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Posted on 12/03/2009 1:38:50 AM PST by MestaMachine
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But I can see your point and strategy.
I have always enjoyed FR because it states up front we are an INDEPENDENDENT CONSERVATIVE forum. Which is good. Defacto we may be with the Republicans 90% of the time, it is good they NEVER consider us automatically in their back pocket, particularly when their RINOs run roughshod over us, year in and year our, year in and year out. Just about had enough, is what I'm talkin' about.
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You came on OUR activism thread telling us, including JimRob who started this project, how wrong we are and you want to call the shots? Not how it works.
As I said, we're fed up with the Rino lovers. Indeed, you keep trying what doesn't work and we'll try something new.
You are welcome to go disrupt and disagree elsewhere.
Ping! Bump! And Reprint
I dont know who I left out in the reply field because I have to type this from my phone. There are so many people I want to hear from about this..
Ping whoever you think can help get this sorted out.
All negative personal comments and attacks aside...
The truth is, our country is going through a major change (overhaul) in its political and social mindset. Its a new world...
What is happening here and now is the result of so many factors we cant even name them all. While the clinton era (my era/generations awakening) triggered emotional debate 9/11 started the change in mindset..we will never be the same again because of it. Now we expect more out of our so called leaders then we are getting, and the so-called leaders are using political correctness as a weapon against us...and its failing big time.
Corruption is being exposed, people are screaming for truth, justice and the ultimate goal-a fix. Not a bandaid. To attempt to squash freedom of speech by telling people to not write letters is what the powers that be want.
This makes me sick...people have woke up, are speaking out and here we have people telling us that writing letters (historical physical evidence of discord, displeasure and anger) is a worthless venture. You might as well tell people to go back to sleep. I dont see the naysayers offering an alternative, a better way to unite the angry voters.
I will never stand with anyone who attempts to suppress protests against socialism etc..
Ive also read that writing letters doesnt fix anything. Its called a societal pressure relief valve also known as venting. Its a heck of a lot better than screaming at the talking heads on cnn, msnbc and paper media from our livingrooms.
Regardless, this is the first step...voice and Analyze the problem. If true conservatives do not step up to the plate and respond to our loud cries within the rnc...the next step is to work with a different party.
Ill get off my soap box, let yall take over the debate. Besides, my thumbs are getting numb.
B U M P
Thanks Kim! That was great! Right on the money!
Suppression of Free Speech
Denial of attempts for redress of grievances
Scare tactics about how we vote...is that some kind of voter suppression or disenfranchisement attempts.
A few days ago when I was more or less told...the RNC leadership was not optional #174...I blew through my duct tape. Then they tried to ridicule me off the thread for saying we overturned a 200 year old county government...let's just say it is suppression of some kind.
When asked to present their answer, it is the same old tired tactics that have failed. Failed us, failed the party, and failed the Nation. Yet, like Rupub-obots, they refuse to acknowledge another course of action. The blind allegiance to “the party” is frightening.
We have declared our emancipation from party politics at the beginning of this thread. We have acknowledged “the party” in this thread and been subjected to their hostile fire and internet bullying, it is time for us to fully pickup our bayonets as Allen West said, and CHARGE.
Ain’t that the truth. One has to wonder why they are trying to silence disagreement with “politics as usual”. All the dire warnings of disaster if we write letters is a little over the top. Disrupters? Party plants? Who knows. It doesn’t matter. We won’t be silenced.
Yes, you have and doing a bang-up job!! Between you and Kim, the energy and *good vibes* come through the computer screen.
Here is my first reply to you:
“This is really great but I am too wrapped up with getting the healthcare bill defeated now. Shouldnt we be contacting Democrat senators and making our wishes clear? Once this bill is dead, then we could concentrate on the RNC.
I am afraid of what will happen if this bill passes. Having a Conservative majority may not be enough to save the country.
The Rs in the Senate are working hard but they lack the numbers to do what is necessary. Some of the Ds must be feeling the heat from their constituents. Couldnt we help them get the message, bigtime?”
Since your reading comprehension is questionable, let me make this simple for you.
“This is really great...” means I think your idea is a good one.
