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Jimmy Carter: Abuse of Women? Blame the Catholics and Southern Baptists
LifeSiteNews ^ | 12/11/09 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 12/12/2009 1:43:30 PM PST by wagglebee

MELBOURNE, December 11, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) - In an address to a gathering sponsored by the World Parliament of Religions (PWR) last Friday, former US President Jimmy Carter has once again blamed traditional religion, particularly Southern Baptists and Roman Catholics, for "creating an environment where violations against women are justified."

It is a theme that Carter has successfully used to garner media attention for several years. 

Although in a July column in The Observer Carter admits to "not having training in religion or theology," in his address to the PWR Carter appeals to his authority as someone who has "taught Bible lessons for more than 65 years."

In opposition to the vast majority of authentic scholars and historians, Carter asserted: "It's clear that during the early Christian era women served as deacons, priests, bishops, apostles, teachers and prophets."  He added: "It wasn't until the 4th century or the 3rd at the earliest that dominant Christian leaders, all men, twisted and distorted Holy Scriptures to perpetuate their ascendant position within the religious hierarchy."

Contrary to the theorizing of Carter, Pope John Paul II taught, "The Lord Jesus chose men to form the college of the twelve apostles, and the apostles did the same when they chose collaborators to succeed them in their ministry."  He added: "the Church recognizes herself to be bound by this choice made by the Lord himself.  For this reason the ordination of women is not possible." (Catechism of the Catholic Church; 1577)

Carter singled out the Southern Baptist Convention and Roman Catholic Church, claiming that they "view that the Almighty considers women to be inferior to men."  However, both Christian faiths hold to the Scriptural truth that God created men and women equal.

Carter suggests that only in permitting women to become priests and pastors could male religious leaders choose to interpret teachings to exalt rather than subjugate women.  "They have, for their own selfish ends, overwhelmingly chosen the latter, subjugation," he said.

"Their continuing choice provides a foundation or justification for much of the pervasive persecution and abuse of women throughout the world," said Carter. Carter goes on to list horrific violations against women such as rape, genital mutilation, abortion of female embryos and spousal battery.

Responding to Carter's nearly identical points in July, John Paul Meenan, Professor of Theology at Our Lady Seat of Wisdom Academy in Barry's Bay, Ontario characterized Carter's points as "ridiculous," noting that there was no evidence of the ordination of women in the early Church. 

Moreover, Meenan stressed that historically Christianity ought to be credited for promoting the dignity of women.  "It is the Church that invariably improved the lot of women in the lands that were converted and Christianized," he said.


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This from the jackass who has gone out of his way to support every oppressive regime in the world.
1 posted on 12/12/2009 1:43:30 PM PST by wagglebee
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To: NYer; Coleus; narses; Salvation; Pyro7480; WKB; tutstar

Ping for your lists.


2 posted on 12/12/2009 1:44:11 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

I guess he truly believes that Islam really is the religion of peace ...


3 posted on 12/12/2009 1:44:50 PM PST by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: wagglebee

Only Catholics and Baptists? Nother other religions?

I really can’t list what I want to say!


4 posted on 12/12/2009 1:45:41 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: wagglebee
Jimmy's friends in Iran - the regime has him to thank.


5 posted on 12/12/2009 1:45:49 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: wagglebee

Get off the stage you crazy old man.


6 posted on 12/12/2009 1:46:07 PM PST by texmexis best
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To: wagglebee
Not to mention his support of Islam which is as misogynistic as any religion can get.
7 posted on 12/12/2009 1:46:47 PM PST by hometoroost (Obama clubs Navy SEALs)
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To: wagglebee; Alex Murphy; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD
Southern Baptists and Roman Catholics

Wow!

Bashing Rome and the SBC in the same breath!

8 posted on 12/12/2009 1:47:03 PM PST by Gamecock
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To: wagglebee
Yea... because Muslims treat their property women soooooo well
9 posted on 12/12/2009 1:47:32 PM PST by sten
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To: wagglebee

So it’s the Catholic’s and Baptist’s fault that Islam stones their women for riding in a car with a man who is not her husband?


10 posted on 12/12/2009 1:50:05 PM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system. I am Jim Thompson.)
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To: wagglebee

Catholics and Baptists don’t “castrate”, stone, “honor kill”, or deny women entry into “heaven”. We don’t force women to wear rags on their heads 24-7.

P!ss on Carter.


11 posted on 12/12/2009 1:51:25 PM PST by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Can't get rid of me Jim! Well, you can but you've put up with me so far.)
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To: wagglebee

Jimmi the well-paid for Dhimmi.


