Skip to comments.Climate talks set for failure as China dampens hopes
Posted on 12/17/2009 4:29:04 PM PST by kingattax
BLOCKING tactics by China and the developing world have brought the Copenhagen climate talks to the brink of collapse, leaving more than 140 world leaders facing the prospect of achieving only a weak political statement. The only hope for a deal, according to negotiators, were signs of splits in the powerful negotiating bloc of the G77 and China - with complaints that China, India, Brazil, South Africa and Pakistan were taking too hard a line and jeopardising the entire talks.
An unnamed Chinese official has told Reuters that the Chinese are now suggesting the meeting conclude with only "a short political declaration of some sort" but it was not clear what that declaration would say.
Such an outcome would represent comprehensive failure at the hugely anticipated meeting, attended by 45,000 people.
US President Barack Obama has called for an "operational accord", which most developed nations believe would be a stronger political agreement that would pledge legally binding treaties for all major emitters by a specified date.
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Did ANYONE really think China was going to let this thing go through? LMAO. Ditto India. FUBO. FUAG.
Well it’s not like it’s a fraud or anything — Naw, being a fraud, heck that hardly slowed down the ‘world leaders’.
Take note, it’s not often you see an American president support a provable fraud. It takes a certain type.
Better yet...did you think that 77 morons equipped with 10x that in staff could possibly agree on anything? Not even lunch!
These “delegates” not only all flew to this “conference” they also printed out whole forests worth of worthless stacks of paper to pile up on the tables in their display stations. They are all hideous beyond belief.
BLOCKING tactics by China and the developing world have brought the Copenhagen climate talks to the brink of collapse,
Real Leadership would call for a World Wide Boycott of Chinese Goods.!!!!!
Left with making weak political statements. I so pray.
What, did they make the UN clerk read the text of the proposal on the floor in accordance with parliamentary procedure?
China's over a barrel.
Their economy (despite appearances) is doing poorly: they have re-emerging stock and real-estate bubbles.
They have X trillion in cash, but unfortunately most of those are U.S. dollars.
And they are committed to huge infrastructure outlays, in addition to modernizing their military.
To do all these things takes money.
But China's wealth does not come from producing things: it comes from producing things for the United States.
And we are in a recession : partly cyclical, partly the reaction to a credit-fueled artificial boom (the powers that be decided it was worthwhile to shift all basic production to China and India, make profits off of wage arbitrage, and line their pockets with borrowed dollars).
Not to mention the recession caused by business freezing up in response to the Obama-led legislative intiatives.
The net result is, we're buying MUCH LESS crap from China.
The textbook answer would be for the world economy to reach a new equilibrium point, with a much lower standard of living in the US and a somewhat higher one in China, as China became the low-cost producer for both its people and ours.
But politically, the rulers in China cannot let the happen for the masses, lest they enjoy the taste of economic freedom, and then seek political freedom. And the masses are the very ones whose standard of living must increase for China to develop its economy sustainably.
So they are forced to do a lot of Potemkin village developments, kind of like a Chinese WPA crossed with international bling. But that will only go so far, as their coffers are not being infinitely replenished by the US.
So China doesn't want to push us the *REST* of the way off of the cliff by insisting on crushing environmental regulations; and there is always the chance that some Euroweenie will notice that China's CO2 emissions now are greater than the US (and their unit of GDP per unit of CO2 is five times ours: they rely on less efficient technology, and on more factory-intensive efforts for their GDP).
But in the meantime they're not above pushing hard on a number of unrelated areas to find Obama's weak points, or just to accumulate bargaining chips for later.
But they have other problems, too, such as massive pollution, loss of potable water, and a rapidly aging population without a safety net.
I greatly fear that the dictators there will end up relying on the dictator's old standby to rally support when their utopia is falling apart: military adventurism.
God knows they are racist enough, from posts I have seen: so look out New Zealand, Australia, Japan, Russia, and maybe Canada (fresh water, sparsely populated).
But to do that, they have to develop a tested military force large enough to keep *us* out of the picture, while screwing ours.
COTS technology, civilian sourcing of Pentagon components, espionage (with the carrot of a market of a billion people if you just give us your latest technology for free when we can't steal it), and the election of the traitor Clinton and the Muslim Marxist Mole helping greatly in this regard.
Your mileage may vary: FReeper Jeff Head always is a good source of info on China.
Dude, that was an *outstanding* post.
You should turn that into an article for American Thinker or Cato, and then turn it into a book.