After going back and reading the whole thread, I see there are others, like me, who have been contacting the RNC for a long time, and have seen the results quite clearly. I realize that it may be new to you, however, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING NEW.
It is of concern that they ignore a 30 year contributor and there must be hundreds of thousands of us! (I haven’t given a cent to the Party since 2005. I prefer to support individual conservative candidates and will continue.) Personal letters from Mr. Steele and prominent Party leaders, get a prompt reply with the same message that you espoused. THIS IS NOT NEW.
Being whiny, defensive, and accusatory is very unbecoming and makes it difficult to gain followers. We need as many participants as possible.
Get off your highhorse and do whatever you think is best. Leave those of us who have been where you are now, alone.
Have a nice day.
Numbers matter. A deluge is better than a trickle.
Leave those of us who have been where you are now, alone.
You came on our activism thread. We responded. You're too busy to write. Ok. Don't. Some of us can multitask. Every citizen has the right to do what they believe is necessary. And we will whether you agree it or not.
Have a peaceful weekend.
“And WHY, in my so-called ignorance might I ask, would you “object if we improve that reputation to become a serious political force to be reckoned with?”
You're not improving it you're reinforcing it.
“See, I dont understand why you seem to have it in for everything Jim Robinson is for.”
Jim and I are for the same thing, we just have different strategies.
“Dont you want Free Republic to be more than YOU claim it is? And IF not, WHY not?”
That day has come and gone. A long time ago if you mentioned to people in DC that you were from FR they would say “You're from FR? Let's work together”. Now they just laugh...not always to you're face.
“THAT is the question.”
Seriously, it isn't.
“Dede Scozzafava was picked because it was her “turn”.”
This proves either you don’t do your due diligence or are incapable of coming to rationale conclusions when presented with factual premise’s.
If you are unable to ascertain the facts in this one isolated incident, how can you be trusted with the big picture and decisions?
She got the nod because it was her "turn"
Maybe you should pay more attention.
So to you “due diligence” is quoting one line from an obscure internet article from an obscure website written by an obscure, small town mayor...and one that comes off as nothing more than a rant?
This is exactly what I talk about. You don’t care to know the facts, appearances are all you need to know the “truth” because you’ve already decided what the “truth” is and are now flailing away looking for any tidbits out there to bolster that belief and contrary evidence be damned.
Here;s another example of your Shoot! Ready! Aim! mentality. You ask people to write a letter then copy it ten times (WTF?) and send it to the RNC. How about 2 of those letters going to the NRSC and NRCC? Do you even know what those are?
Yeah. I'm sure the locals in NY23 are clueless and you know more about their area than they do.
You're a hoot dude. Egotistical and clueless.
Have a nice weekend! :-)
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I am a (member/visitor/friend) of FreeRepublic.com, a non-commercial Conservative website which is "...a political discussion forum and independent grassroots conservative activist group supported by donations from our readers and participants...." (freerepublic.com). I watched the Presidential election with interest. I have watched local, state and federal elections with interest. I have been extremely disappointed with the candidates you have selected to represent Republicans. I have grown weary of candidates who have chosen to ignore conservative ideals, principles and values. Conservatives want strong candidates who are not afraid to stand against liberal agendas, democrats, and the liberal media. Unless I see a commitment by your Republican representatives to protect and defend conservative principles, and actual evidence (legislation and behaviour) that there is change, I will not send in donations nor will I vote for your candidates. I have no desire to support a political party who does not reflect the core values of Conservatives.
I would like to quote the founder of FreeRepublic.com, all of which can be found here http://www.freerepublic.com/home.htm:
"...In our continuing fight for freedom, for America and our constitution and against totalitarianism, socialism, tyranny, terrorism, etc., Free Republic stands firmly on the side of right, i.e., the conservative side. Believing that the best defense is a strong offense, we (myself and those whom I'm trying to attract to FR) support the strategy of taking the fight to the enemy as opposed to allowing the enemy the luxury of conducting their attacks on us at home on their terms and on their schedule.After reading what your website says (http://www.gop.com/index.php/learn/what_we_believe/), it is very clear that you don't pick candidates who support or defend your belief system let alone the Conservative belief system. As a result, I believe the Republican Party has left the conservatives. There has been growing evidence that many elected officials are not true Conservatives. Instead, we tend to call them RINO's. RINO's are defined as "Republicans In Name Only". I believe the majority if not all Republican candidates and elected officials are RINO's because of their actions and votes in congress.