12 posted on 12/12/2009 1:51:30 PM PST by Blennos (High Point, NC)
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To: Gamecock

I was going to make a similar comment. I suppose there are far worse things than being included with the SBC. I’d rather be included with them then those pillars of Carteranity: ECUSA, PCUSA, ELCA, UCC, and the United Methodist Church.


13 posted on 12/12/2009 1:52:16 PM PST by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: wagglebee
Can’t anyone in his family see that he needs a 72 hour assessment for dementia/Alzheimers or some other mental illness?
14 posted on 12/12/2009 1:53:26 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin: What will you do?)
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To: Blennos
Jimmi the well-paid for Dhimmi.

Just dummy, not dhimmi.

15 posted on 12/12/2009 1:54:11 PM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: wagglebee
This from the jackass who has gone out of his way to support every oppressive regime in the world.

Before we slam Carter too hard, it can get worse...

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16 posted on 12/12/2009 1:54:22 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: wagglebee

Hey Jimmy, these aren't Southern Baptist or Catholics...

17 posted on 12/12/2009 1:56:18 PM PST by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: wagglebee
abortion of female embryos

Which is worse than the abortion of male "embryos" in what respect? The guy's only objection to the monstrous evil of abortion is that it skews towards destroying females rather than males. Why anyone would listen to what the man has to say about any subject is a mystery that I will never comprehend.

18 posted on 12/12/2009 1:57:00 PM PST by eclecticEel (The Most High rules in the kingdom of men ... and sets over it the basest of men.)
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To: texmexis best
Jimmy, do us a favor and move to a state where euthanasia is state supported and then get a free sample.
19 posted on 12/12/2009 1:57:28 PM PST by dumpthelibs (dumpthelibs)
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To: wagglebee
Carter appeals to his authority as someone who has "taught Bible lessons for more than 65 years."

What the heck has he been teaching all these years?!?!?

20 posted on 12/12/2009 1:57:57 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but will give us the shaft.)
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To: LibFreeOrDie

Go toward the light Jimmy..go to the light.


21 posted on 12/12/2009 1:59:24 PM PST by Armedanddangerous (I think youre so full of inconsolable rage you don't care who you hurt)
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To: wagglebee; StarCMC; AZ .44 MAG; prairiebreeze; Beloved Levinite; TwelveOfTwenty; arderkrag; ...

Baptist ping.
What an idiot!!!!!!!!


22 posted on 12/12/2009 2:00:25 PM PST by WKB (From "Handout" to "Bailout")
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To: wagglebee

Up yours Carter, you piece of sh(t, notice he doesn’t mention another religion I can think of who treat women far worse than we or Baptists do.


23 posted on 12/12/2009 2:00:31 PM PST by Catholic Canadian ( I love Stephen Harper!)
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To: wagglebee
Carter goes on to list horrific violations against women such as rape, genital mutilation, abortion of female embryos and spousal battery.

Hey, Jimmuh! It's not the Catholics and Southern Baptists who are into genital mutilation of women and abortion of female embryos. Try your despot pals in the Mideast and Asia...

24 posted on 12/12/2009 2:02:17 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but will give us the shaft.)
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To: wagglebee

What a sick and evil little man.


25 posted on 12/12/2009 2:03:31 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government -- Thomas Payne)
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To: wagglebee

Makes sense to me. If I were the worst president of the twentieth century, I’d want to revise history at every opportunity.


26 posted on 12/12/2009 2:04:46 PM PST by denydenydeny (The Left sees taxpayers the way Dr Frankenstein saw the local cemetery; raw material for experiments)
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To: wagglebee

Rush was just explaining that Consevatism is an intellectual choice, whereas Liberalism uses no intellect at all. That’s why Jimmy Carter is a Liberal. He doesn’t have the equipment to be a Conservative.


27 posted on 12/12/2009 2:05:32 PM PST by RoadTest (Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. John 3:3)
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To: wagglebee
abortion of female embryos

He stands for gender equity in the production of dead babies.

Shuffle off this mortal coil already.

28 posted on 12/12/2009 2:06:07 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: StAthanasiustheGreat

Yup.


29 posted on 12/12/2009 2:06:31 PM PST by Gamecock
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To: wagglebee

Jimmy Farter


30 posted on 12/12/2009 2:08:18 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Daddy's First Christmas!)
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To: wagglebee
The Observer Carter admits to "not having training in religion or theology,"

Noooo, really?

