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Did Nebraska Get Screwed ? (NCAA Big XII )
December 06 2009 | self

Posted on 12/06/2009 3:35:50 PM PST by Para-Ord.45

Was it me or did the refs give Texas a second chance after Texas QB Colt McCoy ran a play trailing by two points with only six seconds left, rolled out and threw the ball away and out of bounds as the clock ticked down to 0.00 and then the referee`s whistle blew.

Texas coach Mack Brown demanded an extra second to kick a field goal and the officials obliged him. Texas kicked the field goal and won the game.

I only saw the reply once with audio and clearly heard the official`s whistle blow after the clock showed 0.00 on the clock.

Nebraska got screwed.


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To: Para-Ord.45

I think the bigger injustice will be Suh's not getting into the top three or even five Heisman finalists. One columnist writes,

Suh finished with a Big 12 Championship game-record 4½ sacks. He made 12 tackles, including seven for losses. He owned the field, and he made Texas’s drive for the national title seem like a subplot. . . .

Suh made the Big 12 Offensive Player of the Year look like a high school quarterback at times and tossed Longhorns around like so many little kids. He disrupted McCoy on nearly every play and humbled the Texas offensive line. The Blackshirts had nine sacks, 18 tackles for loss and forced a ton of three-and-outs against a team that will be playing for the national championship in January.

51 posted on 12/06/2009 4:32:06 PM PST by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Kid Shelleen
I blame Bush, Texas and Halliburton ; connect the dots.

Not to mention Global Warming...

52 posted on 12/06/2009 4:34:21 PM PST by OrangeHoof ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Bend over suckahs".)
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To: OrangeHoof

Might as well add the evil SUV’s to the list!!:)


53 posted on 12/06/2009 4:36:14 PM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: Para-Ord.45

If anyone wants to claim that Texas’ final three points were bogus, keep in mind that Nebraska’s first three points were also bogus. Texas had Nebraska stopped on fourth down. Both sideline officials ran in at the same spot to spot the ball and it was measured short. Then, somehow, the instant replay ref overruled them and Nebraska was handed a gift first down that led to a FG. So, IMO, Texas won 10-9.


54 posted on 12/06/2009 4:40:56 PM PST by OrangeHoof ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Bend over suckahs".)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

>In football....the clock is stopped when the referee blows a play dead....not at the moment of a dead ball (which basketball does). The ref did not blow the play dead until the clock ran out<

But ....

a. The replay official and his crew shall review every play of a game. He
may stop a game at any time before the ball is next legally put in play
(Exception: Rule 12-3-3-k) whenever he believes that:
1. There is reasonable evidence to believe an error was made in the
initial on-field ruling.
2. The play is reviewable.
3. Any reversal of an on-field ruling, which would result from
indisputable video evidence, would have a direct, competitive impact
on the game.


55 posted on 12/06/2009 4:41:41 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: Para-Ord.45

To put my reply in the most polite term I can muster...

...Bull Poop!


56 posted on 12/06/2009 4:42:56 PM PST by Hazwaste (Some people are like slinkies. Only good for pushing down stairs.)
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To: panzerkamphwageneinz

Mack Brown is in fact as stupid as “less smiles” he just has more fuds to pay off the zebras in charge of the game.

NU beat the eleven from Texas, they lost because of the refs.

Tuck Fexas!


57 posted on 12/06/2009 4:46:10 PM PST by tiger63
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To: northwinds
It was the correct call....now Texas can roll over the tide in the NC game.....Colt can finally win his Heisman...and Shipley the Biletnikoff award...beautiful.

Except

1. BAMA will beat Texas

2. The votes will be cast based on this weekends performances. 184 yds passing and three interceptions won't do it.

58 posted on 12/06/2009 4:46:46 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: Moonman62

BINGO!.....We have a Winner!


59 posted on 12/06/2009 4:49:56 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: tobyhill
Texas got the win fair and square but after that performance it shouldn’t be them playing for the national championship.

As opposed to the performances by Alabama against Tennessee and Auburn?

60 posted on 12/06/2009 4:52:27 PM PST by wolf24
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To: tiger63
Mack Brown is in fact as stupid as “less smiles” he just has more fuds to pay off the zebras in charge of the game. NU beat the eleven from Texas, they lost because of the refs. Tuck Fexas!

