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EDITORIAL: The enemy at West Point--Liberals continue their assault on our armed forces
The Washington Times ^ | December 4, 2009 | Editorial

Posted on 12/03/2009 5:48:07 PM PST by jazusamo

Insults against West Point by MSNBC pundit Chris Matthews are part of a pattern of left-wing denigrations against Americans serving in uniform. It's a motif indicative of an anti-military mind-set that is as dangerous as it is rude.

Discussing the West Point audience's response to President Obama's speech about Afghanistan, Mr. Matthews quipped on Tuesday: "I saw a lot of, if not resentment, skepticism. I didn't see a lot of warmth in that crowd out there that the president chose to address tonight. And I thought that was interesting: He went to maybe the enemy camp tonight to make his case. I mean that was where Paul Wolfowitz used to write speeches back in the old Bush days. That's where he went to rabble-rouse the 'we're going to democratize the world' campaign back in '02. So I think it was a strange venue."

So, when did our brave military cadets become "the enemy camp"? If Mr. Bush or Mr. Wolfowitz went to West Point to "rabble-rouse," does that make the cadets a rabble? And why would it ever be a "strange venue" for any president to go to the U.S. Military Academy to talk about a war?

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: armedforces; bhodod; democrats; durbin; kerry; liberals; matthews; msnbc; murtha; usma

1 posted on 12/03/2009 5:48:10 PM PST by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo
So, when did our brave military cadets become "the enemy camp"?

Wrong question. The cadets never did become the enemy, they're amongst the best, brightest and most loyal to American. It is liberals who have aligned themselves against American and are self identifying themselves as enemies of America.

2 posted on 12/03/2009 5:50:51 PM PST by highlander_UW (To anger a conservative tell him a lie. To anger a liberal tell him the truth.)
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To: jazusamo

well we all know who is outa there first and it ain’t the young talent at West Point. They are here to stay. The enemy is the enemy of them.


3 posted on 12/03/2009 5:51:13 PM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: jazusamo
Make no mistake, Mathews did not just imply the military is an enemy of Obama. He meant the military is an enemy to the left, to democrats, to liberals.

These people hate America and those who defend America.

4 posted on 12/03/2009 5:52:25 PM PST by ryan71 (Smells like a revolution)
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To: highlander_UW
The cadets never did become the enemy, they're amongst the best, brightest and most loyal to American.

Yes they are and always have been.

5 posted on 12/03/2009 5:53:32 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: highlander_UW

The cadets besides being dog tired were sceptical because
the least of them has a better grasp of military strategy
and world politics this, this usurper.

He didn’t come to address them, he came to make a political
speech to placate his supporters for his supposed about
face on “war”.

A pathetic excuse for a president when what we need is
good solid leadership with an eye on the future threats
to our nation and our posterity.


6 posted on 12/03/2009 5:56:25 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: jazusamo

Dear Mr. Chris Matthews,

Did it ever accur to you that they just don’t like him, you dim witted idiot?


7 posted on 12/03/2009 5:56:55 PM PST by Garvin (When it comes to my freedom, there will be no debate. There will be a fight)
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To: jazusamo; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Larry Lucido; ...

Considering the traitorous anti-American politics of Chris Matthews, Obama, the Democrats and the MSM, the “Honor, Duty Country” traditions of West Point makes it the enemy camp to them.


8 posted on 12/03/2009 5:57:11 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: jazusamo

A U.S. Army cadet reads a book entitled "Kill Bin Laden" as he waits with other cadets for U.S. President Barack Obama to deliver an address on U.S. policy and the war in Afghanistan at the U.S. Military Academy in West Point, New York December 1, 2009.

9 posted on 12/03/2009 5:57:24 PM PST by TaxPayer2000 (The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government,)
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To: ryan71

I wish the enemeies of our cadets at West point all lived in the same place. I would like to intrioduce them to imprted Alqaeda opertaives sent t9o libve aong them with thier IEDs. Then perhaps they migh appreciate our military.