What an insane dumba$$

31 posted on 12/12/2009 2:10:32 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Oath keepers + The NRA = FReeRepublic (.com baby))
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To: LibFreeOrDie

What the heck has he been teaching all these years?!?!?

Cat’s out of the bag! Catholics and SBC’s are space aliens who suck the blood of babies, and kidnap the unwary to Mars.
I promise, signed Jimmy


32 posted on 12/12/2009 2:11:04 PM PST by WestwardHo (Whom the god would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: wagglebee
Catholics, for "creating an environment where violations against women are justified."

In Catholicism, violations against women are NEVER justified. We have a different job than men, but violations are never justified. Ever.

What an ignorant idiot.

33 posted on 12/12/2009 2:11:08 PM PST by Desdemona (True Christianity requires open hearts and open minds - not blind hatred.)
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To: wagglebee
Someone show me where the Bible teaches the oppression of women. Does anyone (meaning liberals) not understand the concept of team and talents and roles?
34 posted on 12/12/2009 2:11:48 PM PST by svcw (The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves. GW)
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To: wagglebee

To think, that this man was our Commander in Chief during our weakest point in the Cold War.
We were lucky then, I hope we are as lucky now...


35 posted on 12/12/2009 2:13:09 PM PST by Wildbill22
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To: wagglebee

The man must be suffering from dementia and or alzheimers because he’s completely lost it.


36 posted on 12/12/2009 2:17:06 PM PST by GloriaJane (http://www.last.fm/user/GloriaJane)
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To: wagglebee

P!ss be upon him.


37 posted on 12/12/2009 2:18:16 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (You don't have to be ignorant to be a Democrat...but if you are...so what?)
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To: wagglebee
Jimmy's mother was right. Billy is the smart one.
Jimmy Carter is a disgrace.
38 posted on 12/12/2009 2:20:37 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Fiddlstix
Jimmy's mother was right. Billy is the smart one.

LMAO!

39 posted on 12/12/2009 2:21:11 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Apparently Jimmy didn’t notice that, among his fellow speakers at the conference, it wasn’t the Catholic and Baptist women who had to cover their heads:

http://www.parliamentofreligions.org/index.cfm?n=7&sn=41


40 posted on 12/12/2009 2:23:03 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but will give us the shaft.)
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To: WestwardHo

Having this idiot teach in your Sunday school, makes about as much sense as someone sitting in the pew with your family for 20 years under Rev. Wright.
The sad thing is they are both in a race to see who’s the worst President ever! Any bets? Who will be the winner?


41 posted on 12/12/2009 2:23:49 PM PST by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: WKB

42 posted on 12/12/2009 2:26:30 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: wagglebee

But of course Carter’s pals the Muzzies are BIG feminists.

From Opinionater blog in UK:

http://theopinionator.typepad.com/my_weblog/2008/07/the-muslim-rape.html

December 10, 2009
Muslim Pedophile Rape Gang Arrested in Rotherham
The despicable muslim Rape Jihad continues in Britain. Once again young, vulnerable white British girls are plundered like war booty by muslim men. For that is just what this girls are = war booty = as muslims continue their invasion and colonisation of Great Britain bringing with them their contempt for the Western world and it’s indigenous people, culture and customs - particularly women and girls.

The government and social policies of multiculturalism and appeasement have given muslims a sense of entitlement to all things British - from sponging off taxpayer paid benefits to establishing no-go areas for white British to the rampant raping and beating of British women and children. Meanwhile the police and courts continue to coddle muslims whilst the media keeps muslim criminals identities frequently out of the front pages of national newspapers. Search for muslim rape or rape jihad in the blogosphere - and the truth about muslim crime quickly becomes glaringly evident.

I (and many other bloggers) have written extensively about the muslim rape of British women and children - and yes - even men.

A small sampling:

THE MUSLIM RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE OF BRITISH GIRLS

WORSE than a “pack of animals” - 3 Muslim Men Jailed for Rape of 16 yr old British girl

Muslim Millionaire Pedophiles Buying British Little Girls for Sex

MUSLIM MEN RAPE FOUR BRITISH SCHOOLGIRLS AT AMUSEMENT PARK

UK EPIDEMIC - MUSLIM TAXI DRIVERS RAPING BRITISH GIRLS & WOMEN

MUSLIM MAN KIDNAPS 14 YR OLD BRITISH GIRL FOR SEX

THE BEAT GOES ON -—— MUSLIM ATTACKS ON BRITISH WOMEN

JAILED PEDOPHILE CONVERTS TO ISLAM

MUSLIM PEDOPHILES RAPE UK TAXPAYERS

Once again:

Whilst dhimmi judges act the role of apologists for muslim criminals

MUSLIM MEN ARE RAPING OUR WOMEN AND CHILDREN

Whilst dhimmi police play hijab dress-up and coddle muslims

MUSLIM MEN ARE RAPING OUR WOMEN AND CHILDREN

Whilst politicians are cajoling and paying for muslim votes

MUSLIM MEN ARE RAPING OUR WOMEN AND CHILDREN

Whilst the media continues to hide muslim crime/criminals (see below)

MUSLIM MEN ARE RAPING OUR WOMEN AND CHILDREN

Whilst church leaders embrace the muslim invasion and exploitation of the British people

MUSLIM MEN ARE RAPING OUR WOMEN AND CHILDREN

Obviously the feckless British police - as shown by their persistent refusal to publicly condemn & swiftly deal with such actions, are happy to continue to keep quiet about (gangs of) muslim pedophile’s exploitation and rape of young girls - under the guise of “community cohesiveness”.

The media are also consistently to blame as this current story - below - is allowed to remain (hidden) local news rather than national. I addressed this national cover-up of muslim rapes in my blog British women pay high price for multiculturalism.

It is time for this insanity to STOP and for the British people to protect their own as clearly they cannot rely upon the ‘powers that be’ to do so for them.

Article in full:

Eight men charged with sexual offences

Eight men are due in court this morning, charged in connection with a police investigation into alleged serious sexual offences in Rotherham.

The men were all arrested in March this year and had been on police bail until yesterday.

Following consultation with the Crown Prosecution Service, all eight were charged yesterday with a total of 18 sexual offences against four girls aged 13 to 17 years, and remanded in custody.

The men due before Rotherham magistrates this morning are:

Shazad Akbar, aged 22, of Shirecliffe Lane, Shirecliffe, Sheffield, charged with raping a woman aged over 16;

Adil Hussain, 20, of Nelson Street, Rotherham town centre, charged with raping a girl aged 13 to 15;

Saeed Hussain, 28, of Hatherley Road, Eastwood, Rotherham, charged with inciting a girl aged 13 to 15 to engage in sexual activity;

Shaizaad Hussain, 21, of Clough Road, Masborough, Rotherham, charged with two offences of raping a girl aged 13 to 15;

Mohsin Khan, 21, of Haworth Crescent, Moorgate, Rotherham, charged with four offences of raping a girl aged 13 to 15, and one offence of rape of a woman aged over 16;

Zafran Ramzan, 21, of Broom Grove, Broom, Rotherham, charged with three offences of rape of a woman aged over 16, and one offence of raping a girl aged 13 to 15;

Razwan Razaq, 29, of Oxford Street, Clifton, Rotherham, charged with two offences of rape of a girl aged 13 to 15;

Umar Razaq, 23, of Oxford Street, Clifton, Rotherham, charged with raping a woman aged over 16 and engaging in sexual activity with a girl aged 13 to 15.

A ninth man arrested was subsequently released without charge.


43 posted on 12/12/2009 2:27:57 PM PST by PaleoBob
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To: wagglebee

The gift that keeps on giving.

The guy is a buffoon.

He is the perfect example of the stupidity of the left.


44 posted on 12/12/2009 2:28:07 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: Desdemona; narses; NYer; Salvation

Catholicism had two stalwarts there unfortunately. Or at least self-professed Catholics: Fr. Laurence Freeman OSB and of course . . . Sister Joan Chittister OSB.


45 posted on 12/12/2009 2:30:51 PM PST by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: F15Eagle; WKB; All
I kind of like Carter in this picture where he's losing his job.


46 posted on 12/12/2009 2:33:10 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Gamecock

That’s what I thought too.


47 posted on 12/12/2009 2:33:42 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: wagglebee

I’m starting to feel sorry for Jimmy. I suspect he has reached the point where he no longer knows what he is saying.


48 posted on 12/12/2009 2:34:33 PM PST by Enosh (†)
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To: SkyDancer

Let his daughter and grandaughters become the wives of Muzzy limb removers.


49 posted on 12/12/2009 2:36:45 PM PST by liberty or death
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To: Enosh
I suspect he has reached the point where he no longer knows what he is saying.

No, he's been publicly siding with America's enemies since at least January 20, 1977.

50 posted on 12/12/2009 2:37:21 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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