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Religious Leaders Call for Civil Disobedience if Laws Donít Respect Faith
NewsMax ^ | Nov 21, 2009

Posted on 11/22/2009 3:08:18 PM PST by Jim Robinson

A formidable coalition of 150 Catholic, Orthodox and evangelical leaders are calling on Christians in a new manifesto to reject secular authority – and even engage in civil disobedience – if laws force them to accept abortion, same-sex marriage and other ideas that betray their religious beliefs.

On Friday, these leaders released a 4,700-word document – called the "The Manhattan Declaration: A Call of Christian Conscience."

The document was signed by leaders ranging from evangelical leader Chuck Colson to two of the leading Catholic prelates in the U.S., Archbishop Donald Wuerl of Washington, D.C. and Archbishop Timothy Dolan of New York, and calls on Christians to engage in civil disobedience to defend their doctrines.

The document also blasts the Obama administration, saying that social ills have grown since the election of President Obama, an abortion rights advocate, along with an erosion of what it calls "marriage culture" with the rise of divorce, greater acceptance of infidelity and the uncoupling of marriage from childbearing.

Colson says the project is aimed at instilling social conservative beliefs in a new generation of believers.

"We argue that there is a hierarchy of issues," he told The New York Times. "A lot of younger evangelicals say they're all alike. We're hoping to educate them that these are the three most important issues" – abortion marriage and religious liberty.

"We are Orthodox, Catholic, and evangelical Christians who have united at this hour to reaffirm fundamental truths about justice and the common good, and to call upon our fellow citizens, believers and non-believers alike, to join us in defending them," says the declaration, which was drafted by Colson, an evangelical, and Princeton University professor Robert P. George, a Roman Catholic.

The declaration lists the "fundamental truths" as the "sanctity of human life, the dignity of marriage...

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


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1 posted on 11/22/2009 3:08:19 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

Count me in.


2 posted on 11/22/2009 3:09:50 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% white, 50% black, 100% red)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m already in.
Spread the word.


3 posted on 11/22/2009 3:10:04 PM PST by humantech ("No one wants to live to see such evil times. Its what you do with the time you are given")
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To: Jim Robinson

Related kind of

Bishop bars Patrick Kennedy from Communion over abortion

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/11/22/kennedy.abortion/index.html


4 posted on 11/22/2009 3:11:38 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: Jim Robinson

I am too

All it takes is one of me to shut down a three state region.


5 posted on 11/22/2009 3:12:12 PM PST by dila813
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To: Jim Robinson
The Barmen Declaration

See just how much good it did for the Germans.

6 posted on 11/22/2009 3:12:23 PM PST by Publius (Do you want the people who run Amtrak to take out your appendix?)
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To: Jim Robinson

Its about time.


7 posted on 11/22/2009 3:12:45 PM PST by svcw (The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves. GW)
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To: Jim Robinson

Interesting. I wonder if these are the same religious leaders pushing ‘compassionate amnesty’.


8 posted on 11/22/2009 3:13:37 PM PST by Kimberly GG ((Come On Sarah - NO PATH TO CITIZENSHIP & ATTRITION THROUGH ENFORCEMENT))
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To: Jim Robinson

Hey, hey, HEY!

Only White House associates can bomb the Pentagon, attain virtually worthless doctorate degrees (or in some cases just drop out) , and advise the Kenyan Klod.

You religious types even think of saying a word about disobeying the law and we’ll take you down.


10 posted on 11/22/2009 3:15:33 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Jim Robinson

Count me in, as well.


11 posted on 11/22/2009 3:16:20 PM PST by rae4palin
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To: Jim Robinson

I am in. Tell me where and when.


12 posted on 11/22/2009 3:16:27 PM PST by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Now this is good news. When will political leaders rise up and say the same about Our Constitution, the law of the land....and even engage in civil disobedience – if laws force them to accept...
13 posted on 11/22/2009 3:17:04 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Jim Robinson

The time has come ...


15 posted on 11/22/2009 3:17:54 PM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: svcw

We can expect o-bow-man to soon declare marital allowing, or demanding, that the military arrest American citizens that oppose him in any way.


16 posted on 11/22/2009 3:19:14 PM PST by chiefqc
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To: Jim Robinson

Count me in, too.


17 posted on 11/22/2009 3:19:51 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Morgana

Maybe Raymond Arroyo could get a campaign going for that too

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/catholic-tv-host-challenges-bishops/


18 posted on 11/22/2009 3:20:14 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: Jim Robinson

Perhaps now Churches can see the dangers of colluding with liberals on “social” issues. Liberals are NO friends of religion. One only has to pick up a history book.


19 posted on 11/22/2009 3:21:37 PM PST by rbosque (10 year Freeper!)
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To: Da Coyote
You religious types

Religious types are a dime a dozen - there is one in a hospital in TX. This is about the God of the Bible - the laws of the Creator of the universe. His rules reign!
20 posted on 11/22/2009 3:22:11 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: rbosque
Liberals are NO friends of religion.

Unless you're a Muslim or a Unitarian...

21 posted on 11/22/2009 3:24:02 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: FromLori
I'll say. Not many envelopes going into the collection plate for CCHD today.

Most of us are regular watchers of EWTN in our parish.

22 posted on 11/22/2009 3:24:12 PM PST by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: Morgana
I am upset!

What till she gets wind of this and how Kennedy is being denied communion - she'll be upset - she, hopefully, is next!
23 posted on 11/22/2009 3:25:44 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: EternalVigilance

A heads up PING to another thread about the Manhattan Declaration, this time posted by Jim Robinson.


