Posted on 11/20/2009 2:45:41 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
On 20 November 2009, emails and other documents, apparently originating from with the Climate Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia.
If real, these emails contain some quite surprising and even disappointing insights into what has been happening within the climate change scientific establishment. Worryingly this same group of scientists are very influential in terms of economic and social policy formation around the subject of climate change.
As these emails are already in the public domain, I think it is important that people are able to look through them and judge for themselves. Until I am told otherwise I have no reason to think the text found on this site is true or false. It is here just as a curiosity!
You can either search using the keyword search box above, or use the links below to browse them 25 emails at a time.
(Excerpt) Read more at anelegantchaos.org ...
TFound this recent thread:
Mass Migrations And War: Dire Climate Scenario
AP Report ^ | February 21, 2009
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Posted on Sat 21 Feb 2009 04:43:03 PM PST by Steelfish
Mass migrations and war: Dire climate scenario
CHARLES J. HANLEY, AP Special Correspondent – Feb 21, 3:00 pm ET
CAPE TOWN, South Africa – If we don't deal with climate change decisively, "what we're talking about then is extended world war," the eminent economist said.
His audience Saturday, small and elite, had been stranded here by bad weather and were talking climate. They couldn't do much about the one, but the other was squarely in their hands.
And so, Lord Nicholas Stern was telling them, was the potential for mass migrations setting off mass conflict.
"Somehow we have to explain to people just how worrying that is," the British economic thinker said.
Stern, author of a major British government report detailing the cost of climate change, was one of a select group of two dozen — environment ministers, climate negotiators and experts from 16 nations — scheduled to fly to Antarctica to learn firsthand how global warming might melt its ice into the sea, raising ocean levels worldwide.
ROFL....so much for calm scientific inquiry!
those records in and show that the primary signals remain?
THIS is Science?
Thanks for the pings Ernest.
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"This was an act of anger, desperation and indignation" is the way Gar Smith, editor of Earth Island Journal, described the terrorist attack on America two days after it happened. He offered an "environmental analysis" of the event, tracing "every terrorist attack against the United States . . . back to one common factor: Oil." Mr. Smith's solution to terrorism was "to transform our economy into one that operates on clean, renewable energy."
Meanwhile, the Green Party USA suggested that we respond to the attacks by letting "U.S. corporations, so busy using up Earth's resources and beggaring Earth's life forms, protect themselves." It proposed an end to the American "manufacture and sale of most pesticides and industrial toxic chemicals."
That's one way of looking at Sept. 11 -- as if Osama bin Laden will leave us alone if we stop making plastic and start using ethanol. What is so odd about this, coming from environmentalists, is that prosperity is the reason why so many environmental trends are positive today, and prosperity owes a great deal to energy production, technology and markets.
You don't believe that environmental trends are positive? You are not alone: The media treat the environment as a subject of ceaseless decline, hastened by the indifference of ruthless capitalists and their toady politicians. But The Skeptical Environmentalist (Cambridge, 515 pages, $27.95 paper), a superbly documented and readable book by a former member of Greenpeace, has a different story to tell.
The author, Bjorn Lomborg, is a professor of statistics at the University of Aarhus in Denmark and a self-described "man of the Left." A few years ago he read an article about the economist Julian Simon in which Simon claimed that the state of humanity and the natural environment were both improving. Mr. Lomborg didn't believe it. He directed his students to find the "real" data that would debunk this "right-wing" American. What they found stunned him and inspired this book.
Mr. Lomborg begins with what he calls The Litany. "We all know it," he dryly notes: "Our resources are running out. The population is ever growing, leaving less and less to eat. The air and water are becoming ever more polluted. . . . The world's ecosystem is breaking down." There is "just one problem," he continues. The Litany "does not seem to be backed up by the available evidence."
Yes, the 'science' of propaganda.
Science in the quest for research grants....
Would someone please search “Chicago Climate Exchange”. Obama was on the board of the Joyce foundation when it voted to put up the million dollars in seed money for the Chicago Climate Exchange. Now he is a position to see that they are generously rewarded.....with our dollars.
You are welcome as long as you promise to be your own dupa.
Pure gold self ~ping~
From: Tom Wigley To: Phil Jones Subject: 1940s Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 23:25:38 -0600 Cc: Ben Santer
Phil,
Here are some speculations on correcting SSTs to partly explain the 1940s warming blip.
If you look at the attached plot you will see that the land also shows the 1940s blip (as I’m sure you know).
So, if we could reduce the ocean blip by, say, 0.15 degC, then this would be significant for the global mean — but we’d still have to explain the land blip.
I’ve chosen 0.15 here deliberately. This still leaves an ocean blip, and i think one needs to have some form of ocean blip to explain the land blip
http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/emails.php?eid=1016
Digging up stuff....dates...names...and posting stuff we find after searches...
The web site with the searching capabilites that started this thread...is an absolute GOLD MINE and SO REVEALING!
Yes, it is!
From: Sonja A Boehmer-Christiansen
Date: 2 October 2009 18:09:39 GMT+01:00
To: Stephanie Ferguson
Cc: “Peiser, Benny” , Patrick David Henderson
, Christopher Monckton
Subject: RE: Please take note of potetially serious allegations of scientific
‘fraud’ by CRU and Met Office
Dear Stephanie
I expect that a great deal of UKCIP work is based on the data provided by CRU (as
does the work of the IPCC and of course UK climate policy). Some of this, very
fundamentally, would now seem to be open to scientific challenge, and may even face future
legal enquiries. It may be in the interest of UKCIP to inform itself in good time and
become a little more ‘uncertain’ about its policy advice.
http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/emails.php?eid=1038
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Man oh Man ...the phrases were never meant to see the light of day!
At 16:54 27/10/2009, Michael Mann wrote:
thanks Phil,
Perhaps we’ll do a simple update to the Yamal post, e.g. linking Keith/s new
page—Gavin t?
As to the issues of robustness, particularly w.r.t. inclusion of the Yamal series, we
actually emphasized that (including the Osborn and Briffa ‘06 sensitivity test) in our
original post! As we all know, this isn’t about truth at all, its about plausibly
deniable accusations,
m
http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/emails.php?eid=1062
You searched for Chicago Climate Exchange
There were 0 results for the exact phrase Chicago Climate Exchange, see below for more results.
There were 756 results for the keywords used in your search: Chicago Climate Exchange , see below for those results.
You will have to perform the search...my trying to link to what I see doesn't work for me.
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Oh yeah....thanks......
Thanks for trying.
Frigging unreal!
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From: Phil Jones To: Kevin Trenberth , Grant Foster Subject: Re: ENSO blamed over warming - paper in JGR Date: Wed Aug 5 16:14:34 2009 Cc: "J. Salinger" , James Annan , b.mullan@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, Gavin Schmidt , Mike Mann , j.renwick@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Hi all,
Agree with Kevin that Tom Karl has too much to do. Tom Wigley is semi retired and like Mike Wallace may not be responsive to requests from JGR.
We have Ben Santer in common ! Dave Thompson is a good suggestion.
I'd go for one of Tom Peterson or Dave Easterling.
To get a spread, I'd go with 3 US, One Australian and one in Europe.
So Neville Nicholls and David Parker.
All of them know the sorts of things to say - about our comment and the awful original, without any prompting.
Cheers
Phil
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All of them know the sorts of things to say - about our comment and the awful original, without any prompting.
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