The liberal left is dumber than dirt. I long to see them inserted into the conditions that our soldiers must tolerate to defend freedom in the USA and for others around the world.


10 posted on 12/03/2009 5:59:10 PM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (.Member NRA))
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To: TaxPayer2000

Great pic, thanks for posting.


11 posted on 12/03/2009 5:59:53 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
I for one am grateful that the American Left is anti-military. Those sections of the World Left that are not usually create "red armies" that are darn hard to beat.

This may be the first time actual granola-munching hippies have tried to take over a country. North Korea should have been so lucky.

12 posted on 12/03/2009 6:01:44 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Lo' Ya`aqov ye'amer `od shimkha ki-'im Yisra'el; ki sariyta `im-'Eloqim ve`im-'anashim vatukhal.)
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To: highlander_UW

Correct.


13 posted on 12/03/2009 6:01:49 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Bender2

Bump!


14 posted on 12/03/2009 6:02:13 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
"He went to maybe the enemy camp tonight to make his case. I mean that was where Paul Wolfowitz used to write speeches back in the old Bush days. That's where he went to rabble-rouse the 'we're going to democratize the world' campaign back in '02. So I think it was a strange venue."

It's amazing how they let slip their real feelings from time to time.

"enemy camp," indicating that they know from where much opposition will come.
"rabble-rouse," inferring that the military are rabble and beneath them.
"strange venue," indicating the true lack of understanding these, ahem, people have for our country, our values, our way of life, and the sacrifices our service members have made the world over in the name of freedom.

Telling, indeed.

15 posted on 12/03/2009 6:06:09 PM PST by ronnyquest (That's what governments are for: to get in a man's way.)
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To: jazusamo
Matthews is such a mental dwarf. I doubt he uses the right side of his brain simply because it is titled "right".

His comment on West Point was really out of line. I am reminded of "The Caine Mutiny" and tend to think of Barney Greenwald's talk about Captain Queeg he made to the officers of the USS Caine. He speaks of how that while there were going to fancy colleges, working good jobs and generally showboating around, the Captain Queegs were guarding this fat dumb country. For us, the service was not good enough and we knew we could not make any money in the service.

For Mathews, the military is below him and his dignity. I'd like to remind Cris Mathews that he has a lucrative job running his mouth because a bunch of rednecks with a Prussian mentality provided that opportunity.

16 posted on 12/03/2009 6:06:20 PM PST by oyez ( damnant quod non intelligunt)
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To: jazusamo

I’m not military, but can I be counted as rabble, too? Pretty Please?!!!!


17 posted on 12/03/2009 6:06:30 PM PST by bigheadfred (Be who you are and say what you feel: Those who mind don't matter.Those who matter don't mind.)
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To: ronnyquest

All true and so telling.


18 posted on 12/03/2009 6:10:47 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
But ... but .... but .... he apologized. Doesn't that make it alright???? (not) ...
19 posted on 12/03/2009 6:12:34 PM PST by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: oyez

Good analogy. Matthews has no idea what our people in the military go through just as those young officers had no idea what Queeg had been through.


20 posted on 12/03/2009 6:13:37 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: bigheadfred

You bet, Fred! :-)


21 posted on 12/03/2009 6:14:19 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
Matthews is correct, as far as he goes. West Point IS the camp of many of the Mutt’s enemies – just as the White House is currently the camp of one of the cadets’ most loathsome and contemptible adversaries.

As for the venue, where else could Duh Won speak drone aloud to a group of people absolutely prohibited from booing, jeering, gesturing, turning their backs, or walking out?

He can’t even get a captive audience in the Congressional Black Caucus.

22 posted on 12/03/2009 6:14:35 PM PST by Tenniel2 (Much intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep -- Saul Bellow)
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To: jazusamo

That makes my day. :-)


23 posted on 12/03/2009 6:20:28 PM PST by bigheadfred (Be who you are and say what you feel: Those who mind don't matter.Those who matter don't mind.)
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To: jazusamo

What I don’t understand is how any one can sit and watch Matthews. I can’t even stand to look at him without wanting to slap the dog doo out of him.