Therefore, we wholeheartedly support the Bush Doctrine of pre-emptive strikes on known terrorist states and organizations that are believed to present a clear threat to our freedom or national security. We support our military, our troops ... and we oppose turning control of our government back over to the liberals and socialists who favor appeasement, weakness, and subserviency. We do not believe in surrendering to the terrorists as France, Germany, Russia and Spain have done and as Kerry, Kennedy, Clinton and the Democrats, et al, are proposing.
As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-Constitution, pro-Bill of Rights, pro-gun, pro-limited government, pro-private property rights, pro-limited taxes, pro-capitalism, pro-national defense, pro-freedom, and-pro America. We oppose all forms of liberalism, socialism, fascism, pacifism, totalitarianism, anarchism, government enforced atheism, abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, racism, wacko environmentalism, judicial activism, etc. We also oppose the United Nations or any other world government body that may attempt to impose its will or rule over our sovereign nation and sovereign people. We believe in defending our borders, our constitution and our national sovereignty..."
I believe that you are aware of what a RINO is because after completing a quick search on your gop.com website, I noticed quite a few references to RINO's in the search results. I view RINOs as Republicans who claim to be Conservatives, but use their postition to promote, defend and protect liberal ideas, goals, agendas and legislation. While observing past campaigns, I noticed that your candidates use action phrases, slogans and key words that appeal to conservatives, but after they are elected they fail to promote, defend and protect the Conservative platform. You have compromised without a fight for far too long. This is completely unacceptable.
In conclusion, I declare the following:
Whereas ANYONE, who pushes for amnesty for illegal aliens is a RINO
Whereas ANYONE, who pushes for cap-and-trade is a RINO
Whereas ANYONE, who pushes for Romneycare, Obamacare, Medicare Part D, or any of the other un-Constitutional Federal health care schemes is a RINO
Whereas ANYONE, who pushes for Federal control over education is a RINO
Whereas ANYONE, who pushes for Federal take-over is a RINO
Whereas ANYONE, who is unwilling to repeal Roe v. Wade is a RINO
Whereas Anyone who pushes abortion is a RINO
Whereas ANYONE who fails to investigate and prosecute those who are involved in corruption is a RINO
Whereas ANYONE, who pushes for Big Government bailouts, takeovers, and stimulus give-aways is a RINO
Whereas ANYONE who pushes gay marriage is a RINO
Whereas ANYONE who refuses to defend our nation is a RINO
Whereas ANYONE who refuses to secure our nation is a RINO
Whereas ANYONE who refuses to secure our borders is a RINO
Whereas ANYONE who fails to secure our God-given unalienable rights is a RINO
Whereas ANYONE who fails to abide by the constitution is a RINO
And will not be supported by Conservatives.
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Mesta, Your post reminded me of some things I had forgotten about... There will always be some who trash activism...and it shouldn’t bother you bob if the DC RINOS are “laughing”...remember when hannity use to frequent here, and then quit? Is he a rino pusher or is glenn beck the new man in town. Which one is actually doing something?
Bob J is an annoyance to be ignored.
Go man go!
Took me 8 minutes to ...
2) find envelopes
6) return address
Will send next time I leave house.
Thank you for organizing us! Can’t wait to see your next!
Thank you, ROTB. Has been a glorious day. We got a beautiful fresh TON of snow. I wished for snow yesterday, and when I looked out this morning, there it was in all its pristine beauty and I just said, “Thank You, GOD,” as I ran to get the baby dressed in her snowsuit and new fur-lined Mukluks for the first time.
I am composing my own letter and will have the draft done so that when my stationery gets here, I can write it out. Then I am going to copy it and send a copy to my State GOP, my local GOP, and anyone else I can think of who needs to be put on notice.
Hope you didn’t forget to mention Free Republic. If you didn’t put it on the inside, can I suggest that anyone sending letters from now on, add Free Republic under their name on their return address.
BTW, ONE of those flyers is going to be put up in a very prominent place in my LOCAL GOP headquarters.
