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Fort Hood Texas Shootings Archives (part2)
multiple | November 21, 2009

Posted on 11/21/2009 12:25:53 AM PST by Freedom2specul8

Fort Hood Texas Shootings
Free Republic Archives PART II

ORIGINAL Fort Hood Archives...


If you create a new thread, feel free to post a link to it here as well. If you post a link, you don't have to ping it to me..just take my name out of the ping field. The last time it filled my ping box pretty fast. My thanks to ALL who helped create the previous thread.

Our prayers Continue......

Fort Hood's Fallen Heroes
By Freeper La Enchiladita...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; US: Texas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 4thetroops; alquada; banglist; cair; corruption; forthood; forthoodarchive; forthoodarchives; fthood; hasan; islam; mediabias; military; muslim; nadilmalikhasan; obama; patriotism; pc; politicalcorrectness; politics; terrorism; terrorist; thugs; wot
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My original intent was to repost all of the links from the previous thread without the comments. Unfortunately, the leftover fr html code within the links butchered the format, and I was unable to find the time needed to undo the format change that FR's softared added. Regardless, all threads that I can find will be added as soon as I can find them. As always, feel free to add your own links, pictures etc..



People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. --George Orwell--

It is easy to take liberty for granted, when you have never had it taken from you. ~Author unknown

Where liberty dwells, there is my country. ~Benjamin Franklin

Freedom is never free. ~Author Unknown

My God! How little do my countrymen know what precious blessings they are in possession of, and which no other people on earth enjoy! ~Thomas Jefferson

And I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free. And I won't forget the men who died, who gave that right to me. ~Lee Greenwood

----Kim


Please do what you can.



Support groups mobilize resources in wake of Fort Hood shooting
296 posted on 11/11/2009 1:24:18 AM PST by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1, 4 if by Thread.)


Bumping your excellent tribute, and adding my thanks and prayers for blessings:
290 posted on 11/10/2009 10:52:37 PM PST by LucyJo

1 posted on 11/21/2009 12:25:58 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: La Enchiladita; LucyJo; MestaMachine; 444Flyer; STARWISE; LucyT

New thread.. It’s too late for me to look for all the new links right now. Will work on it tomorrow. I spent too much time trying to remove the weird html code that fr’s software added to the previous thread. It messed up the links, and made the images broken. For example, it added for (br /) but with arrows.


2 posted on 11/21/2009 12:33:13 AM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: knighthawk

Am starting a new thread..if you think your islam-list would be interested, feel free to ping them. I’ll be compiling the threads from the past week and posting them here, along with the newer ones. Thanks...


3 posted on 11/21/2009 12:37:02 AM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; NYer; ELS; Salvation; Miss Didi; Miss Marple; LUV W; Mrs. Don-o; nickcarraway; ...
Fourteenth Fort Hood victim forgotten

Last week, Maj. Nadil Malik Hasan was indicted on 13 counts of murder for the shootings at Fort Hood which took place on Nov. 5. Missing from the list of victims is the three-month-old unborn child of Private Francheska Velez.

The Alliance Defense Fund, a legal alliance of Christian attorneys, has sent a letter to the Office of Staff Judge Advocate at Fort Hood requesting that the murder of Velez's child be included in the case against Malik.

“It would cause a severe and negative impact on morale if Army women were made to believe that the Army valued their children less than they did adult victims of crime. We respectfully request that you enforce UCMJ Article 119a against the suspect," the ADF's letter stated.

Velez, who was three months pregnant, had just returned from Iraq, and was a month away from going home to Chicago on maternity leave.

Thanks to the Uniform Code of Military Justice, Article 119a, also known as “Laci and Connor's Law,” which was signed into existence by President George W. Bush in 2004, anyone who inflicts violence upon a pregnant woman which leads to the death of the child, whether or not the perpetrator was aware the woman was pregnant, is criminally liable for the death of the child.

The law resulted from the disappearance, and subsequent death of Laci Peterson, of Modesto, Calif, who was seven months pregnant with her son Connor at the time. Laci's husband Scott was later convicted of first degree murder of his wife and second degree murder of his unborn son.