24 posted on 11/22/2009 3:26:07 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: Jim Robinson

Jesus told His followers to do that....... NOT!


25 posted on 11/22/2009 3:26:11 PM PST by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: mware

I had plenty of people tell me they were going to use those coupons. As with everything it seems if you hit them in the pocketbook they will soon get the message.


26 posted on 11/22/2009 3:26:46 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: Morgana
I am not sure but I have not heard of Nancy receiving communion since meeting with B16.
27 posted on 11/22/2009 3:26:55 PM PST by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: buccaneer81

Good point!


28 posted on 11/22/2009 3:27:59 PM PST by rbosque (10 year Freeper!)
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To: Jim Robinson

bttt


29 posted on 11/22/2009 3:31:57 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: chiefqc

Yep.
Thats been expected for 2000 years....


30 posted on 11/22/2009 3:33:33 PM PST by humantech ("No one wants to live to see such evil times. Its what you do with the time you are given")
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To: Jim Robinson
I have three personal days coming to me.

Think I will save them for the March for Life in Washington. Sounds like that will be our first chance to get to DC(usually held on Jan 20th/21.)

How appropriate the one year anniversary of Obama's administration.

32 posted on 11/22/2009 3:36:10 PM PST by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: mware

bump for later


33 posted on 11/22/2009 3:39:32 PM PST by Raven6 (The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Lock and load time.....so to speak.


34 posted on 11/22/2009 3:42:43 PM PST by Viking2002
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To: 43north; humantech

Everybody should go and sign this. Go to the page and read the statement - it’s great - and then you can sign it. There are already thousands of people who have signed. Last night, I actually couldn’t sign it because so many people had gotten to the site before me that all the bandspace was in use!


35 posted on 11/22/2009 3:46:13 PM PST by livius
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m in too.


36 posted on 11/22/2009 3:49:02 PM PST by GAB-1955 (I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Finally, some leadership!

Let this be the spark the ignites a conflagration of resistance.

I'm in!

37 posted on 11/22/2009 3:51:49 PM PST by behzinlea
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To: Jim Robinson

Now would be the perfect time for them to tell their congegations to take a month off if they can afford it. Start the planning now to stock up on supplies and money. It would bring the government to it’s knees if 3/4’s of the religious in this country didn’t pay income taxes for 30 days!


38 posted on 11/22/2009 3:52:07 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: Jim Robinson

Civil disobedience will occur for reasons other than those mentioned in the article. First and foremost is the fact any federal version of health care is unconstitutional since Article 1 Section 8 does not specifically nor expressly grant Congress the power to regulate health care. The people are not required to abide by any unconstitutional act passed by Congress.


39 posted on 11/22/2009 3:52:41 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: MrLee

Do what? We are supposed to resist evil, not give our blessing to it. Caesar has his place, but once he tries to impose on our conscience, he has overstepped his limits. And making us pay for or do things that violate our conscience is overstepping those limits.

Jesus never told us to take up arms and attack, and this statement is not telling us to do so, either. While we can defend ourselves with arms, as I think we will end up having to do, civil disobedience probably means many of us will be martyred - which to a Christian, means dying, not killing others.

But God always wins in the end and in terrible times we have to do what we can and remember that. I guess I just never thought I’d be living in these times, though; probably few of us did.


40 posted on 11/22/2009 3:55:10 PM PST by livius
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To: Jim Robinson

hmmm... i cannot pay my taxes because doing so would be a violation of my beliefs and everything i believe in

that ought to make the dems squirm


41 posted on 11/22/2009 3:55:10 PM PST by sten
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To: Jim Robinson

Wow, call me shocked!

It’s about damned time!

I’ve been biting my nails to nothing waiting for the Christian’s to find the clutch and a working gear.

Christian’s having been beaten bloody and have turned the other cheek far too often of late—to the point of self-destruction, I dare say.

I hope they mean what they say.

I will certainly be there with you all.


42 posted on 11/22/2009 3:57:09 PM PST by Boucheau
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To: Jim Robinson; Kathy in Alaska

WOW!!!

Kathy... Ping!


43 posted on 11/22/2009 3:57:21 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (BG x 2 (and a heartbeat was heard today....))
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To: Jim Robinson

I will be watching for opportunities to participate.


44 posted on 11/22/2009 3:58:17 PM PST by Bahbah (Only dead fish go with the flow)
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To: Jim Robinson

Signed it this morning.


45 posted on 11/22/2009 3:58:50 PM PST by sonrise57 (Help us God for evil men have surrounded us.)
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To: Jim Robinson; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.

Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

46 posted on 11/22/2009 3:59:27 PM PST by narses ("These are the days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed except his own.")
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To: Kimberly GG

Not all of them. Heard one mention this morning that he signed it. Don’t think he’d approve of the illegality of amnesty.


47 posted on 11/22/2009 3:59:34 PM PST by madison10 (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: Jim Robinson

This should be an axiom. According to the Bible, we have an -obligation- to disobey. We cannot bow to their idols, even if it means death.

In the words of Martin Luther, “Here I stand; I can do no other.” It’s one thing to say it but we all may soon be put to the test.

I like the tea parties but if it comes down to being an accomplice to murder and other sins, we may soon get to the point where we have to go beyond symbolism and enclose tea bags in lieu of a check with our W-2s.

Publius321
http://www.tableofwisdom.com


48 posted on 11/22/2009 4:01:01 PM PST by publius321
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To: sonrise57

Got a link???


49 posted on 11/22/2009 4:01:13 PM PST by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: Morgana
you got it...
50 posted on 11/22/2009 4:02:48 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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