One of our REPUBLICAN County Commissioners, who I HELPED elect owns a major resort hotel here. He is a friend of mine and said I can post one at the hotel in the entrance to the front lobby.
(He is what someone else on this thread, who shall remain nameless, might call a “well heeled” and VERY wealthy individual,” who happens to agree wholeheartedly with what we are doing.) Snark, snark.
ALSO, talked today to one of the leading resort home real estate sellers in my area, and was given permission to use their bulletin board where they put up some of their better listings. Most of the people who walk into that office, which is very plush with a wall to wall stone fireplace, (today with a crackling fire lit and some of the best hot chocolate in the world, baby loved it,) are wealthy people looking for mountain retreats which are multimillion dollar homes. More snark.
Got a hold of a friend who owns a huge car dealership in Morgantown, WVA, and he says if I send him a flyer, he will put it up in his main showroom. More snark.
GOD helps those who help themselves....No snark there!
You’re right DJ, it IS best to ignore people ready to pick fights. This is AGAINST our cause. We live, learn and then move on.
Here’s one for ya.
I see that you good folks have been quite busy. Well done and atta’boy!
Movin’ on and movin’ the project. You ought to see how gorgeous it is out with the almost full moon on the snow. I think it’s one of those “favorite things,” like the old song.
I am thinking of putting a FR/RNC mailbag in our party headquarters, maybe elsewhere too, and when they are filled, maybe organizing a caravan and delivering it to the DC office right before the Christmas holiday with camera in hand. Looking at 444’s pics gave me the idea. The more I looked at that pic, the more the idea grew. Anywhere you guys can think of that might be a good place to do the same?
There are at best maybe a dozen people left on this forum who can reliably discuss my activities on it and for it dating back to ‘97 and whomever your “unnamed sources” are are not one of them. You're “secret pics I can't post” smack of the same kind of character assassination by innuendo the MSM engages in daily.
Congratulations, you have now become as despicable as them.
I don't got a dog in this fight so you and your insane posse should just go ahead and knock yourself out.
BTW - I doubt you have the awareness and knowledge to get the “insane posse” reference as well.
That should be “insane clown posse”.
I KNOW you are not assuming that the rest of us are 'rearching' your history. While I have replied to your posts, that DOES NOT MEAN I have an interest in looking into your history. This is about GETTING RINOS OUT OF CONGRESS, and I would think you would be ON the bandwagon. This is not about BOB.....this is about supporting the tea parties, and not letting people forget what this fight is about.
The insane clown posse is a vulgar, foul mouthed nasty rock group.....
... otherwise known as "The Keating Five." ;)
Thank you. I just don’t understand any of this. I decided I don’t care. This is a good project. It isn’t about any single one person. RINOS must be stopped any way we can do it. That is why this project started in the first place.
Naysayers can naysay. Sometimes you can even learn from what they say. So I am not going to be goaded into turning this into a food fight. It’s childish.
Onward and upward.
You know what...years ago, we took our daughter and a few of her friends to a haunted house for halloween. As we stood in line, these guys and gals were passing out promotional cd’s with the insane clown posse on them. (their tour van was in front of the haunted house) After we left, we put the CD in the stereo, and the 3 or 4th word started with F and ended with K. I was mortified because all the girls heard it. Granted, I KNOW the girls were 15 and have heard the word. But still, SHEESH.... nasty insult this one is.
I thought it was MXXain, Snowe, Collins, Graham, and Specter. Now THERE is an insane clown posse.
go chiefs-- I'm not a football fan. It's boring. College football is fun to watch though, once in a while.
obama, biden, pelosi, and reid. My hubby calls pelosi nasty pelosi...
Bob J, I know who they are. And it’s best left alone.
We’re done conversing. We hope that your weekend is peaceful and constructive.
That should be insane clown posse.
Long time since I’ve seen or even thought of that bunch. I guess they are on to other bigger and better things now days.
I was just informed of “who” he was referring. Learn something every day.
My wife routinely refers to her as "Skeletor." ;)
Some intrepid FReepers researched and found out who the ring leaders were then threatened to out the info on internet...as they had been doing to Jim, me and others for some time.
They closed the site down.