Skip to comments.Obama's birth certificate (Uses Snopes to prove "authenticity")
Posted on 12/07/2009 8:26:59 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
A rumor that wont die is the myth that Barack Obamas birth certificate is fake. There are different theories on where Obama was born, if he was not born in Hawaii as he claims. A prevailing belief is that he was born in Kenya, and as a native Kenyan, is not eligible to be President of the United States. Some have also claimed that his full name includes the name Mohammed, adding to speculation that Obama is a secret Muslim.
At this point, mountains of evidence are in and they all point to the fact that Barack Obama is a natural born citizen of the United States. As far back as July 2008, Obama had released a copy of his birth certificate. Obama had to release the birth certificate himself because in Hawaii, birth certificates are not public documents and must be requested by the family. Obamas birth certificate can viewed here.
Almost immediately, the certificate came under attack due to the lack of an embossed seal and signature. The answer to that challenge is that in Hawaii, the seal and signature are on the back of the certificate. The political fact-checkers at Politifact.com emailed the copy of the certificate released by Obama to the Hawaii Department of Health. They were told by a spokesman that the copy was a valid Hawaii birth certificate. The name on the certificate is Barack Hussein Obama II.
According to Snopes.Com, Hawaiian government officials have vouched for the authenticity of Obamas birth certificate twice; once in October 2008 and again in July 2009. Additionally, Snopes also provides the testimony of a Hawaiian school teacher who actually spoke with the obstetrician that delivered the baby Barack.
Politifact also checked Obamas other public domain records. These other records included his marriage certificate from Cook County, Illinois, his drivers license records in Illinois, and his attorney registration and public disciplinary record from Illinois. All show that his name is Barack Hussein Obama. He also has no moving violations and has not been disciplined as an attorney.
If that were not enough, Obamas birth announcements can be seen in both Honolulu newspapers. The Honolulu Advertiser and the Honolulu Star Bulletin both record the birth of Barack Hussein Obama on August 4, 1961. The newspaper announcements can be seen here.
In August 2009, a birth certificate surfaced that purported to show that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. This birth certificate was quickly revealed to be a forgery. Among the tell-tale mistakes on the certificate are the phrase Republic of Kenya, which did not exist at the time, an incorrect age for Obamas father, and the claim that Barack Jr. was born in Mombasa, which was located far from where Obama Sr. lived. In fact, Mombasa was so far from where Obama lived that it was not even part of Kenya at the time; it was actually then a part a part of Zanzibar.
A further claim is that US law at the time specified that if only one parent was a US citizen, to pass citizenship along to the child, that parent must have been a US citizen for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16 [citation]. The claim is that since Obamas mother was 18 at the time of his birth, she does not meet the requirement to pass along citizenship to Barack Jr. According to Snopes, this law applied only to children born to US citizens outside the US. Since the evidence is that Obama was born in Hawaii, this claim is moot.
There is also the claim that Obamas Kenyan grandmother claimed to be present at his birth. Since she had never left Kenya, the implication is that Obama must have been born in Kenya. When the entire transcript is reviewed, it seems that there was confusion over the word present since Mrs. Obama did not speak English and was relying on a translator. Throughout the conversation, she continues to claim that Obama was born in Hawaii.
Finally, there have been two lawsuits regarding Obamas birth certificate and citizenship. Suits filed by Philip Berg and Alan Keyes were dismissed as frivolous and without merit. The Supreme Court declined to hear the case.
While we can easily see that Obamas does not and has never included the name Mohammed, it is not easy to see what is in Obamas heart. Claims that Obama is a closet Muslim are not easily proved nor disproved. What can be shown is that Obama has long been a member of a Christian church, although one of a far left denomination. Obamas family heritage includes many links to Islam so it is understandable that he would have sympathy for Muslims around the world. However, neither being a Muslim nor having sympathy for Muslims would be disqualifying for a president.
After having President Obama lead the United States for almost a year, it is easy to understand why wishful thinking could lead people to grasp at straws for reasons why he could not be president. Nevertheless, the evidence is overwhelming that Barack Hussein Obama II is a natural born citizen of the United States, having been born in a Honolulu hospital. To believe otherwise requires belief in a massive conspiracy that includes Obamas entire family, the Hawaii Department of Health, his birth doctor, and countless others.