The State of Texas also passed a “Prenatal Protection Act” in 2003. They have also established a precedent as they charged a man who killed his pregnant girlfriend with a shotgun with capital murder, defined as causing the death of "more than one person... during the same criminal transaction."

Under the law, Maj. Nadil Malik Hasan can be held criminally liable for the death of Velez's child, referred to as “Baby Velez.” However, at this point in time, Army officials have only indicated that additional charges against Hasan are under consideration.

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Video - Soldier's body returns to Chicago

A procession led by the Patriot Guard escorted the body of Private Francheska Velez through her hometown.

Velez, who was six weeks pregnant, was killed in the shootings at Fort Hood on November 5. She had returned from Iraq three days earlier and was filling out paperwork related to her pregnancy when Major Nidal Malik Hasan allegedly opened fire.

At 10 a.m. the plane carrying Velez's body landed at Chicago's Midway Airport. Twelve days ago, Velez and a dozen others were killed in the shooting at Fort Hood.

"When we walked in and they took the body out of the plane it was heartbreaking. It was a beautiful ceremony what they did& Overall it was very hard and a really sad moment for all of us," said Sandy Rivera, cousin.

At least thirty people--all strangers-- gathered outside the hangar where Velez's body was transferred to a waiting hearse. Two of them were chosen to go inside and personally pay tribute. But even for those who stayed outside it was an emotional time.

"I'm grateful that the patriots came and got me and my mom to come in and present the flag of the U.S. for her and her family. It was just so heartbreaking," said Michele Guerrero, who came to pay her respects.

"It's important to show respect for those who serve our country so that we have what we have& our rights as U.S. citizens," said Manny Lopez.

Once the ceremony was concluded, a procession, led by the Patriot Guard took Velez's body through the city, first past her former high school, Kelvin Park, and finally to a Northwest Side funeral home. Throughout the procession, people saluted the hearse. Patriot Guard Dave Hume has led many of these processions, but this one, he says, was harder.

"To have someone killed on your own soil is a different story. You don't expect that to happen," said Hume.

Pvt. Francheska Velez, who was killed in the Fort Hood shooting spree, was laid to rest on Thursday on the Northwest side.


6 posted on 11/21/2009 8:10:36 AM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; All
Rest in peace, innocent victims of islamic terrorism on our soil

Hot Links: Hasan reportedly skipped over civilians

Excerpt:

Only one of the 13 people (right) killed in the Fort Hood massacre was a civilian. And that's no accident, The Austin American-Statesman reports today.

Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan apparently targeted soldiers and avoided others nearby, U.S. Rep. John Carter and an anonymous source close to the investigation told the paper.

The story makes sense in light of previous reports that Hasan, an Army psychiatrist, had ties to a radical Muslim cleric in Yemen, Anwar al-Awlaki. Before the massacre, the imam advocated killing soldiers who fight against Muslims; afterward, he called Hasan a hero.

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Shooter had his sights set on soldiers, sources say - Civilians reportedly purposely skipped in rampage at post

Excerpt:

Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, the suspect in the Fort Hood shooting rampage, appears to have targeted soldiers and deliberately passed over civilians as he fired more than 100 rounds, according to U.S. Rep. John Carter and a source close to the investigation.

Carter, whose district includes Fort Hood, told the American-Statesman on Wednesday that Hasan shot one soldier three times until he fell, then shot the soldier three more times when it was apparent he was still alive. Carter said Hasan, an Army psychiatrist, trained his handguns on civilians in the Soldier Readiness Processing Center but would shake his head and move on.


7 posted on 11/21/2009 8:40:39 AM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: STARWISE
received a e-mail showing Obama with his hands across his fly while three other officers were saluting during the cermony at Ft Hood.
I had deleted it before I realized it. But maybe FR should locate this photo and post it repeadedly on this site. That would make twice Obama saluting with his hands across his fly.
8 posted on 11/21/2009 9:27:06 AM PST by spookie (SPOOKIE)
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To: spookie

He’s so excited about the flag he has to coveer that part of his body. Ok, maybe not.


