Skip to comments.Recycling centers close, eliminating 'green' jobs
Posted on 11/30/2009 5:16:32 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
Reporting from Sacramento - Recycling centers across California are closing, and scores of troubled youths are being tossed from "green" jobs onto unemployment rolls in the wake of Sacramento's raid on bottle deposit funds.
California's recycling treasury, filled by consumers' nickel and dime deposits on drink containers, had hummed along successfully for two decades until state officials left it nearly bankrupt after taking $451 million out to help balance the budget.
The unredeemed deposits that subsidized recycling facilities and such projects as a local conservation corps are virtually gone, leaving the programs in the lurch.
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Any job that pays you “green” is a green job. The problem is that Nobama and his minions are eliminating such green jobs from the economy. They are either economic morons or marxists!
GOSH! Now that the purpose for the fees collected by the retailers is gone, I’m sure the State will eliminate that cost as unnecessary.
..no either, moronic marxists
We have one of those recycling set-ups locally that is busy trying to get more firmly locked on to the public tit. We’re watching them closely.
Looks like CA learned well from the Feds. Once they got their hooks into the revenue flow, the money mysteriously became theirs to do with as they pleased.
Feds did the same thing to Social Security (despite it being an anti-Constitutional program to begin with)...
It’s time to take back the country.
I’d always thought recycling was a good thing to do because of the indoctrination I received in public schools, but just this weekend I was reading The Politically Incorrect Guide to Capitalism, and the author explained how it was basically an enormous waste of money because the recycled materials aren’t worth anything close to what it costs to recycle them. It’s a good book—I recommend it.
The correct solution in a word...Gasification.
In the end, they throw the recyclables back in with the rest of the trash, except for the newspapers, which were already recycled long before green mania (I would go with my pals door-to-door to collect newspapers for cash for our baseball team way back in 1960)
Whenever government sticks its hands into any business it destroys the business.
But, but, but it saves so much money!
Actually, if the just enforced a couple of rules at these “green jobs”, the “workers” WOULD have received some valuable training that they lacked.
* Getting to work on time and staying until the end of the day
* Getting along with fellow workers
* Submitting to authority
Most of these “at risk youth” don’t have these basic skills required to hold any sort of job.
Our township still makes us separate cans and bottles. Past studies in Scandinavia proved there was no savings, but they were totally ignored.
Ten years ago, I was griping about having to wash out used food cans and the woman I was with told me:”It makes me feel better about myself.”
That's the "hokey-pokey" of it.
The other night, we were watching a movie and my lib-in-law loudly questioned "where are the black people". When I asked why certain group representation in a movie was so important to her, she replied that it makes her feel good about herself to champion the minority.
No laughing matter for those losing their jobs, but the irony is delicious!!
California, the Queen of the nanny states and home to the nation’s biggest group of enviroweenies and leftists, is also the home of a massive deficit!
Some days, you just don’t know whether to laugh or cry.
It doesn’t save anything, never has never will. They hype that shows that it takes less fuel to start with recylables rather than raw materials, neglects to include the cost of collection.
It depends on the material and how much cost is involved in getting it to the processing facility.
Here in NH most towns outside of Nashua, Manchester and Concord do not have municipal trash pickup. Most people like me take their trash to the local transfer station. Our towns is at the location of the former landfill that has been closed for years. We voluntarily recycle in our town. Therefore, with the exception of the salary for the four employees of the tranfer station , the only other cost is trucking and electricity.
So, we actually make money on aluminum( we do not have a bottle bill in NH). It costs less money to haul away newspaper & magazines, bottles and cans , cardboard and clean mixed paper than just mixed trash. The most expensive thing to dispose of is construction debris such as drywall, plywood. We also recycle leaves and brush which is ground up and turned into mulch.
Therefore, the problem with other recycling operations is that too many people handle it.
The recycling plants, where trash is resorted and dumpsters washed, are often located near minimum security corrections facilities, allowing the inmates to earn enough to pay for their incarceration.
A few years ago, one of the local PhD psyches mentioned that he has a lot of art student clients, most of whom were placed in therapy by parents who didn't want to see the insurance coverage for mental health "go to waste." Uniformly, the art students told him that they wanted to work with recyclable material. At the time, the media was full of articles lauding various product lines that began with discarded materials.
I have noticed fewer of these articles in the past few years.
In the beginning, the most common justification for recycling was that it saves landfill space. This was during the 1980’s when we were carpet bombed with scary stories about landfill capacity and garbage barges.
Ask yourself: how long has it been since you read a national news story about landfill capacity? I’d bet at least 15 years. Like so many other things, it was simply the environmental alarm du jour.
She might want to consider plugging the tub during her two-minute shower and reuse the water to wash the cans. She'd feel even better.
I’m rural enough to not even have it! :)
What I don’t like are the silly games they play with some of this. Years ago, you could sell car/truck batteries at the junkyard. There were guys that even came around to collect them. Now you have to pay a disposal fee every time you buy a new one.
Duh.... the same Big Gov type geniuses that run the Postal Service, DMV and so on.... same result.
Everything else is consumer-driven feelgoodism. And frankly, those feel-good dollars that pay a premium for "25% Post-Consumer Napkins" dry up real quick.
Have had the Post Office discussion elswhere already this morning. LOL
You can always tell which stuff is worth the time to recycle because people will pay you to take it (which currently pretty much means it’s metal). Anything the government needs to cajole you into recycling belongs in the dump.
One of the most reliable and unbiased indicators of how many resources something consumes, how green it is, is its price. If a city starts a recycling program and everyone's garbage bill doubles, about twice as many resources are being consumed than before, and the environment is worse off.