24 posted on 12/03/2009 6:24:00 PM PST by bigheadfred (Be who you are and say what you feel: Those who mind don't matter.Those who matter don't mind.)
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To: TaxPayer2000
[ SNIP - pic of Cadet reading anti Bin Laden book ]

I am sure he will get called in and chewed for this as directed by the W.H.
25 posted on 12/03/2009 6:26:20 PM PST by CORedneck
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To: jazusamo

He certainly treated them like the enemy, making them wait in the auditorium for 4 hours before gracing them with his presence, due to “security” concerns.

Is there a single group of that many Americans of the same age amidst whom he would be safer?


26 posted on 12/03/2009 6:38:02 PM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: bigheadfred

I can’t begin to remember how many years it’s been since I refused to watch his show. Once in a while I’ll watch a short video here when he’s inserted foot in mouth but that’s it. He’s a dyed in the wool libtard idiot, maybe when Comcast gets partial control they’ll fire him, I can dream.


27 posted on 12/03/2009 6:39:11 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: bigheadfred; jazusamo
Fred and Jaz, y'all stop picking on little Chrissy, she's just trying to protect her leg-tingling dreamboat...


28 posted on 12/03/2009 6:40:26 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: ccmay

Good point, I can’t think of one.

The wife told me yesterday she heard a caller on Rush’s show that had a son that was there say they were ordered to applaud, I known their hearts weren’t in it.


29 posted on 12/03/2009 6:43:17 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: smoothsailing; bigheadfred

LOL!

That’s a great graphic, it really depicts Matthews’ love for the 0ne.


30 posted on 12/03/2009 6:46:21 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: smoothsailing; jazusamo
stop picking on little Chrissy

Can't make me!!! :-))

Hey, with arms like those, I thought for a sec there it was Michelle.

31 posted on 12/03/2009 6:48:03 PM PST by bigheadfred (Be who you are and say what you feel: Those who mind don't matter.Those who matter don't mind.)
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To: jazusamo
I sure wish some Middies had hacked into Obama's teleprompter and typed in, "Go Navy, Beat Army.

That would have been the ultimate prank the week before the Army Navy Game.

32 posted on 12/03/2009 6:50:19 PM PST by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: ccmay; All

Zero kept our cadets waiting 4 hrs???? Really?

I knew he hates their guts - but that goes beyond the pale.

I work with an Obama koolaid drinker who saw the speech and said it was “wonderful” - “perfect”.

This person asked me if I watched it.

I said of course not.

Of course I did not watch this imposter in chief as he used the Cadets for a photo op. Did not want to become nauseated that night.

But I did follow the speech here on FR and read what others said about it and saw a few video clips of it. I reorted that I saw the faces of the cadets and they were not enthusiastic, they were bored, they were indifferent, and they gave only mild applause at certain points of the speech.,,,but they received Zero much less enthusiastically than they received former President Bush when he spoke there.

She said - did you not see them rush up to Obama with hands outstretched after it was over?

Can anybody tell me if that happened? I didn’t read of it here on the live thread.


33 posted on 12/03/2009 6:50:46 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt (Obama's Deathcare ---- many will suffer and/or die unnecessarily.)
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To: highlander_UW

Quite right. The enemy camp, or the enemy, went to West Point.


34 posted on 12/03/2009 6:53:24 PM PST by AFreeBird (Going Rogue in 2012)
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To: mware

LOL! That would have been a scream and would have woken some cadets up. :)


35 posted on 12/03/2009 6:55:16 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
So, when did our brave military cadets become "the enemy camp"?

Openly and officially, November 4 , 2008 with the election of obama. Unofficially in the 1960's.

36 posted on 12/03/2009 6:56:19 PM PST by sport
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To: TaxPayer2000

Judging by his decorations, including CIB, this cadet is an Army combat veteran. He could definitely teach Zero a thing or two.