9 posted on 11/21/2009 9:28:09 AM PST by votemout
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To: votemout; ~Kim4VRWC's~; All

The family of Army specialist Kham S. Xiong grieves after passing by his photo at the memorial service for the 12 soldiers and one civilian killed at Fort Hood U.S Army Post near Killeen, Texas, USA 10 November 2009. Army Major Malik Nadal Hasan reportedly shot and killed 13 people, 12 soldiers and one civilian, and wounded 30 others in a rampage 05 November at the bases Soldier Readiness Center where deploying and returning soldiers undergo medical screenings.

Fort Hood Memorial Service slideshow


10 posted on 11/21/2009 10:01:42 AM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: dennisw; watchin; VOA; timestax; xJones; justshutupandtakeit; TopDog2; ThomasMore; Publius6961; ...
Islam-list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

11 posted on 11/21/2009 10:03:19 AM PST by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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12 posted on 11/21/2009 10:05:58 AM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Kim, thank you for the ping, and all your hard work.

Did you check out the guidelines on this link before posting. Could that have anything to do with the problem?

Updated FR Excerpt and Link Only or Deny Posting List due to Copyright Complaints

Here is a lengthy story from the Minneapolis Star Tribune :(God bless all the loved ones and friends):

Mourners Grieve at Funerals for some of 13 Soldiers Killed in Fort Hood Shooting Massacre

13 posted on 11/21/2009 10:27:27 AM PST by LucyJo
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To: LucyJo

No, I had taken the source code (in microsoft explorer you click view , then source) directly from the old thread, saved them...then copied and pasted every post that had links, quotes etc.. But the code was modified so much that it would take a few hrs to fix.


14 posted on 11/21/2009 10:49:03 AM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; All

Captain Saralyn Ative (L) comforts Captain Michael Worsley as they wait for the start of the memorial service for the 12 soldiers and one civilian killed at Fort Hood U.S Army Post near Killeen, Texas, USA 10 November 2009.


15 posted on 11/21/2009 11:19:13 AM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

Oh, my! I’m just a novice at codes, but, from the little I do know, I can understand that is quite a chore!


16 posted on 11/21/2009 11:19:19 AM PST by LucyJo
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To: LucyJo

I know that some people use programs to make webpages, I wish I knew how to use those because maybe it would have saved me time..I have no idea. I’m like you, self-taught..just know the basic html to make simple webpages.


17 posted on 11/21/2009 11:22:06 AM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: STARWISE

Thank you so much for adding the memorials Starwise..


18 posted on 11/21/2009 11:40:25 AM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

Same here. I keep saying that I’m going to learn, but never seem to get around to it.


19 posted on 11/21/2009 11:41:30 AM PST by LucyJo
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ORDER is not by date on this post...My apologies if there are duplicates from the old thread.

Fort Hood attacked, November 5th, 2009

“Tragedy at Ft Hood” (This needs EXPOSURE) (Ret Lt Col Allen West)
Excerpt:

"On Thursday, 5 November 2009 Ft Hood became a part of the battlefield in the war against Islamic totalitarianism and state sponsored terrorism.

There may be those who feel threatened by my words and would even recommend they not be uttered. To those individuals I say step aside because now is not the time for cowardice. Our Country has become so paralyzed by political correctness that we have allowed a vile and determined enemy to breach what should be the safest place in America, an Army post.

We have become so politically correct that our media is more concerned about the stress of the shooter, Major Nidal Malik Hasan. The misplaced benevolence intending to portray him as a victim is despicable. The fact that there are some who have now created an entire new classification called; “pre-virtual vicarious Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD)” is unconscionable.

This is not a “man caused disaster”. It is what it is, an Islamic jihadist attack. "


20 posted on 11/21/2009 11:42:50 AM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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21 posted on 11/21/2009 12:10:47 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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22 posted on 11/21/2009 1:43:13 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

Kim, this is exceptional and we cannot thank you enough for your dedication to showcasing and saving all the reporting on this terrible, unthinkable Second 9/11 on our country. God Bless Our Troops.


23 posted on 11/21/2009 2:13:35 PM PST by La Enchiladita (God help us. Pray for America.)
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To: STARWISE

This photo says so much, touches my heart, and as always your work is beautiful.