Oh boo friggen hoo.

Texas Fight! Beat the HELL out of the red tide!

61 posted on 12/06/2009 4:53:42 PM PST by Hazwaste (Some people are like slinkies. Only good for pushing down stairs.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Nebraska should have played loose prevent coverage and allowed a completion. As long as it wasn’t completed in the end zone, Nebraska would have won.


62 posted on 12/06/2009 4:54:32 PM PST by death2tyrants
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To: ColdWater
2. The votes will be cast based on this weekends performances. 184 yds passing and three interceptions won't do it.

So the Heisman is awarded based on the best performance of December 5, 2009? That's rich.

63 posted on 12/06/2009 4:57:40 PM PST by Hazwaste (Some people are like slinkies. Only good for pushing down stairs.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
OF course, Nebraska probably wouldn’t have needed help at the end if they had just not kicked the ball out of bounds on the kickoff.

Between the kickoff out of bounds and the horse collar tackle penalty, the Texas offense only had to gain 16 yards to get to the 29 yard line from which the ball was snapped on the game winning field goal.

64 posted on 12/06/2009 4:58:12 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: wolf24

Maybe or maybe not but the equation has totally left out the #4 team, TCU. If the BCS polling had any consistencies then Texas should have remained #3 while TCU should have leapfrogged to #2.


65 posted on 12/06/2009 5:00:43 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: davetex

>> That game just about wore me out, and I was in my living room!!

At times last night my heart was pounding so hard I could see my shirt move.

When I was going to UT in the early eighties, it seems like game after game after game was like this: low scoring, good defense but unproductive offense, nail biting right to the last play of the game, even though UT usually pulled it out. But I was younger then and my heart could take it.

I’m either going to have to stop watching UT football, or install a defibrillator next to the teevee.


66 posted on 12/06/2009 5:07:50 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: Hazwaste
So the Heisman is awarded based on the best performance of December 5, 2009? That's rich.

Three (candidates) went in (into the Dec. 5 games), one came out. And it wasn't Tebow or McCoy. I don't like the system but that is what happened.

67 posted on 12/06/2009 5:07:55 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: tobyhill
I sympathize with TCU, Cincy, and Boise St. It is my opinion that each of those three teams is just as deserving at a shot at the outright championship as Alabama and Texas. They defeated every team on their schedule which, in a perfect world, should earn them the right to play for the championship.

The system is f'd up. No question.

To try to make arguments about "leapfrogging" and "consistencies" in terms of the BCS polling is as silly as the system itself.

It's a travesty that Cincy, Boise St., and TCU are not getting a shot at the title and it would be an equal travesty to deny Texas the same opportunity.

Again. The system is broken.

I'd love to see TCU get a shot a UT (and I'm a Texas fan) or Bama. Same goes for Boise St. But to suggest that they are more worthy than Texas or Bama is silly.

68 posted on 12/06/2009 5:07:59 PM PST by wolf24
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To: Hazwaste

I heard today that Alabama has met Texas 8 times in history. Texas 7 wins, one for the Tide. Wow, I didn’t expect that factoid if it was correct.


69 posted on 12/06/2009 5:11:40 PM PST by vetvetdoug (FUBO, a fashion statement for conservatives.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Get rid of the cameras and reviews. They are momentum killers and as it turns out the refs are almost always right.


70 posted on 12/06/2009 5:18:17 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (nothing is normal anymore)
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To: wolf24
The BCS is supposed to rank based on votes and computerized “strength of wins”. Texas was supposed to trounce Nebraska but instead got a questionable win. Texas win certainly should have kept them at #3 but because the way the system is being manipulated, it actually moved them up to #2.
71 posted on 12/06/2009 5:18:35 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: tiger63

Texas won, get over yourself. Neither team played their best effort and both had calls by refs that could go either way and totally change the outcome, but that is almost every game I’ve ever watched.

Your statements show nothing except you hate the University of Texas. That’s your opinion. However, it has a great program for sports, not just football, and scholarship.

Come back and tell me how brilliant you are when you become a NCAA coach and win a national championship.

Longhorn Class of 87
Hook Em Horns!