37 posted on 12/03/2009 7:03:19 PM PST by 12Gauge687 (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice)
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To: jazusamo

Matthews grew up in a generation that hoped that the USSR would emerge as the world’s leading power.


38 posted on 12/03/2009 7:12:05 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: ryan71
They hate them because they are not capable of doing what they do. They hate Sara for the same reason. They are God less, miserable souls,

They are also terrified of Us.

They know if the sh!t hits the fan, they won't eat after initial supplies are gone,

There will be almost no one to protect them, Their own will beat them, steal what they have, take their most prized possessions Al Gore will not let them on His compound

39 posted on 12/03/2009 7:14:34 PM PST by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: jazusamo

It is not only the military that is the enemy of the Left.

Christianity
The Bible
Freedom
Accomplishment
Success
The Boy Scouts

Leftist are smarter than everybody else and have a pathological drive to control everything. They need to guide everything and everyone to enlightenment.

What drives them mad, out of control crazy, is anything they can’t shape and mold. You know, to make it “better”, more equal..etc.


40 posted on 12/03/2009 7:35:07 PM PST by 240B (he is doing everything he said he would'nt and not doing what he said he would)
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To: bigheadfred; jazusamo

Matthews Apologizes for West Point 'Enemy Camp' Slur, Then Interviews Marine-Slandering Murtha

By Geoffrey Dickens

December 2, 2009 - 18:12 ET

Talk about taking one step forward and two steps back. Chris Matthews, on Wednesday's Hardball, opened the show by offering an apology to members of the military and their families for his infamous West Point is the "enemy camp," quote made during coverage of Obama's Afghanistan speech, ...., but immediately after that went to an interview with John Murtha, who himself got in trouble with servicemen and women for falsely accusing Marines of killing innocent civilians in Iraq.

Matthews opened the show by saying he received a "some very tough calls from parents of cadets and former cadets," for calling West Point an "enemy camp," and offered, "I deeply apologize." But after attempting to repair that bridge, he didn't do himself any favors by turning to Democratic Representative John Murtha to talk Afghanistan war policy. For the record Matthews followed Murtha with Republican Representative Mike Pence, but given the damage done with the "enemy camp" remark perhaps he should have had aired Murtha second, or even better, brought on a Democrat who isn't being sued by a Marine for falsely smearing him of slaughtering innocents.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/geoffrey-dickens/2009/12/02/matthews-apologizes-west-point-enemy-camp-slur-then-interivews-mar

41 posted on 12/03/2009 7:38:14 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Man oh man, you just can’t make this stuff up. Matthews must have some kind of brain disease because this Murtha thing has been going on for years.

I believe Murtha was on a Matthews show about the time he called the Haditha Marines cold blooded killers and they talked about it.

Matthews is definitely aware of Murtha’s slander and has him on anyway after he apologizes for his slander. Sheesh!


42 posted on 12/03/2009 7:54:36 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Chris Matthews slobbers when he talks. Who in their right mind could watch that? He turns my stomach. He is disgusting.

I hope Comcast goes into their buyout with the attitude they are going to straighten out NBC, MSNBC and etc. In other words, I hope they clean house and build a real news network.

If they don’t, they are going to lose a lot of money. People are tired of this crap.


43 posted on 12/03/2009 8:00:18 PM PST by BlessingsofLiberty (Obama, YOU LIE!!)
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To: jazusamo

Here’s a great link for historical source material on Murtha!

http://newsbusters.org/people/political-figures/john-murtha


44 posted on 12/03/2009 8:19:19 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Dang, that is a good source, thanks.


45 posted on 12/03/2009 8:30:58 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: bigheadfred
What I don’t understand is how any one can sit and watch Matthews. I can’t even stand to look at him without wanting to slap the dog doo out of him.

Chrissy is easy to handle. Just mouth the words "Zell Miller", and watch the results thereof. He'll go into a fetal position, babbling even more incoherently, in abject terror, than normal...

the infowarrior

46 posted on 12/03/2009 9:25:32 PM PST by infowarrior
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