crimes. In the latter, it will be the CIA interrogators whose “enhanced interrogation techiniques” are now being brought into question by the very people who screamed for blood after 9/11 and told them to do what was necessary.
The liberals scream for the blood of our own, forgetting that they’re on our side and that our soldiers and agents have made sacrifices beyond what nearly any politician has even considered. They are unable to understand Churchill’s statement that “we sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm.”
They are cowards of the first order who attack our brave defenders and defend the enemy.
There are going to be a bunch of unexpected retirements for personal reasons. Fort Hood and Walter Reed are going to get new Commanders and a bunch of people are not going to make General. Remember we have been fighting a war for the last 8 years and the warfighters are going to be on the promotion boards. Having Hasan in your chain of command is going to be the “Kiss of Death” to your career.
Because the “highest good” in our silly military isn’t to protect us from evil and destruction but to push PC...