72 posted on 12/06/2009 5:22:54 PM PST by 1scrappymom (Hook Em Horns!!)
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To: ColdWater

I think you left out the fourth candidate for the Heisman who didn’t play this weekend....Toby Gerhart. According to this ESPN poll its Colt #1 and Gerhart #2 for the Heisman:

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/rank?versionId=15&listId=363#topOfList


73 posted on 12/06/2009 5:26:15 PM PST by northwinds
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To: Para-Ord.45
The whistle blew at Zero.

Damn, Obama was at the game? Doesn't that guy ever not play?
74 posted on 12/06/2009 5:26:55 PM PST by Overtaxed Patriot (Lock and load)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Nebraska screwed itself - an out-of-bounds penalty on the kick (inexcusable) and a personal foul. No way should Nebraska have lost that game the way they did.


75 posted on 12/06/2009 5:28:01 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable, and unambiguous clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: tobyhill

blah blah blah — Alabama had “questionable wins” (your words) over Tenn and Auburn but no one leapfrogged them. And, no one argued that the “system was being manipulated” then.


76 posted on 12/06/2009 5:28:32 PM PST by wolf24
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To: northwinds

Alabama will eat Texas’ lunch. Will not even be close.


77 posted on 12/06/2009 5:28:51 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable, and unambiguous clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: northwinds
I think you left out the fourth candidate for the Heisman who didn’t play this weekend....Toby Gerhart.

I would like to see Toby win but the talk on the street was considering only the three.

78 posted on 12/06/2009 5:29:40 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: tobyhill

>> If the BCS polling had any consistencies then Texas should have remained #3 while TCU should have leapfrogged to #2.

Why, exactly?

Texas played one more game than TCU — and, however ugly it was, they won it.

Only in a logic-free alternative universe should the following happen:

a) Two undefeated teams are ranked #3 and #4, after playing the same number of games
b) #3 plays, and wins, an additional game; #4 does not play, and so has played fewer games than #3
c) #4 leapfrogs #3 because #3 played “ugly” while #4 sat on their butts in front of a teevee watching it.

That just makes no sense!

You could argue that BEFORE the game TCU should have been higher than Texas — I don’t agree but at least that’s a valid argument. Or, you might argue that Cincinnati, who also played and won a game, should should move up because Pitt was ranked higher than Nebraska and Cincinnati’s additional game was “prettier”. That argument is also supportable.

But moving TCU ahead of Texas after Saturday is baseless.


79 posted on 12/06/2009 5:29:51 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Yes it was you. the horrified NCAA leapt at the chance to keep Texas alive for the win. the extra second was put on to preserve the BCS Nebraska was screwed.


80 posted on 12/06/2009 5:30:13 PM PST by montag813
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To: Hazwaste
So the Heisman is awarded based on the best performance of December 5, 2009? That's rich.

Then Suh should pick up the trophy. Actually, he should win it anyway.
81 posted on 12/06/2009 5:30:59 PM PST by Overtaxed Patriot (Lock and load)
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To: Nervous Tick
The rankings all year long are based on “prettier” wins except for the last game. Why should Texas deserve it more than TCU, Boise State or even Cincinnati?
82 posted on 12/06/2009 5:38:44 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: Para-Ord.45

I want to see play offs. The top six with the top rank taking a bye after one game and then play the winner of the second round.

That way the stupid point system is still in play if thats what they want. And it would be very important to be top dog.


83 posted on 12/06/2009 5:39:54 PM PST by crz
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To: tobyhill

You’re not grasping the concept here.


84 posted on 12/06/2009 5:41:10 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Hell yes, Nebraska got hosed! But hey, they’re “Texas”!
Eff t.u.! Roll Tide! Beat the hell outta t.u.!


85 posted on 12/06/2009 5:42:01 PM PST by me1og
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To: tobyhill

That’s why my idea is that in the following regular season, every BCS team has to play two games against other BCS teams. Now it’s not perfect, in that from year-to-year, teams will drop off due to graduation, but in the absence of a playoff, it will provide a way for good teams to play each other.


86 posted on 12/06/2009 5:42:31 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: tobyhill
The rankings all year long are based on “prettier” wins except for the last game. Why should Texas deserve it more than TCU, Boise State or even Cincinnati?