It makes more sense to accept the reality of Obamas citizenship and fight him on the issues. His foreign policy favors dictators and terrorists over democracy. His domestic policy is built on unsustainable spending that must surely be followed by economy-killing taxes and inflation. To effectively fight his policies, Obamas opponents must ground themselves in reality and facts, which can easily illustrate that Obamas policies are all wrong for America.
Sources: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/ http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/obamabirth.php http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/kenyacert.asp http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/kenyanphonetranscript.pdf
Carroll County Examiner run by public school graduates?
I’d rather we keep talking about his policies. I’m less worried about the possibility of him being a closet Kenyan than I am about him being an open socialist.
In fact, maybe I’m being paranoid, but it seems to me that these “birth certificate” stories always pop back up whenever there’s some major Obama initiative on the horizon (socialized medicine, greenhouse gases, etc.) that the administration doesn’t want to see opposed. It’s almost as if SOMEONE is trying to distract us during pasasage of these socialist power grabs with the never ending birth certificate controversy.
People ask “why doesn’t he just release it” and I wonder if maybe he doesn’t because it distracts a sizeable chunk of his activist opposition to not do so.
Getting to the truth about Obama’s birth certificate ends all worry about his policies.
He’s making yet another speech tomorrow; perhaps we’re all supposed to get hyper on either side of the issue and not notice what he’s going to say.
On February 27th, speaking to Kristof of The New York Times, Barack Hussein Obama said the Muslim call to prayer is “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”
In an interview with Nicholas Kristof, published in The New York Times, Mr. Obama recited the Muslim call to prayer, the Adhan, “with a first-class [Arabic] accent.” The opening lines of the Adhan (Azaan) is the Shahada:
“Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that Muhammad is his prophet?”
According to Islamic scholars, reciting the Shahada, the Muslim declaration of faith, makes one a Muslim. This simple yet profound statement expresses a Muslim’s complete acceptance of, and total commitment to, the message of Islam. Obama chanted it with pride and finesse.
Snopes is a liberal B.S. website.
I'll have to do some more research but we are aware of the Hawaiian state official that said, to the effect, that she had viewed obama's birth certificate and that it was on file.
A few months ago I read another story.
So the original exists, then it was destroyed and then it wasn't. Why not just show it?
He just declared that CO2 is a pollutant and that means that, legally, the EPA can regulate anything that generates it (which includes human beings). I’m sure he’d rather conservatives be obsessing over his birth certificate than that.
First sentence and no need to go further. Only a copy of COLB has been posted on the internet. Who has seen the now locked up Hawaii BC?
Of course, there ARE fake birth certificates so, in actuality, there also is no myth.
At least they admit their bias in the first sentence by referring to the issue as a myth.
First I heard of this. So what's the obstetrician's name, and is he still alive?
What it boils down to, to me, is the fact that BO spent over a million dollars to avoid having to show the birth certificate. There is something on that BC he doesn't want anyone to see, and I'd love to know what it is.
Name one christian with a muslim name?
Distraction. If he produced the BC, then people might start paying more attention to the fact he's a Marxist.
Better than depending on lossy JPG’s and internet cranks to determine that it’s fake.
Few doubt the possibility of The Anointed One's birth in Hawaii. But that wouldn't make him a "Natural Born Citizen."
Both parents have to be American citizens for that to occur.
The article does show that:
(1) The MSM belong to Obama
(2)Team Obama's multi-million dollar legal machinations and PR campaign have born fruit. Not even Obama claims he is a "Natural Born Citizen." But he does want you to believe a "Native Born Citizen" is just as good for his purposes.
(3)Millions of Americans are now just too goddam stupid to realize that "Native" and "Natural" are two different words and two different kinds of citizen, with only the latter eligible to run for POTUS.
We are living in an era of anti-constitutional coup. Merry Christmas.
I can’t off the top of my head.
I wonder if this Obama kneepadder knows that Obama is Swahili for Osama.