24 posted on 11/21/2009 2:23:05 PM PST by La Enchiladita (God help us. Pray for America.)
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To: La Enchiladita

I felt bad I couldn’t work on it this past week, but I had no choice. I however do very much appreciate your fallen soldiers thread, thank YOU for doing that. When I link about individual fallen soldiers etc, I’ll put the link to their threads at the top of my posts...so you can look in the future to see if there are any you might have missed.


25 posted on 11/21/2009 2:23:21 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: STARWISE

This photo says so much, touches my heart, and as always your work is beautiful.


26 posted on 11/21/2009 2:23:46 PM PST by La Enchiladita (God help us. Pray for America.)
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To: La Enchiladita

You should use it for your thread too....


27 posted on 11/21/2009 2:24:48 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

Excellent Kim! That is some work! Thanks for the heads up.


28 posted on 11/21/2009 3:36:27 PM PST by amom (Proud mom of a US Army tanker)
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To: spookie; STARWISE; LucyT; MestaMachine

I have been trying to find the thread for the past 30 minutes that proved the pic was out of context, his hand was over his heart, he had removed it a few seconds early. The discussion also included information about a pic from memorial day or veterans day and getting it confused with the ceremony. While I DON’T wish to defend him, I do not like us getting duped. I could kick myself for not bookmarking it. The information about that hand over heart is not show in the title, making it even worse to try to find. I give up. :-p


29 posted on 11/21/2009 3:50:15 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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Purple Hearts proposed for Fort Hood victims (11-17-09)
"Military victims of the Fort Hood massacre will be eligible to receive the Purple Heart if Congress passes a bill introduced Tuesday. "
30 posted on 11/21/2009 5:32:19 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: La Enchiladita

Aww .. it’s so so sad ... the hearts broken,
the lives destroyed ... needlessly.


31 posted on 11/21/2009 5:50:01 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

Welcome .. ;)


32 posted on 11/21/2009 5:51:44 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Statement of Lt. Col. Allen West about Ft. Hood Shootings
33 posted on 11/21/2009 6:00:50 PM PST by LucyJo
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34 posted on 11/21/2009 6:15:59 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: spookie; 444Flyer; MestaMachine; All
Search engines are great! I found a related thread A HECK OF A LOT FASTER than what I tried earlier.

DON'T WANT US DUPED AGAIN~
Obama DID Have His Hand On His Heart On Memorial Day (Photo Was Misleading)
"...Look at 2:33-2:37 the video clearly shows he does have hand on heart and then the camera pans away. Camera returns at 2:56 and Obama still has hand on heart till 2:59 when camera pans away again. ..."

Obama Memorial Day Speech 2009 Part 2
you tube

35 posted on 11/21/2009 6:40:27 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: Nachum

New Thread...


36 posted on 11/21/2009 6:40:51 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: votemout

Welcome to FreeRepublic..see post #35 There are pictures with his hand over his heart too.


37 posted on 11/21/2009 6:45:59 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

Thanx and thanx


38 posted on 11/21/2009 6:48:00 PM PST by votemout
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Forgot to ping you, here’s the new thread.


39 posted on 11/21/2009 7:19:33 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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40 posted on 11/22/2009 2:37:23 AM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

SUDDEN JIHAD SYNDROME IN AMERICA: Documented cases since 911
JEFFHEAD.COM - Suddden Jihad Syndrome in America
November 22, 2009 | Jeff Head

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2392197/posts?page=1


41 posted on 11/22/2009 1:09:22 PM PST by amom (Proud mom of a US Army tanker)
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To: amom

Pentagon Convenes Fort Hood Shooting Task Force
American Forces Press Service ^ | Sgt. 1st Class Michael J. Carden, USA
Posted on Monday, November 23, 2009 3:42:52 PM by SandRat
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2392991/posts


42 posted on 11/23/2009 3:53:53 PM PST by amom (Proud Blue Star mom of a US Army tanker)
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To: amom

from link at post 42...”...West and Clark met with their staff, which consists of representatives from each of the military services, for the first time today. They are: Army Gen. Carter F. Ham, U.S. Army Europe and Seventh Army commander; Navy Vice Adm. Michael C. Vitale, commander of Navy Installations Command; Air Force Lt. Gen. Richard Y. Newton III, Air Force deputy chief of staff for manpower and personnel; and Marine Corps Lt. Gen. Willie J. Williams, director of the Marine Corps staff...”