Perhaps because TCU didn't play any good teams?

87 posted on 12/06/2009 5:43:16 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: Nervous Tick
I see exactly the concept here, teams like TCU, Boise State (undefeated for 2 years) or even Cincinnati don't stand a chance with the current system.
88 posted on 12/06/2009 5:43:44 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: DennisR

If the game were played in your mind I’m quite sure Alabama would crush Texas....unfortunately for the tide they’ve got to beat Colt/Shipley and the Texas defense on the field...Texas by at least a touchdown maybe more.


89 posted on 12/06/2009 5:44:15 PM PST by northwinds
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To: Para-Ord.45

The coach didn’t ask for a review on those other calls because those individual seconds don’t matter when there’s 13 minutes left in the game.
I’ve heard every complaint in the book from Nebraska fans. They were complaining because on the pass interference call the full fifteen yards was assessed instead of half the distance. In the NCAA rule book, the full fifteen yards is assessed unless the penalty would advance the ball inside the two. In that case, it’s put at the two. In this case it was put at the four, so correct call. That rule is unique to pass interference in the end zone. In other penalties, it’s half the distance to the goal if the distance to the goal is less than twice the distance of the penalty.
In the case of the ball going out of bounds, the time of the end of the play is a reviewable call. Brown asked for a review, got it, and it showed the ball contacting something other than a referee or player. By rule, it is a dead ball at that time, and if there is time on the clock when there is a review, it is put back on the clock. Whether it’s a tenth of a second or five seconds left. If there’s any time left on the clock another play is run.
Another site was complaining that the referees didn’t call holding on Texas enough. Nebraska lost. That’s what happened.


90 posted on 12/06/2009 5:45:37 PM PST by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: northwinds
and the Texas defense on the field...

Oh. Santa Claus is going to bring Texas a defense for Christmas?

91 posted on 12/06/2009 5:45:45 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: tobyhill

Do you think that you are the first one to arrive at that conclusion?

Everyone knows that.

I tried to make the same point to you up-thread. All five undefeated teams deserve a shot. Boise St. should have just as much of a right as Alabama.


92 posted on 12/06/2009 5:48:15 PM PST by wolf24
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To: tobyhill

Texas, Alabama, Florida, and so forth play cupcake teams for filler.

TCU and Boise State play cupcake teams every fricking week as the meat of their schedule.

That’s why you’re always bridesmaids. Get used to it. Or fix it by manning up on the schedule.

BTW, Cincinnati has much more reason to be upset than either TCU or Boise State. They’re a far better team than either TCU or Boise State, and played a tough schedule to boot.


93 posted on 12/06/2009 5:51:16 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: ColdWater

Perhaps but we’ll never know whether they were National Championship material.


94 posted on 12/06/2009 5:51:32 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: northwinds

>> If the game were played in your mind I’m quite sure Alabama would crush Texas....

That’s a great line! I’m gonna borrow it if you don’t mind.


95 posted on 12/06/2009 5:52:42 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: ColdWater

The 8th best defense in the country, playing in the best conference with the best offenses, doesn’t need Santa to deliver anything.


96 posted on 12/06/2009 5:54:47 PM PST by northwinds
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To: ColdWater

The Texas defense is very good. Who do you think Muschamp learned from?


97 posted on 12/06/2009 5:56:41 PM PST by davetex (If it's in stock, we've got it.)
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To: Nervous Tick
After Texas gets romped on by Alabama everyone will be claiming that the BSC should have had a better match-up.
98 posted on 12/06/2009 5:56:56 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: ColdWater; northwinds

>> Santa Claus is going to bring Texas a defense for Christmas?

Alabama and Texas are ranked 2 and 3, respectively, in total defense. Source: http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2009&rpt=IA_teamtotdef&site=org&div=IA&dest=O

So Santa doesn’t see your point.


99 posted on 12/06/2009 5:58:16 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: ColdWater
Perhaps because TCU didn't play any good teams?

You mean, like Utah (the last team to beat--no thrash--Alabama) and BYU (the team that smacked Oklahoma silly to start the season)? And Clemson too?

Stupid comment. You obviously don't know suck about football.

100 posted on 12/06/2009 6:01:17 PM PST by behzinlea
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