43 posted on 11/23/2009 3:58:57 PM PST by amom (Proud Blue Star mom of a US Army tanker)
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44 posted on 11/27/2009 11:32:32 AM PST by Freedom2specul8 (The 1st Thanksgiving was to THANK GOD, not the govt. Thats my story..I'm sticking to it:Mestamachine)
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Pray for our American Heroes

Pray For Our American Heroes



45 posted on 11/27/2009 12:15:50 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (The 1st Thanksgiving was to THANK GOD, not the govt. Thats my story..I'm sticking to it:Mestamachine)
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Bing News search results for Fort Hood

Bing News

46 posted on 11/27/2009 12:25:56 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (The 1st Thanksgiving was to THANK GOD, not the govt. Thats my story..I'm sticking to it:Mestamachine)
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Fort Hood soldier returns home to Wis.
"(I'm) definitely coming to terms with it now, but with it's not easy," Moxon said.
47 posted on 11/27/2009 12:34:21 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (The 1st Thanksgiving was to THANK GOD, not the govt. Thats my story..I'm sticking to it:Mestamachine)
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48 posted on 11/27/2009 2:24:11 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (The 1st Thanksgiving was to THANK GOD, not the govt. Thats my story..I'm sticking to it:Mestamachine)
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Forgot to mention that Travis McGee found the cartoon ...
49 posted on 11/27/2009 2:34:43 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (The 1st Thanksgiving was to THANK GOD, not the govt. Thats my story..I'm sticking to it:Mestamachine)
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From 444FLYER


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2393662/posts?page=446#446

“Navy Seal Marcus Luttrell Reports: How Liberals Think in War”

July 3, 2007 | By Jack Yoest

The only time a manager should shout or bark out an order demanding instant obedience is if the building is on fire: an emergency.

Navy Seal Marcus Luttrell had a few minutes to make a decision and decided to take a vote. It wasn’t an emergency, just yet.

(Get the whole story
Marcus Luttrell:
Lone Survivor)

“It was the stupidest, most southern-fried, lamebrained decision I ever made in my life,” Luttrell writes. “I must have been out of my mind. I had actually cast a vote which I knew could sign our death warrant. I’d turned into a (expletive) liberal, a half-assed, no-logic nitwit, all heart, no brain, and the judgment of a jack rabbit.”

Marcus Luttrell tells his story in Lone Survivor and is reported in A war hero from Huntsville rues a decision made in Afghanistan, By FRITZ LANHAM in the Houston Chronicle,

In June 2005, on a barren mountain high in the Taliban-infested Hindu Kush, Luttrell and three fellow Navy SEALs came together to talk.
Their mission — to locate and possibly take out an important Taliban leader hiding in the Afghan village below — had just been compromised.
Three goatherds, one a boy of about 14, had blundered onto their position.

Military discipline is the prompt obediance to orders or the initiation of appropiate action in the absence of orders. In the absence of clear rules of engagement, Marcus Luttrell was on his own. Which is what military officers and civilian managers expect — to make decisions on minimal information.

As they saw it, they had two options: kill the Afghans, or let them go and hope for the best. They let them go.
It’s a decision Luttrell bitterly regrets.

Marcus Luttrell made the decision balancing a possible murder charge — which would have been demanded by the main stream media — with the American lives for which he was responsible.

Within hours, more than 100 Taliban fighters descended on the SEAL team. In the terrible gun battle that followed, Murphy, Axelson and Dietz died. A few miles away, a Taliban grenade brought down a rescue helicopter on its way to help the trapped men, killing all 16 aboard. It was the worst day in the 40-year history of the Navy SEALs.
Marcus Luttrell made the wrong decision. He was thinking like a liberal instead of a military officer.

He reports that Axelson favored killing the goatherds. Dietz was neutral. Murphy and Luttrell voted to let them go.
In war every death of a military service member is a public event. Liberal influence has made difficult decisions nearly impossible to get right. Liberals have put our military in a no-win situation.

Losing is what liberals seem to want.

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50 posted on 11/27/2009 5:59:24 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (The 1st Thanksgiving was to THANK GOD, not the govt. Thats my story..I'm sticking to it:Mestamachine)
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